Richard Matt And David Sweat, Convicted Murderers, Escape From New York Prison

I am thinking maybe they don't go together after they escaped. They could have split on their own. I wonder if there's border guards at Canada north of Montana or North Dakota.
 
If you do Google map, using satellite photos, you will see borders between Canada and USA with NO fence, no nothing to block. I found plenty near prison, thats why I have hunch they may already have gone into Canada on foot or something else.

CrazyPaul said:
I am thinking maybe they don't go together after they escaped. They could have split on their own. I wonder if there's border guards at Canada north of Montana or North Dakota.
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In case you may not know, there are very few homes that's actually on Canada and USA border at same time exists, even still true for today. I learn this years ago when they ran into issues over taxation.
 
diehardbiker said:
If, you know, its only an IF Matt ever recapture I think he will be sent to ADMax Florence. Its not his first brazen escape...
I don't think it is good idea to have opposite sex employee working at maximum security prison. It is just simply too dangerous and too inviting for gullibility.
I also am kinda surprise they did allow power tools into the cell, I thought they always have tools count, recount and so on and would have triggered lock-down when one gone missing. Sounded like minimum security policy inside the maximum security prison... Something ain't right.
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Indeed, and the warden still has a job? As well as the screws on duty?
seems so..
this was a lax max,
 
diehardbiker said:
If, you know, its only an IF Matt ever recapture I think he will be sent to ADMax Florence. Its not his first brazen escape...
I don't think it is good idea to have opposite sex employee working at maximum security prison. It is just simply too dangerous and too inviting for gullibility.
I also am kinda surprise they did allow power tools into the cell, I thought they always have tools count, recount and so on and would have triggered lock-down when one gone missing. Sounded like minimum security policy inside the maximum security prison... Something ain't right.
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The power tools were not allowed into the cells , the polices were trying to find out how the convicts were able to get the tools into their cells. Yeah , the convicts had more freedom for 'good behavior' and was able to wear street clothes in jail . They had every planned out down to being a role model inmates to be moved to less security part of jail.
 
CrazyPaul said:
I am thinking maybe they don't go together after they escaped. They could have split on their own. I wonder if there's border guards at Canada north of Montana or North Dakota.
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The border is massive, it stretches from the pacific to atlantic. Along it there are at border crossings canadian border service, and mountie have border integrity unit...but
The crossings are just that, there is no way either nation can lock the border down.even when 911 occured. All border crossings were shut...
But.thats not the vast majority if the border.
The vast majority of the border is wild.
 
diehardbiker said:
In case you may not know, there are very few homes that's actually on Canada and USA border at same time exists, even still true for today. I learn this years ago when they ran into issues over taxation.
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Yep
 
hoichi said:
The border is massive, it stretches from the pacific to atlantic. Along it there are at border crossings canadian border service, and mountie have border integrity unit...but
The crossings are just that, there is no way either nation can lock the border down.even when 911 occured. All border crossings were shut...
But.thats not the vast majority if the border.
The vast majority of the border is wild.
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Yeah, over 3,500 miles long border between the states and Canada, no way they can be covered at 100% Too many manpower and equipment is needed and is cost prohibitive. Congress isn't willing to expand the spending.
 
diehardbiker said:
Yeah, over 3,500 miles long border between the states and Canada, no way they can be covered at 100% Too many manpower and equipment is needed and is cost prohibitive. Congress isn't willing to expand the spending.
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Yep.
And its wild and rugged.
The states csnt even.secure the mexican border and thats a desert, good luck trying to secure massive mountains, badlands, lakes, wild forests for thousands of kilomiters. Islands upon islands. So on eo forth....
it just wont happen,
Even with all the fAncy toys
 
diehardbiker said:
If you do Google map, using satellite photos, you will see borders between Canada and USA with NO fence, no nothing to block. I found plenty near prison, thats why I have hunch they may already have gone into Canada on foot or something else.
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the border between Canada and USA in their proximity is all river so... they'll need a boat
 
diehardbiker said:
Yeah, over 3,500 miles long border between the states and Canada, no way they can be covered at 100% Too many manpower and equipment is needed and is cost prohibitive. Congress isn't willing to expand the spending.
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probably 90% of that border is so treacherous that the nature will just take care of illegals.
 
