Richard Matt And David Sweat, Convicted Murderers, Escape From New York Prison

[Reba]

Oh spare Me!
But to answer your question. No way would i give up mu blood to the state over prohibition laws.
No way...
I understand most are brain washed too..cool..
Im a different breed i wont do it, the state can go shove it where my signs dont shine..
Meh
Then again i have a heart,so,e even sign im a teddy bear all cute and cuddly.....
-)

RR didn't turn her brother in for prohibition laws. She turned him in because he was harming others, including children, with his activities.

RR has a heart too--for the children, especially those damaged by irresponsible adults. She's proved that with her actions (taking in and raising her boys), not just words.

 

[Reba]

where it say well endowed

Posts #85 (at the linked story) and 86 (in the quotes that come from the link in #85).

 

[hoichi]

RR didn't turn her brother in for prohibition laws. She turned him in because he was harming others, including children, with his activities.

RR has a heart too--for the children, especially those damaged by irresponsible adults. She's proved that with her actions (taking in and raising her boys), not just words.

"For the children"....lol...
Cmon girl, your smarter then that...
How does she know he was selling to chLdren? Really? How much heroin was children buying? You do understand heroin is not a part time drug, ir costs money, its not like a joint of weed. Heroin is a daily demon, or you get sick,
Anyway
"Its for the children" is a great way to push any agenda, any....
Im sure she will clwam he told her he sold to heroin and hypes to wee kids. Five year olds or what ever.....so its true...well believe what you want, your not gona be hyping junk with lunch money....
that signed
Im not denying kids have never used heroin, im stating its a rare occurence, kids also drink and drink allot more, and booze kills way way more people a year then heroin ever does......
Yes it was over prohibition laws, as selling drugs to anyone unless your a doctor or course is prohibited. If it wasnt prohibited then what was he on the lam for? Bad breath?
If it was about harming people, most drug pushers, which are medecal professionals and big pharma would be behind bars, as for "the children" and using drugs..i teach kkds 4 days a week, most are on drugs from docs, i know via medical forms...most of the drugs being pushed to them are amohetimines like ritaline and its analogous and anti depressives....both of which are also sold on the street...it seems that most the north american population are on some drug of some kind..most are from doctors. so on so forth...
As for harming people.. the biggest drug killer is booze, which is legel, if it was about harming peoplee using your logic it should be illagal and prohibited but we tried that didnt we, and the only people who benifeted from prohibition were criminals...a lesson there for those not blind to see..oh and cops and the peison industrial complex....
Prohibition would Be funny if it wasnt such a travesty..
End prohibition...
Oh right...
The drug crartels need to be maintained, the jails need to be packed....i forgot....
Everybody gets paid....
As for the "children"..
A sad song on deaf ears they sign....
Anywah...no way would i turn anyone in let alone my very own blood ovwr prohibtion laws....
No way...
The state with its hypocrasy can kiss my ass...

 

[rockin'robin]

Yes, Hoichi, I turned him in...and I would do it again, even if it was my own parents. You have no idea or iota of all the circumstances involved with my brother....He was desperate...walking into where I worked, (a big company) and how he got passed the security guards I have no idea....Coming in to a professional office....a dirty T-shirt on, dirty shoes, dirty jeans...needle marks all over his arms.....He looked 1/2 dead...

I do believe it was a cry for Help....he had been running and running and the FBI was closing in. He had no $$ and no car.....

My other siblings had called me to let me know that even the FBI were watching their homes also and they lived in another State....we all were on pins and needles.....

And to note also, when I went to see him before the extracted him back to Texas...he said, "Thank You!...I'm so tired of running."....

He got the help he needed....even while incarnated in Huntsville, Texas....he's clean now, as far as I know...but just has an alcohol problem (in Rehab).

Suppose I would have just taken him into my home...and the FBI arrested him there...I would go to jail...lose my job and my home at the time, even my children....

 

[hoichi]

Yes, Hoichi, I turned him in...and I would do it again, even if it was my own parents. You have no idea or iota of all the circumstances involved with my brother....He was desperate...walking into where I worked, (a big company) and how he got passed the security guards I have no idea....Coming in to a professional office....a dirty T-shirt on, dirty shoes, dirty jeans...needle marks all over his arms.....He looked 1/2 dead...
...

Damn girl, you turned him in for bieng diety in a woen t shirt, snd comminf to yiur eork...(shakes head)
I thought it was "for the chikdren"
(Hand iver heart, sad loom on face)
Of course he was desperate he was on the run, did you expect him to show in an armani suit?

I do believe it was a cry for Help....he had been running and running and the FBI was closing in. He had no $$ and no car.....
...

Such is life on the run...

