Richard Matt And David Sweat, Convicted Murderers, Escape From New York Prison

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Reba said:
Alcohol is no longer pushed underground but as you posted, it claims more lives. So, how is that "safer?" I understand there is more quality control of the product but it's use is still abused so how did Prohibition repeal make alcohol use safer?
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Its safer for the simple fact you and i can go to a legal establishment look at the product we wish, read the lebal, see what the percentage is, and decide if we want to ingest the product made under legal requirments of control and quality or not.
When booze was prohibited you did not know what you were consuming, the quality was not controled. And thus people were ending up blind or dead, not due to the inherent nature of the chemical but due to lack of quality of the product.

Reba said:
APeople still die from liver damage and DUI car wrecks and other alcohol-related accidents. Drunks still harm other people by drunken driving, increased aggression (bar fights and domestic violence), and giving birth to fetal alcohol syndrome babies. Alcohol is still illegally sold to minors. The business of alcohol manufacture and sales may be "safer" without Prohibition but it hasn't made things better for all those alcohol-related deaths that you mentioned.
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You are correct. But having booze legal has allowed the quality of the product people will buy and consume regardless controlled. Ending prohibition only ended the lack of control of the quality of the product and has taken the control of the markef away from criminals to legal bussinesses which it is assumed will folow and obey the law.
Having a chemical prohibited does nothing to the inherent nature of the chemical. Booze is still addicting wether its prohibited or not. And people will consume it wether its prohibited or not.

Reba said:
So, make all drug use legal and everything will be roses and rainbows. Right--there was no crime in the world until certain drugs became illegal. Right.
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Not at all. Where have i stated such? But ending prohibition will stop some plms. Yes. Why are you arguing prohibition as it stands has actually solved any of the plms you listed?
Is it working reba?


Reba said:
Yet, you complain about big pharma and doctor abuse of drug pushing on the people--and it's legal!
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That is correct. But as every single addict and junky knows for all the faults of big pharma there is a quality control in there product.
A q bag of junk could be god knows what
A percocet is a percocet, everything is known and listed the information and quality is controled..an oxycodone milgram is an oxycodone 20 milgram...
anything pushed underground anything, will suffer the same fate, as booze did,as illagal drugs do now.. its not that hard to grasp.
You can ignore the plms of prohibition all you want. Those plms still remain and cartels and criminal orgs still get filthy rich regardless..
Drugs are harmfull thats why they should be legal, controlled, regulated and taxed for the harm they cause..
As it stands with your prohibition the criminals get the loot, the prisons get bult, and its a drain on society...
Control, regulate, and tax...
Is a better option then simply prohibition for prohibitions sake..
If you think its working...
Cool...
Comming from the other side, your nievete i find rather funny..
 
hoichi said:
. . . If you think its working...
Cool...
Comming from the other side, your nievete i find rather funny..
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I never said it was successful.

No laws are 100% successful.

Sadly, the laws prohibiting murder didn't stop Matt and Sweat. Now we've got two dangerous men on the run who need to be caught.
 
Reba said:
I never said it was successful.

No laws are 100% successful.

Sadly, the laws prohibiting murder didn't stop Matt and Sweat. Now we've got two dangerous men on the run who need to be caught.
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Well as per prohibition...i wont convince you..
And thats cool
But the cracks in its ideology are showing..
As oer these guys..
I hope the. Make it..
They earned it...
 
hoichi said:
Well as per prohibition...i wont convince you..
And thats cool
But the cracks in its ideology are showing..
As oer these guys..
I hope the. Make it..
They earned it...
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They earned the death penalty but they made out by getting life sentences. They need to be caught before anyone else is hurt or killed. I hope that is soon.
 
Reba said:
They earned the death penalty but they made out by getting life sentences. They need to be caught before anyone else is hurt or killed. I hope that is soon.
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Meh.....
They earned there freedom.they broke out...
Next....
 
Reba said:
I never said it was successful.

No laws are 100% successful.

