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jillio said:
In reference to the other posts that are focused on the almighty dollar. Yours included.
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Since the title of this thread is "Rich gets richer" the focus would be money, yes.
 
jillio said:
Agreed. But the case with Obama would be if he were more focused on charitable causes, he would be accused of ignoring his duty. No matter what he does, it is wrong in some opinions.
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You mean he can't spend one hour per month at his desk (or during one of his vacations) writing checks to charities? He seems to have enough time to campaign all over the country for Democrat candidates. Maybe he could write his checks to charity while flying on Air Force One.
 
Reba said:
You mean he can't spend one hour per month at his desk (or during one of his vacations) writing checks to charities? He seems to have enough time to campaign all over the country for Democrat candidates. Maybe he could write his checks to charity while flying on Air Force One.
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Maybe he could open up a Soup Kitchen on Air Force One! :lol:
 
Reba said:
Examples of that "tradition" please.
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Look at what Bill Clinton and GWB have been doing so far. Yea remember that questionable hand-wipe on Clinton's shirt? :lol:

Reba said:
Do you realize how lame that sounds?

Who said he had to schedule PR appointments for charities? All he has to do is write checks or use automatic electronic withdrawals from his personal account. If he's too busy for that, then his wife can do it.
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yea like it's that simple especially for POTUS :)

any charity program he donates to... there will be a witch hunt.
 
Reba said:
You mean he can't spend one hour per month at his desk (or during one of his vacations) writing checks to charities? He seems to have enough time to campaign all over the country for Democrat candidates. Maybe he could write his checks to charity while flying on Air Force One.
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due to vicious political nature these days... it's just much easier for him to open up his own charity program than to donate to one because somebody will throw a shoe errr..... wrench at it.
 
Jiro said:
due to vicious political nature these days... it's just much easier for him to open up his own charity program than to donate to one because somebody will throw a shoe errr..... wrench at it.
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He could simply continue giving, and increase his giving, to the charities he's been giving to for years. There's no need to set up anything.

Why do you keep making up lame excuses for him?
 
Jiro said:
Look at what Bill Clinton and GWB have been doing so far. Yea remember that questionable hand-wipe on Clinton's shirt? :lol:
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What does that have to do with what Obama gives?


yea like it's that simple especially for POTUS :)
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Yes, it is. If other Presidents could do it, why can't he? Doesn't he know how to write checks? Doesn't Mrs. Obama know how to write checks? Somehow she managed an extravagant trip to France for her family and friends, so I'm sure she could write a few charity checks.

any charity program he donates to... there will be a witch hunt.
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No more than any other politician might experience. Isn't he tough enough to handle that?

You make it seem that he is so delicate that he can't take any criticism, and so simple that he can't manage his check book. Come on, now, really. :roll:
 
If you notice, these figures are from the year that Bush was President, not Obama. So, being POTUS had nothing to do with how much (little) Obama donated.

From kokonut's posted link:

In 2007, the giving broke down on party lines like this:

Cheney: 5.5 %

Bush: 17.6%

McCain: 27 %

Obama: 5.6 %

Clinton 14.7 %

Biden: 0.3 %
 
Reba said:
He could simply continue giving, and increase his giving, to the charities he's been giving to for years. There's no need to set up anything.

Why do you keep making up lame excuses for him?
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why do you keep shaking your finger at him?
 
Reba said:
What does that have to do with what Obama gives?
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point is - Obama will do same thing as them after he's done with White House

Reba said:
Yes, it is. If other Presidents could do it, why can't he? Doesn't he know how to write checks? Doesn't Mrs. Obama know how to write checks? Somehow she managed an extravagant trip to France for her family and friends, so I'm sure she could write a few charity checks.
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other Presidents have donated a lot during their presidency? who?

Reba said:
No more than any other politician might experience. Isn't he tough enough to handle that?

You make it seem that he is so delicate that he can't take any criticism, and so simple that he can't manage his check book. Come on, now, really. :roll:
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it's not Obama... it's the charity programs because they will get the unwarranted attention and they will get vilified by the anti-Obama crazies.
 
Reba said:
If you notice, these figures are from the year that Bush was President, not Obama. So, being POTUS had nothing to do with how much (little) Obama donated.

From kokonut's posted link:

In 2007, the giving broke down on party lines like this:

Cheney: 5.5 %

Bush: 17.6%

McCain: 27 %

Obama: 5.6 %

Clinton 14.7 %

Biden: 0.3 %
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is there any data on Presidents' donations during their presidency?
 
Jiro said:
point is - Obama will do same thing as them after he's done with White House
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I don't know where you get that idea. Did Obama say so? Did other presidents wait until after their terms to give? Did Obama give prior to becoming President?

In other words, one's giving has nothing to do with one's office of President. Either someone is generous by nature or not. It has nothing to do with a political position.


other Presidents have donated a lot during their presidency? who?
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Did you not look at the chart in the prior post?

G.W. Bush, for one.

it's not Obama... it's the charity programs because they will get the unwarranted attention and they will get vilified by the anti-Obama crazies.
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Has that happened to the charities to which he donated in prior years?

No. There is no basis for that argument.
 
Reba said:
I don't know where you get that idea. Did Obama say so? Did other presidents wait until after their terms to give? Did Obama give prior to becoming President?
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were there any former Presidents who have never done so?

Reba said:
In other words, one's giving has nothing to do with one's office of President. Either someone is generous by nature or not. It has nothing to do with a political position.

Did you not look at the chart in the prior post?

G.W. Bush, for one.
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that's it?

Reba said:
Has that happened to the charities to which he donated in prior years?

No. There is no basis for that argument.
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yes. Look at any non-profit organizations that Presidents were involved with prior to being the President (same for presidential candidates).

ACORN, Feminists For Life, United Church of Christ and First Southern Baptist - to name few...

oh btw - non-profit organization especially charity programs can lose its tax-exempt status if their actions are considered as political intervention (source).
 
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