Richard Matt And David Sweat, Convicted Murderers, Escape From New York Prison

You see the problem? You are obsessed with facts, guess what? There are NO concrete facts exists as well. So therefore ANYTHING is possible.

There are two separate sights of these two scumbags, its about 350 miles from prison... But plm is its inconclusive, meaning there is no concrete fact yet.

CrazyPaul said:
I understand that it's easy to enter Canada that way but we don't have facts that they are currently in Canada, do we?
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This is exact my thoughts, most male convicts don't want deal with females because its overrated and distraction. I never believe that these two scumbags would want hitch ride with this woman from tailor shop at all, perhaps planning kill her and her husband afterwards which didn't work out.

whatdidyousay! said:
It looks like there may had another person that helped the convicts escape.
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diehardbiker said:
This is exact my thoughts, most male convicts don't want deal with females because its overrated and distraction. I never believe that these two scumbags would want hitch ride with this woman from tailor shop at all, perhaps planning kill her and her husband afterwards which didn't work out.
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how did you come up with that?
 
diehardbiker said:
Did you watch on CNN Go? They mentioned and showed how easy to across America border to Canada, not by imagary, I have seen enough in real life, I personally did cross canada without see a custom present. And that News reporter at CNN did same thing, walk into canada, look ma! no US custom. CNN news reporter did ask US custom officials on how secure the border it is, the answer was very vague! He didn't say its 100% secured or not even mentioned how secured it is, they simply said they are working on improving them... what does that means? They won't say not secured enough cuz it is what it is reality.

You have to keep in mind the maximum security prison is ONLY 30 miles away from Canada border, and he was not checked for 7 hours meaning he HAD a good head start. If he was discovered less than 2 hours, hes likely going to be recapture.

My suggest use Google map, look along the border between US and Canada near the prisons, using satellite feature, and you will drop your jaw on how many unfenced borders along, plus you will see road gap, about 20 feet apart, no fence, no nothing but grass where you CAN simply walk across. Look in google map, will ya? I have seen plenty, its so much that government can't cover all of them. Thats right, plenty no mountains, no difficult terrain, just grass plains leveled, etc.

Plus you forgot one thing... I live in Upstate NY, and live near US/Canada border, how can I miss that or how can I have imagery when I actually saw them?, even across ed border without seeing US custom officials?

Problem here I am seeing is that its difficult to monitor remote border line, even with security, they can be confused between human and animals especially during night time. There is no way they can accurately monitoring thousands of miles or KM whatever you call it. Secondly, about 10 years ago, theres been mentioned on TV news with captions of course about Mexico border and drug smuggling, US custom officials never said they were 100% secured, they did admitted only 18% were secured, while 72% isn't and mentioned it is very expensive, congress won't expand the budget to cover unsecured border line. They didn't say where due to security but 72% unsecured border, should be very easy to find which I find it true. Officials even mentioned as why this is very difficult to win drug war, and blocking illegal immigrant is next to impossible.
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I see..... river..... a very long river... and big lakes.... so I'm not exactly sure where you're seeing this so-called "just grass plains leveled"
 
diehardbiker said:
This is exact my thoughts, most male convicts don't want deal with females because its overrated and distraction. I never believe that these two scumbags would want hitch ride with this woman from tailor shop at all, perhaps planning kill her and her husband afterwards which didn't work out.
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I said this b/c of this " a correction officer was placed on administrative leave as part of the investigation " . Someone that worked in the jail may had helped beside the woman.
 
Guess your not Google map hard enough. Its not really publicized advertisemet, not heavily advertised for obvious reason, but the truth is, there is too many holes in security along the border, period. There is no such thing as 100% secured shyt. Its nice to think this way, but to better protect ourself, think reality.

Jiro said:
I see..... river..... a very long river... and big lakes.... so I'm not exactly sure where you're seeing this so-called "just grass plains leveled"
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diehardbiker said:
Guess your not Google map hard enough. Its not really publicized advertisemet, not heavily advertised for obvious reason, but the truth is, there is too many holes in security along the border, period.
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so you're saying your google map and my google map are showing different thing?

diehardbiker said:
There is no such thing as 100% secured shyt. Its nice to think this way, but to better protect ourself, think reality.
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who said it is? why is it a huge concern for you? has there been a terrorist coming into America from Canada? exactly what we are protecting ourselves from USA-Canada border?
 