Sadly, the laws prohibiting murder didn't stop Matt and Sweat. Now we've got two dangerous men on the run who need to be caught.
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The plm here is your equating the act of murder which is the killing of one human being. By another to the posession of a plant..say pot, which is prohibited..under prohibition...
This doesnt hold...
Laws wont stop people from murdering, that doesNt mean we should have no product control and quality control on what people ingest..and consume...food, booze or drugs.
 
hoichi said:
Meh.....
They earned there freedom.they broke out...
Next....
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No, they didn't earn their freedom. They broke out of the imprisonment that they deserved.

Besides, is being on the run truly "freedom"?
 
Reba said:
No, they didn't earn their freedom. They broke out of the imprisonment that they deserved.

Besides, is being on the run truly "freedom"?
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Better then being in a cell for those who can do it...but lets agree to disagree, you wont convince me and i wont convince you...
All cool
 
hoichi said:
Better then being in a cell for those who can do it...but lets agree to disagree, you wont convince me and i wont convince you...
All cool
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It's probably better than a cell, especially for outdoorsmen. But I'm more concerned about the people they may run into. Those two guys may be "free" but they've put whole communities on lock-down. Those people don't deserve to be locked up in their homes just because two killers are on the loose.
 
Reba said:
It's probably better than a cell, especially for outdoorsmen. But I'm more concerned about the people they may run into. Those two guys may be "free" but they've put whole communities on lock-down. Those people don't deserve to be locked up in their homes just because two killers are on the loose.
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I read that the convicts could be going dumpster diving for food. If they get to desperate for food they may break into a house . I am very concerned about someone getting hurt or killed by these killers .
 
That woman is going to be charged soon she is going before a judge at anytime now. She been arrested !
 
Reba said:
It's probably better than a cell, especially for outdoorsmen. But I'm more concerned about the people they may run into. Those two guys may be "free" but they've put whole communities on lock-down. Those people don't deserve to be locked up in their homes just because two killers are on the loose.
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Thats the fault of the state...since when can it lock up entife communites?
That seems to be a vioation kf there rights
Regardless if two escaped felons are enjoying the great outdoors...
 
whatdidyousay! said:
That woman is going to be charged soon she is going before a judge at anytime now. She been arrested !
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Of course she will. She should sready hsve been charged if shes going in front of a judge and has already been arrested
 
Haha the pic is funny. Charming..(cough)
To cons trust me that thing after some time would look like the most smokin runway model on a paris catwalk..to lifers shes A mesmerizing godsend....
(Shakes head)
Its how it works..
Thats the why the peeler closest to any joint, and all have peelees close by give or take, as the con flies, for cons done and released is where the last meat, the dancers all skelital, no teeth gods the walking dead will always do,
Literally get poreled...
Off to the peeler breakin it..
Its human nature..
And even girls,at the end all tracked up and down, no teeth, soars all over em...even them need some lovin too..
 
No offence tO any present ladies of course, just stating how the mind works after being in....
 
hoichi said:
Thats the fault of the state...since when can it lock up entife communites?
That seems to be a vioation kf there rights
Regardless if two escaped felons are enjoying the great outdoors...
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The "state" isn't forcing the people into lockdown. It's fear of the escapees that's causing people to lock themselves in.

It's not right that escaped killers can enjoy the outdoors while families are stuck at home.
 
Reba said:
The "state" isn't forcing the people into lockdown. It's fear of the escapees that's causing people to lock themselves in.

It's not right that escaped killers can enjoy the outdoors while families are stuck at home.
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They dont have to be, they choose to.be and thats their choice...
If yoir armed i fail to see whats the worry...
Be smsrt
But dont cower in fesr
look
Someone is helping these guys..its been a week,they need food, water, sheltrr, s chsnge of cloths, some of it is luck, some of it is living of of theft,
Sure
Someone is helping them.
The state has helos, dogs, you nsme it...
Someone is helping thrm
 
hoichi said:
They dont have to be, they choose to.be and thats their choice...
If yoir armed i fail to see whats the worry...
Be smsrt
But dont cower in fesr
look
Someone is helping these guys..its been a week,they need food, water, sheltrr, s chsnge of cloths, some of it is luck, some of it is living of of theft,
Sure
Someone is helping them.
The state has helos, dogs, you nsme it...
Someone is helping thrm
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Hoichi, I think I know where they are. Wonder if the police have checked out your secret room??
 
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