My other siblings had called me to let me know that even the FBI were watching their homes also and they lived in another State....we all were on pins and needles.....
...

Alright...

And to note also, when I went to see him before the extracted him back to Texas...he said, "Thank You!...I'm so tired of running."....
...

Cool

He got the help he needed....even while incarnated in Huntsville, Texas....he's clean now, as far as I know...but just has an alcohol problem (in Rehab).
...

Well thats better....

Suppose I would have just taken him into my home...and the FBI arrested him there...I would go to jail...lose my job and my home at the time, even my children....

Or...
Gave him a glass of water,and wished him well, and asked him to leave....
anyway...

 

[rockin'robin]

Damn girl, you turned him in for bieng diety in a woen t shirt, snd comminf to yiur eork...(shakes head)
I thought it was "for the chikdren"
(Hand iver heart, sad loom on face)
Of course he was desperate he was on the run, did you expect him to show in an armani suit?



Such is life on the run...





Alright...



Cool





Well thats better....





Or...
Gave him a glass of water,and wished him well, and asked him to leave....
anyway...

:roll:...NO!...I didn't turn him in for wearing dirty clothes and needle marks all over his arms!...You really like to twist things, Hoichi!....He was a wanted man....no where to go...and if I would have "just gave him a glass of water, and asked him to leave"...which is ridiculous!....He would have gone back out and committed more crimes for his addiction...maybe even be killed in the process.....
He was a drug dealer (Heroin)...and a user. It was big time....and thankfully he is off the street and not selling to KIDS or people!

 

[Reba]

"For the children"....lol...
Cmon girl, your smarter then that...
How does she know he was selling to chLdren? Really? How much heroin was children buying? You do understand heroin is not a part time drug, ir costs money, its not like a joint of weed. Heroin is a daily demon, or you get sick,
Anyway
"Its for the children" is a great way to push any agenda, any….

RR didn't have an agenda to push.

What does it matter "how much" drugs he was selling to children? Is a certain amount acceptable?

Im sure she will clwam he told her he sold to heroin and hypes to wee kids. Five year olds or what ever.....so its true...well believe what you want, your not gona be hyping junk with lunch money....
that signed
Im not denying kids have never used heroin, im stating its a rare occurence, kids also drink and drink allot more, and booze kills way way more people a year then heroin ever does……

Any drug (including legal ones sold illegally and alcohol) distributed by an adult to a child (not just five-year-olds) is dangerous.

Just because alcohol may kill more people than heroin doesn't make heroin OK.

Yes it was over prohibition laws, as selling drugs to anyone unless your a doctor or course is prohibited. If it wasnt prohibited then what was he on the lam for? Bad breath?
If it was about harming people, most drug pushers, which are medecal professionals and big pharma would be behind bars, as for "the children" and using drugs..i teach kkds 4 days a week, most are on drugs from docs, i know via medical forms...most of the drugs being pushed to them are amohetimines like ritaline and its analogous and anti depressives....both of which are also sold on the street...it seems that most the north american population are on some drug of some kind..most are from doctors. so on so forth…

Just because big pharma and doctors may be pushing drugs doesn't excuse individuals who are also pushing drugs. Go after them all.

As for harming people.. the biggest drug killer is booze, which is legel, if it was about harming peoplee using your logic it should be illagal and prohibited but we tried that didnt we, and the only people who benifeted from prohibition were criminals...a lesson there for those not blind to see..oh and cops and the peison industrial complex....
Prohibition would Be funny if it wasnt such a travesty..
End prohibition…

That could be said of anything that is harmful, and it doesn't make sense. If we follow your reasoning, nothing would be illegal for anyone, including children. We shouldn't prohibit theft, rape, assault, or murder because it's the prohibition that causes the behavior? No.

OK, we no longer have prohibition of alcohol. Have people quit drinking or getting drunk? Have DUI offenses gone down since Prohibition was repealed?

Oh right...
The drug crartels need to be maintained, the jails need to be packed....i forgot....
Everybody gets paid….

That's not the goal. The goal is fewer destroyed lives.

As for the "children"..
A sad song on deaf ears they sign....
Anywah...no way would i turn anyone in let alone my very own blood ovwr prohibtion laws....
No way…

That's your choice. RR made a different choice, and her's is just as valid.

The state with its hypocrasy can kiss my ass...

I don't know why you drag "the state" into every discussion. We were discussing what RR did to protect her family.

 

[hoichi]

:roll:...NO!...I didn't turn him in for wearing dirty clothes and needle marks all over his arms!...You really like to twist things, Hoichi!....He was a wanted man....no where to go...and if I would have "just gave him a glass of water, and asked him to leave"...which is ridiculous!....He wouldkids have gone back out and committed more crimes for his addiction...maybe even be killed in the process.....
He was a drug dealer (Heroin)...and a user. It was big time....and thankfully he is off the street and not selling to KIDS or people!

