Parants of CI children.

Which statements are true for you?

  • I want my child to hear

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • I was advised to have a CI for my child

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • I want a CI to be included in a full tool box aproach

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • My child knew sign language before CI.

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • My child is only just learning sign language after CI.

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • I don't feel my child needs sign language at all.

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • My child uses cued speach with CI

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • My Child is in AVT for speech therapy

    Votes: 5 22.7%

  • If my child decided to stop using their CI I'd let them.

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • If I had had to fund the CI myself I would have still gone ahead

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • My child is in mainstream school

    Votes: 11 50.0%

  • My child is in deaf school

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • I am happy with results of CI

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • I am disapointed with the results of CI

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Speech is most important for my child.

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Literacy is most important for my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • Communication through any means is most important.

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • I think I made the right decision to implant my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • I regret having implanted my child.

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Other. (please state)

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • Total voters
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shel90 said:
Hear again, u are entitled to your opinion.

For me, I can't say never never cuz we don't know this person. It could be due to being raised in an oral-only environent, it could be due to other factors, or both of them combined.

I don't know and I don't think anyone else does either.
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That's true.

I thought dreama making the connection between having an oral education and being a prostitute was an extreme generalization. It may very well be possible, but is highly unlikely.

If it were true, we'd see alot more deaf and severely HoH woman acting the same way.
 
Well as a feminist/amature psych,I can kind of see how oral only could lead to prosistution. Let me explain. A lot of mainstreamed to the max or oral only girls may have significent social issues. They may not feel emotionally close to someone. So as a result, they become kind of the "Pink Red Sox Hat" type....you know very superfical about sex,(not really connecting it to love making but rather as a pure "hedonistic" act) but liking it b/c it makes them feel closer to someone. That coupled with a really bad background could lead to prosistion. Just a theory. I do know a lot of girls (and guys!) who are superfical abt sex, tend to have a ton of deep-seated emotional issues, like self esteem or not having great interpersonal realtionships.
 
I still don't get it DD. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

By the way, what is an amateur psych?
 
Hear Again said:
That's true.

I thought dreama making the connection between having an oral education and being a prostitute was an extreme generalization. It may very well be possible, but is highly unlikely.

If it were true, we'd see alot more deaf and severely HoH woman acting the same way.
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Well, I was tempted to become a prostitute simply because I was forced to lipread 24/7.


I kid!!! :)
 
Maybe part of the reason I don't understand this is because I grew up with hearing most of my life.

Still, even if I were forced to do things because of my blindness, I don't think I'd resort to prostitution as a way of getting attention from men -- especially in an unsafe manner.

It just doesn't make any sense.
 
Hear Again said:
I still don't get it DD. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

By the way, what is an amateur psych?
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A child growing up without forming healthy interpersonal relationship with peers are more likely go down a path like the girl Dreama mentioned. Humans need to feel connected with others. I guess I can understand because I never was able to fully connect with others growing up except for my best friend who is deaf too. After becoming involving with the Deaf community, I was able to really connect with others instead of just one person.

My 12 year old daughter is now texting her friends and they all say "I love u girl" and so on. I never had that kind of relationship with my peers..just more of on a superficial level because they didn't want to take the time to ensure that I knew what everyone was saying. I was always asking them over and over what everyone was saying cuz I kept missing out on important parts of conversations and that doesn't allow for normal social/peer realtionships.

As a teacher, I saw the same issues with many of the deaf children in mainstreamed programs. Yes, I one or two who were fine but there were 10 or more who were very isolated.
 
By the way, I'm well versed in psychology and psychiatry, but I fail to see the connection between having an oral education (i.e. being a success) and engaging in prostitution.

If Jillio sees this thread, perhaps she can enlighten me because I honestly don't see it. It's not due to the fact that I don't want to see it; it's because I really don't see the relationship between the two.
 
shel,

I couldn't make connections with my sighted peers most of the time yet it did not cause me to become a prostitute. And before anyone mentions the fact that I could hear, remember that I had moderately-severe hearing loss and was totally blind, so I could not rely on lipreading. It also did not help if I said "hello" to someone and was met with silence.
 
That's what I said origonally:

A girl I know at school was paraded as an oral success as she was HOH and orally taught. She later turned to prostitution. I'm not saying ALL oral successes do that but it does happen.
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Where in that quote do I say/emply that all orally taught turn to prostitution?

I meant that an 'oral success' can mean anything from someone who goes to uni to someone who later turns to protitution. Who's only success is their ability to speak.

I'm rather confussed by the way people are reacting. I can't insult orally taught without insulting myself too.
 
dreama,

by mentioning your friend, you implied that being an 'oral success' equates to resorting to prostitution. if you didn't think it was something worth discussing, you wouldn't have tried to make a correlation where there is none.
 
Hear Again said:
shel,

I couldn't make connections with my sighted peers most of the time yet it did not cause me to become a prostitute. And before anyone mentions the fact that I could hear, remember that I had moderately-severe hearing loss and was totally blind, so I could not rely on lipreading. It also did not help if I said "hello" to someone and was met with silence.
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Huh? Nobody is saying u would turn to prostution due to being bline. :confused:

Iam saying that this girl dreama mentione could have taken a destructive path because of all the emotional baggage she endured in her childhood. I did too but I didn't become a prostitute.

I am really a little confused now. Sorry.
 
shel,

dreama was the one who turned the discussion into something that does not make sense. she tried to draw a parallel between someone being an "oral success" and orally educated and resorting to prostitution as a result. my response to that was to say i experienced quite a few hardships in my life yet it did not cause me to follow in the same foosteps as the person dreama spoke of. does that help clarify and explain why i view the exchange of dreama the way i do?
 
Iam using my pager now so I probably missed a few posts or so. Thanks for clarifying, HA.
 
Shel and DD:
I deffinately know what you mean. T had friends but they had no reespect for her. At school T used to do it for free. I did too at one stage until I got badly burnt in the process.
If the only way a person can connect is by going to bed with them I honestly can't see a problem in that. It's sad for them and they might want to take up self defense in case they get hurt. But I wouldn't see it as anything to condem them for.
 
Now prostitutes shouldn't be condemned. I suppose prostitutes shouldn't be arrested either? Hmm. Interesting perspective especially seeing that I was sexually abused myself yet I never resorted to such behavior. Note that I am not referring to prostitution as a whole. I'm specifically talking about the person dreama mentioned in her post. I don't see the connection. Hopefully Jillio will see this thread tomorrow and comment because I'm at a loss as to understanding how this is all interrelated since this person was an oral success.
 
Shel: I'm confused to. I didn't think refering to someone like T who was still considered a success simply because she was deaf and could speak would generate such bad feeling.
 
dreama said:
Shel: I'm confused to. I didn't think refering to someone like T who was still considered a success simply because she was deaf and could speak would generate such bad feeling.
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What world are you in? YOU are the one who said that this person was such a success and yet she turned to prostitution.
 
Depending on how my last post was read, it could be misinterpreted.

As it is, you are the one that specifically said, and I quote, "A girl I know at school was paraded as an oral success as she was HOH and orally taught. She later turned to prostitution." You've drawn a direct correlation between the two.
 
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