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With the dynmatic FMs Phonak recommend to only have FM+M 50/50 for the dynmatic effect to work.

As it raises the speech line in noise, it basically switches between FM+M and FM only by itself even tho my FM program is set to FM+M and will never change.

The new dynmatic FMs work extremely well in noise.

VGuy- What year did you get your FM receiver?

From my understanding and what my Audi has said, only the dynmatic receivers can be programmed. The classic receivers can not be programmed but I'm no expert on that one.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I do get as good sound out of the ComPliot, but I'm still talking with my audi about the db gain and if it needs to be addressed in software.

Also, want to that all and NadiaUP, LoveBlue and Jane especially for the information.

Still more to discuss I'm sure...
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ComPilot works in a different way to the myLink. myLink works on t coil where the ComPilot works on automatic program's.
 
NaidaUP said:
With the dynmatic FMs Phonak recommend to only have FM+M 50/50 for the dynmatic effect to work.

As it raises the speech line in noise, it basically switches between FM+M and FM only by itself even tho my FM program is set to FM+M and will never change.

The new dynmatic FMs work extremely well in noise.

VGuy- What year did you get your FM receiver?

From my understanding and what my Audi has said, only the dynmatic receivers can be programmed. The classic receivers can not be programmed but I'm no expert on that one.
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I have program 4 and 5 set to FM+M and FM receptively. I like the ability to turn off the mike.

I got this reciever on Friday. The paperwork states they have given me an
ML9S audio shoe, here are the features:

ML9i features


  • State-of-the art Dynamic FM receiver
  • Compatible with all Phonak transmitters
  • Automatic or Direct Frequency Synchronization
  • Save to and read information from receiver
  • Revolutionary antenna design
  • Sleep mode saves hearing instrument batteries


Should I be getting this shoe? I assume the S is a later version of the i?
 
Ah ok, so you been given a classic receiver not a dynmatic receiver. The S is actually older version then the i version. If you look on the phonak website, you will see.

It's also not classed as a shoe, it's a integrated receiver.

The features are not what you said as you coped and pasted the i features not the S features.

Here is the link for if.

http://www.phonakpro.com/content/da...Classic_FM/Classic-FM-ML9S-Technical-Data.pdf

I thought you had the Naida hearing aid? The ML9s does not fit the Naida.

I have the ML10i intrgatrs receivers fitted to my Naida UPs.

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This is what Phonak state in their email to me regarding programming FM receivers. (Note the bit in bold, which is why I said your Audi is wrong)

FM systems ideally should be matched to electrical input of the direct audio input connection to microprocessor so that the final acoustic output to the ear is comparative to the output obtained from the hearing instrument microphone to acoustic output. There should not be a difference and under basic tests should not increase gain pushing audio into more compression. A FM program including the users degree of hearing loss should make no difference to FM as its the same microprocessor controlling everything.

In plain english, the FM receivers need to be programmed to match the gain in your HAs.
 
The aid I was given is the Nadia S IX SP. Perhaps that is why they gave me that boot. It is not fully integrated as the boot is detachable.

Now, I am wondering if I have have the correct aid.
 
When did you actually get your FM receiver as if you don't have intrgatrated receiver, you just got the audio shoe the other day which isn't the FM receiver.

I would alway go with the Naida UP not the SP especially if you are profoundly deaf. More powerful aid and bigger battery which means longer battery.
 
I don't see the UP on the site. I see the S on the site.

EDIT: so the difference in the UP is the battery size? I have the smaller battery.
 
Yea the SP is for moderaty severe to severe and the UP is really for severe to profound. The SP will go down to profound level but you really start to max the aid out which means it wont sound as good.

The UP takes a 675 and the SP takes a 13 battery.

Size different between the SP and UP is TINY!

A lot of people who have gone from the SP to the UP say the UP sounds a lot better.
 
OK, update on the receiver, THE PAPERWORK WAS INCORRECT. I have the Phonak ML11i which is a dynamic receiver.

I'm now just a little skeptical about whether they can get the dynamic feature right without the software to implement it. The tech at Phonak seems to think they can.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
OK, update on the receiver, THE PAPERWORK WAS INCORRECT. I have the Phonak ML11i which is a dynamic receiver.

I'm now just a little skeptical about whether they can get the dynamic feature right without the software to implement it. The tech at Phonak seems to think they can.
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The ML11i is also a integrated receiver as well. The SX transmitter will work well with it, no need to update the transmitter as well.

I would push hard for them to get the software. Phonak wouldn't make this FM software if they didn't need to be programmed.
 
NaidaUP said:
With the dynmatic FMs Phonak recommend to only have FM+M 50/50 for the dynmatic effect to work.

As it raises the speech line in noise, it basically switches between FM+M and FM only by itself even tho my FM program is set to FM+M and will never change.

The new dynmatic FMs work extremely well in noise.

VGuy- What year did you get your FM receiver?

From my understanding and what my Audi has said, only the dynmatic receivers can be programmed. The classic receivers can not be programmed but I'm no expert on that one.
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To be clear, this stops me from switching to FM only manually, correct?
 
VacationGuy234 said:
To be clear, this stops me from switching to FM only manually, correct?
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No you can still use FM only but once your receiver is programmed correctly, you will notice that you never need to.

When I'm in high noise, with FM + M, I can't hear ANY background noise as the speech line is raised. I have FM only on my HA but I NEVER need to use it.
 
In my opinion, you don't need the ComPilot if you have a FM system, especially the Smartlink as that is Bluetooth as well.

Phonak state that the ComPilot does what the Smartlink does.
 
NaidaUP said:
In my opinion, you don't need the ComPilot if you have a FM system, especially the Smartlink as that is Bluetooth as well.

Phonak state that the ComPilot does what the Smartlink does.
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The only reason I would like to update to the smartlink+, aside from if it would help me hear, is to get the a2dp ability for using music. With the SX, it only has phone bluetooth. I have to use a hard wire for mp3 use.
 
I don't have any Bluetooth items and have been put off by the fact that everyone that I have read about takes yet another battery! The last thing I want is contending with more batteries.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
The only reason I would like to update to the smartlink+, aside from if it would help me hear, is to get the a2dp ability for using music. With the SX, it only has phone bluetooth. I have to use a hard wire for mp3 use.
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That's interesting. I never knew that. Will try it out on my +.
 
Jane B. said:
I don't have any Bluetooth items and have been put off by the fact that everyone that I have read about takes yet another battery! The last thing I want is contending with more batteries.
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The only way you can stop bluetooth polling is by turning off bluetooth and you can't do that with an aid like you can for a phone.

With the Cross, the audi can turn it off that bluetooth with software so you can save battery. However, I don't know if you can turn off all bluetooth.

Personally, I do think it should be an option.
 
Jane B. said:
I don't have any Bluetooth items and have been put off by the fact that everyone that I have read about takes yet another battery! The last thing I want is contending with more batteries.
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The ComPilot doesn't use batteries - at least not the kind you can replace. You just charge it each night. Of course, that can be a problem when it dies as you'll probably have to fork out another $$$ to get a new one...but then, hopefully by then there'll be a even better solution.

Maybe you meant the BT drains the batteries faster??
 
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