Kids really.....
Lol...
Alright..
Did he provide those kids with the works too, you know the rigs, so on
Curious whwt his prices to kkds for junk was..oh nevermind..
Its for the children

 

[CrazyPaul]

Kids really.....
Lol...
Alright..
Did he provide those kids with the works too, you know the rigs, so on
Curious whwt his prices to kkds for junk was..oh nevermind..
Its for the children

Some kids do heavy drugs. Where did they get money? I have no idea. Maybe stealing parents' money?

Anyway, I don't see how it's your business. People like RR can do what they think that is a right thing to do. You won't report it to the cops which is your business BUT their businesses are not yours.

 

[hoichi]

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RR didn't have an agenda to push.

.

Sure she did...

What does it matter "how much" drugs he was selling to children? Is a certain amount acceptable?
ly.

You should ask doctors that, but this really isnt about the children. She woukd of turned her own blood in if he just sokd to old laddies.....or what ever..so spare me..pls...

Any drug (including legal ones sold illegally and alcohol) distributed by an adult to a child (not just five-year-olds) is dangerous.
ly.

Again tell that to doctors. but we agree.

Just because alcohol may kill more people than heroin doesn't make heroin OK.ly.

Never said it did, i was pointing out hypocracy in the system. You cant claim its to save lives yet have a bigger killer legal...

Just because big pharma and doctors may be pushing drugs doesn't excuse individuals who are also pushing drugs. Go after them all.

ly.

Good luck with that. Fact is, big pharma and the cartels reap billions and get away scot free..

That could be said of anything that is harmful, and it doesn't make sense. If we follow your reasoning, nothing would be illegal for anyone, including children. We shouldn't prohibit theft, rape, assault, or murder because it's the prohibition that causes the behavior? No.
ly.

Just prohibition reba. cant you see when something is made illegal, then all controls of the quality of that product and who buys or sells that product ceases. Prohibition makes the drugs by creating illaglity more dangerous. As no one knows whats in them and who buys or sells them. Prohibtion makes crininals rich and packs prisons with non violent offendors..the majority doing time are there for non violent crimes....this same thing would occure with any poduct that is piuhed under ground. as it did with booze., this is about prohibition...

OK, we no longer have prohibition of alcohol. Have people quit drinking or getting drunk? Have DUI offenses gone down since Prohibition was repealed?
ly.

People will not stop drinking. Nor will they stop using drugs. Its sily to think they will. But booze has gotten allot more safe. There is a quality control in the product, what goes into it how its made, percentages are listed, the producy itself is far far safer then during prohibition when criminal gangs made it how they saw fit with no controls on the product. Or who it went to

That's not the goal. The goal is fewer destroyed lives.
ly.

How has that been working out for your society...packed peisons, filthy rich cartels, criminal organizations richer and more powerfull then some states....
You have the highest rate of people incarcerated in the world, you dont have enough prisons to keep them....

That's your choice. RR made a different choice, and her's is just as valid.
ly.

Sure.....

I don't know why you drag "the state" into every discussion. We were discussing what RR did to protect her family.

Well gosh reba, i didnt drag the state into this, after all who the hell did she turn her brother in to?
The church?

 

[hoichi]

Some kids do heavy drugs. Where did they get money? I have no idea. Maybe stealing parents' money?

Anyway, I don't see how it's your business. People like RR can do what they think that is a right thing to do. You won't report it to the cops which is your business BUT their businesses are not yours.

Is as much my bussiness to comment on it as it is yours...
Indeed she csn do what she wants...
As you or i csn share our opinions of it...

 

[CrazyPaul]

Is as much my bussiness to comment on it as it is yours...
Indeed she csn do what she wants...
As you or i csn share our opinions of it...

Sure, we can express our opinions but when you said things to RR, you looked her down. What for?

Your own brother...
damn girl...
Thats some cold steal you got there.....

 

[whatdidyousay!]

I wish hoichi would stop hijacking this thread. This about 2 escape convicts not a threat for hoichi to rant on and on. :roll:



Does anyone know what will happen to woman that helped the convicts to escaped , I heard she gave them some of the tools they used to made their escape .

 

[hoichi]

Sure, we can express our opinions but when you said things to RR, you looked her down. What for?

Were just comming from different workds.man, thats all...
Thats the cool thing about alldeaf...
ive looked down on her as much as she does me..but i also enjoy chatting with her...
After All shes the only other person that ive ever chatted with that also has found false teath while walking on a beach...and you know....
Thats preety cool....