Jiro said:
probably 90% of that border is so treacherous that the nature will just take care of illegals.
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Yeah.
You wouldnt want to be stuck wondering around out there, not prepared, your as good as dead,
You need to be equiped or your a gonner,and the animals will find and feed on youe corpse before ajyonw else ever stumbles across you...
No joke
 
Time-lapsed photos of 'Shawshank' escapees released as manhunt enters its 12th day while police say they have 'no information' the inmates left the area
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3127577/State-police-expand-search-escaped-murderers-NY.html

'Shawshank' prison employee confirms she WAS having sex with inmate before his escape and DID plot to have husband killed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ex-inmate-escape-DID-plot-husband-killed.html

Time-lapse image shows escaped convicts' possible appearance
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/time-lapse-photo-shows-escaped-convicts-possible-appearance
 
The polices have no idea where the convicts are , they very well could be in Mexico by now and dyed their hair another color and got a shaved .
The polices said the trail went cold 2 days ago , maybe they said this hoping the convicts would think they can let their guide down a little and made a mistake.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
The polices have no idea where the convicts are , they very well could be in Mexico by now and dyed their hair another color and got a shaved .

The polices said the trail went cold 2 days ago , maybe they said this hoping the convicts would think they can let their guide down a little and made a mistake.
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<probably won't be seen, but what the heck>
WDYS, the plural for police is police. Please stop adding an 's' at the end.
 
Richard Matt learn to escape at age of 13, where? In deep wooded area in NorthWest PA, very similar as where the prison are. Because of this, Matt have excellent head start. He had escaped few times in the past.

Plus he used to work with Cartel earlier in his life, so good chance that he may be replacing a cartel cause he is ruthless, perfect candidate for cartel positions in the south. My hunch is hes probably already on the freight ship heading the south from Canada.

He only needed maybe just an hour to escape from prison into Canada, the problem is he was left unsupervised for 7 hours, in other word took guard 7 hours before they discover the escape, 7 hours of lost time is significant enough time for anyone to disappear into thin air. The Canada border is only 30 miles north of prison, good half an hour drive after half an hour escape...That is if they know where to across to border without International customs present.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
The polices have no idea where the convicts are , they very well could be in Mexico by now and dyed their hair another color and got a shaved .
The polices said the trail went cold 2 days ago , maybe they said this hoping the convicts would think they can let their guide down a little and made a mistake.
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Hell no, they are not shaving cuz if they did, their faces are easily recognizable. In other words, they would grow their beards and hair to cover their faces so no one suspects them. Right, DHB? You have long beard and hair as well? LOL
 
Since your in California may not seem pictures of them with beard. Yes, they showed what they would look like with beards on, saw that last night. Sorry buddy, you got wrong again this time.

http://mashable.com/2015/06/17/escaped-convicts-10-days-later/

CrazyPaul said:
Hell no, they are not shaving cuz if they did, their faces are easily recognizable. In other words, they would grow their beards and hair to cover their faces so no one suspects them. Right, DHB? You have long beard and hair as well? LOL
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CrazyPaul said:
Hell no, they are not shaving cuz if they did, their faces are easily recognizable. In other words, they would grow their beards and hair to cover their faces so no one suspects them. Right, DHB? You have long beard and hair as well? LOL
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I don't have a beard so I did not think of that . They been gone 12 days now , that is a long time , who know what they done to their self to look difference .
 
'Shawshank' inmate made a painting of prison worker Joyce Mitchell's family before escape as it's revealed 'she had sexual trysts with BOTH fugitives'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...scape-s-revealed-sexual-trysts-fugitives.html

N.Y. inmate manhunt continues, another jail uncovers apparent escape plot
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-yor...s-another-jail-uncovers-apparent-escape-plot/

New York prison break: Escapees added to U.S. Marshals' most wanted list
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/new-york-prison-break/index.html
 
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