The problem is the amount of time these scumbags had before the escape is ENORMOUS on their favor, they can research, study, planning over years.

Also I found out that Richard Matt was in military, he also escape from jive at age of 13, escaped prison while awaiting on murder trial. He made mistakes from these escapes, do you think they are going to make same stupid mistake or moves? I don't think so.

I am not trying to help him stay escape, what I am saying I can see the skills he has, the opportunity he has, and the amount of window hes out without anyone knowing. He had too much head start to begin with. That's the problem, he may never across Canada border, but still the chances are yes because I was there in that area and its not dense populated, most woods, and too many hidden places and plenty of place to across to Canada without water involved, like I said if you know where it is, you will find it and I CAN guarantee that.
 
Slim? Here's question, how come they were spotted near their native hometown? That's 350 miles away from the prison, tell me how come they can go that far? I know its not official them BUT the point is its how far it goes.

Jiro said:
I see a very slim possibility of them crossing into Canadian border that way unless they have a ride. I also see another slim possibility of them surviving in Canadian area unless they have a person in there aiding and abetting them.
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Jiro said:
I see a very slim possibility of them crossing into Canadian border that way unless they have a ride. I also see another slim possibility of them surviving in Canadian area unless they have a person in there aiding and abetting them.
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Yes, 2 escapees are probably in PA now.
 
diehardbiker said:
Slim? Here's question, how come they were spotted near their native hometown? That's 350 miles away from the prison, tell me how come they can go that far? I know its not official them BUT the point is its how far it goes.
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um.... is it confirmed?
 
No, I am not.. I am only point out "POSSIBLITY" that is all, there is NO concrete evidence at this time. But you see, PA border right, that is about 350 miles away from prison, but the border to canada from Prison is only 30 miles, right?

I think these two guys are playing games with the officials and would do anything to confuse them. Also, I am sure many of ex con around would support his escape and confuse authorities, or those old people wants attention by claiming they saw them, and so on.

Who says its going to be easy recapture? I don't think its going to be easy recapture.

Foxrac said:
Don't derailing my post.

News said 2 escapees are in Southern NY, closer to PA border.
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diehardbiker said:
The problem is the amount of time these scumbags had before the escape is ENORMOUS on their favor, they can research, study, planning over years.

Also I found out that Richard Matt was in military, he also escape from jive at age of 13, escaped prison while awaiting on murder trial. He made mistakes from these escapes, do you think they are going to make same stupid mistake or moves? I don't think so.

I am not trying to help him stay escape, what I am saying I can see the skills he has, the opportunity he has, and the amount of window hes out without anyone knowing. He had too much head start to begin with. That's the problem, he may never across Canada border, but still the chances are yes because I was there in that area and its not dense populated, most woods, and too many hidden places and plenty of place to across to Canada without water involved, like I said if you know where it is, you will find it and I CAN guarantee that.
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FYI -

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/06/09/escaped-convict-a-marine-vet/28731967/
One of the two men responsible for the "Shawshank Redemption"-style prison breakout Saturday sports a sizable eagle, globe and anchor tattoo, but Corps officials say he never served as a Marine.

Images released of Richard Matt, convicted of killing and dismembering his boss, show that he has the Marine-style tattoo on his right shoulder. The eagle, globe and anchor became the Corps' official emblem in 1955, and Matt's tattoo raised questions about whether he was a veteran.

But the Marine Corps has no record of Matt serving, Yvonne Carlock, a spokeswoman with Manpower and Reserve Affairs, told Marine Corps Times.
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and just because somebody has a military training does not mean he's a Rambo. everything requires a logistic support. that's how it works in military.

unless he had a substantial logistic support - meaning... someone aiding and abetting him all the way..... then we're screwed but is it likely? nope.
 
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