 

[hoichi]

I wish hoichi would stop hijacking this thread. This about 2 escape convicts not a threat for hoichi to rant on and on. :roll:



Does anyone know what will happen to woman that helped the convicts to escaped , I heard she gave them some of the tools they used to made their escape .

Its not like ive been dancing with myself here wdys....
But
Anyway..
The screw that helped the cons break out, should be facing a slew of charges, and prob will...your not going to help cons break out and not get charged....

 

[Reba]

. . .
Just prohibition reba. cant you see when something is made illegal, then all controls of the quality of that product and who buys or sells that product ceases. Prohibition makes the drugs by creating illaglity more dangerous. As no one knows whats in them and who buys or sells them. Prohibtion makes crininals rich and packs prisons with non violent offendors..the majority doing time are there for non violent crimes....this same thing would occure with any poduct that is piuhed under ground. as it did with booze., this is about prohibition...

People will not stop drinking. Nor will they stop using drugs. Its sily to think they will. But booze has gotten allot more safe. There is a quality control in the product, what goes into it how its made, percentages are listed, the producy itself is far far safer then during prohibition when criminal gangs made it how they saw fit with no controls on the product. Or who it went to

Alcohol is no longer pushed underground but as you posted, it claims more lives. So, how is that "safer?" I understand there is more quality control of the product but it's use is still abused so how did Prohibition repeal make alcohol use safer? People still die from liver damage and DUI car wrecks and other alcohol-related accidents. Drunks still harm other people by drunken driving, increased aggression (bar fights and domestic violence), and giving birth to fetal alcohol syndrome babies. Alcohol is still illegally sold to minors. The business of alcohol manufacture and sales may be "safer" without Prohibition but it hasn't made things better for all those alcohol-related deaths that you mentioned.

How has that been working out for your society...packed peisons, filthy rich cartels, criminal organizations richer and more powerfull then some states....
You have the highest rate of people incarcerated in the world, you dont have enough prisons to keep them….

So, make all drug use legal and everything will be roses and rainbows. Right--there was no crime in the world until certain drugs became illegal. Right.
:roll:

Yet, you complain about big pharma and doctor abuse of drug pushing on the people--and it's legal!

 

[CrazyPaul]

Were just comming from different workds.man, thats all...
Thats the cool thing about alldeaf...
ive looked down on her as much as she does me..but i also enjoy chatting with her...
After All shes the only other person that ive ever chatted with that also has found false teath while walking on a beach...and you know....
Thats preety cool....

Are you aware that there's one world? That's Earth, our world we live in. Anyway, if I were you, I would back off. RR does this or that, you need to learn how to shut up.

 

[Reba]

I wish hoichi would stop hijacking this thread. This about 2 escape convicts not a threat for hoichi to rant on and on. :roll:

:Oops: I'm sorry, I've participated in that, too. I'll try to refrain from replying to him.

Does anyone know what will happen to woman that helped the convicts to escaped , I heard she gave them some of the tools they used to made their escape .

Last I heard, she provided them with contraband and use of her cell phone but not the tools.

They're still investigating her, so it could change again.

 

[Foxrac]

Alcohol is no longer pushed underground but as you posted, it claims more lives. So, how is that "safer?" I understand there is more quality control of the product but it's use is still abused so how did Prohibition repeal make alcohol use safer? People still die from liver damage and DUI car wrecks and other alcohol-related accidents. Drunks still harm other people by drunken driving, increased aggression (bar fights and domestic violence), and giving birth to fetal alcohol syndrome babies. Alcohol is still illegally sold to minors. The business of alcohol manufacture and sales may be "safer" without Prohibition but it hasn't made things better for all those alcohol-related deaths that you mentioned.


So, make all drug use legal and everything will be roses and rainbows. Right--there was no crime in the world until certain drugs became illegal. Right.
:roll:

Yet, you complain about big pharma and doctor abuse of drug pushing on the people--and it's legal!

Yes, in old time, the penalty for DUI was very lenient and in many cases, police officers let drunk drivers go away like my grandpa did.

My grandpa drank a lot of beer while driving when I was very little boy - I was sit in middle seat on front row with grandpa and grandma.

I believe that BAC is DUI when there was 0.10-0.15 but not anymore.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

:Oops: I'm sorry, I've participated in that, too. I'll try to refrain from replying to him.



Last I heard, she provided them with contraband and use of her cell phone but not the tools.

They're still investigating her, so it could change again.

There was something on the news but the CC did not pick up everything being said. Wow she really had the hot for convict . They been on the run for 7 days now ,
I heard most escaped convicts are found within 24 hours.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/11/us/new-york-prison-break/ She said the convict made "her feel special " . OMG ! She is special alright.