Police: 20 Feared Dead After Florida Nightclub Terror Attack

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Steinhauer said:
Are you familiar with the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

It applies here.

Did you know that in 11 Islamic controlled countries, that homosexuals are put to death?

Do you see anyone attempting to do that in the US?
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yes, those from other countries.
 
Steinhauer said:
Are you familiar with the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

It applies here.

Did you know that in 11 Islamic controlled countries, that homosexuals are put to death?

Do you see anyone attempting to do that in the US?
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Yes, some Americans support death penalty for LGBT people, especially radical groups.

I'm not convinced by GOP over less evil on LGBT people and they opposed all or a lot of legislation or publicity that related to LGBT, also I have been bullied and failed suicide attempt before because y'all say that LGBT aren't normal and they are sin.

That hurt me very much and you don't understand the situation because you aren't bisexual or homosexual.
 
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whatdidyousay! said:
The shooter pledged ISIS allegiance in 911 call before the shooting and made some comment about the Boston bombing ,the police didn't give a lot detail on the 911
call b/c it in the FBI hands now. I heard this on the news
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I am sure media hides a lot of information from the public. Hard to find good reliable sources for news.
 
Foxrac said:
Your welcome, there's not much information with C-SPAN.
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Most journalist don't know how to write good. It always appears to be jibberish to me. Headlines never makes sense and has confusing wordings.

I read international news a lot.
 
Rio said:
Most journalist don't know how to write good. It always appears to be jibberish to me. Headlines never makes sense and has confusing wordings.

I read international news a lot.
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Yes, that why they edited a lot.
 
I like Sesame Street News the best. I stay away from CNN at all costs. :D
 
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Foxrac said:
Yes, some Americans support death penalty for LGBT people, especially radical groups.

I'm not convinced by GOP over less evil on LGBT people and they opposed all or a lot of legislation or publicity that related to LGBT, also I have been bullied and failed suicide attempt before because y'all say that LGBT aren't normal and they are sin.

That hurt me very much and you don't understand the situation because you aren't bisexual or homosexual.
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It seems to me that you are trying to blame the GOP for the shooting in Orlando.

What if a GOPer was bullied online and committed suicide?
 
Steinhauer said:
It seems to me that you are trying to blame the GOP for the shooting in Orlando.

What if a GOPer was bullied online and committed suicide?
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Of course, I'm blame on anti-gay politicians for messing with LGBT people that lasted for many centuries, also GOP has anti-gay stance on party platform too.

It is rare for GOPer to be bullied since most bullying victims are LGBT and people with disabilities nowadays.

That why I'm not going vote them, anyway.
 
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hoichi said:
was this guy mentally ill?

sorry to break it to you, but people cold bloody murder each other every damn day,
and those who do are not mentally ill.
they do it for reasons and motives, like money, revenge, turf, power, politics and indeed and very true
their faith (what ever that may be)..

rational people in control of their senses and faculties who are not mentally ill do kill for their ideology, their government, their state, their prophet, their agenda, to spread terror, so on so forth,

"obviously mentally ill" is shallow way to even try to come to terms with events such as this, and only betrays that your not aware or are refusing to see the danger they pose

perhaps you will next suggest that terrorism its causes and affects, history and reasons should be studied and handled by ,mental health departments, rather then political science departments in academia....

i do admit the study of history would be easier..

"they're all batshit crazy..."

should be well enough to earn a A....
or

maybe we shouldn't..

and instead ask serious questions that demand serious answers...

was this motivated by his faith?
was this motivated by its radical political ideology?

this needs to be seriously addressed

if you have any evidence at all that mickymouse or rogerrabbit told him to...

by all means

make us aware of it


if not
your full of it
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Absolutely correct! But they don't go out with basically a machine gun and mow down ONE HUNDRED AND THREE HUMAN BEINGS! Sane people might murder one or two but they don't go out and try killing hundreds.
 
Reba said:
There's no evidence that the shooter was mentally ill. One can be perfectly sane and still commit evil acts.
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Absolutely, but they usually aren't out shooting a hundred people! Since the shooter is dead they aren't going to be able to prove it one way or another other than witness statements from his ex wife, her family, his family, friends(if he had any) etc.. Even though this guy was on the watch list, he was still able to purchase lethal weapons. Just be prepared for someone going out to try and beat this nut cases record.
 
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Foxrac said:
Of course, I'm blame on anti-gay politicians for messing with LGBT people that lasted for many centuries, also GOP has anti-gay stance on party platform too.

It is rare for GOPer to be bullied since most bullying victims are LGBT and people with disabilities nowadays.

That why I'm not going vote them, anyway.
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So, in your opinion, there are no LGBT disabled republicans?

Really?
 
Steinhauer said:
So, in your opinion, there are no LGBT disabled republicans?

Really?
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They are very rare, it is just like blacks join KKK or Christians join ISIS.

Majority of LGBT people voted DEM due to anti-LGBT stance on GOP party platform so it will not change until politicians and delegates tone down the anti-LGBT stance, also Libertarian Party offer compromise solution by getting government out of LGBT and anti-LGBT people, except for their live in danger that require LEO action.
 
seb said:
Absolutely correct! But they don't go out with basically a machine gun and mow down ONE HUNDRED AND THREE HUMAN BEINGS! Sane people might murder one or two but they don't go out and try killing hundreds.
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so your judging him mentally ill due to scale?

"he mowed down one hundred and three human biengs"

three, he would be just what, a cold blooded killer, or a misunderstood poet down on his luck?

how about those who...
bomb cities? nuke em even? invade countries,
if we are using scale as the measure for mental illness as you are, as thats all you are actually doing.

then the ramifications are endless

has it ever occurred to you, that perhaps those who are adherents to certain ideologies will also kill for them? for political leverege, or media dominance, or simply because like that's what they're ordered to do. for their cause.


how does your mental health model of terrorism actually address terrorism?

i assume we agree in first things here
that this was an act of terrorism.

thus my question.
 
seb said:
Absolutely, but they usually aren't out shooting a hundred people! Since the shooter is dead they aren't going to be able to prove it one way or another. Even though this guy was on the watch list, he was still able to purchase lethal weapons. Just be prepared for someone going out to try and beat this nut cases record.
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so now your stating its the occurrence of the event "usually" that makes him mentally ill.

considering how many mentally ill people we have in society, and since the only reason you state for this guy being mentally ill is the scale of his attack, and that's its unusual, isnt it odd we are not having more mentally ill people do this?

besides that.
we do have
him stating who he is killing for
and
those whom he stated he killed for, actually confirm it and state he did it for them

i'm usually the guy on the defence ...
but really man
given what we have
to claim roger rabbit or micky mouse is just..
well

its more then a stretch..
 
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