Palin to Obama: 'Do your job, secure our border'

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darkdog said:
Thank you. So there we go- she didn't pass it and we don't know if she supported it or not, but either way, it's irrelevant. She thinks the feds should enforce their law and she's saying so now.

By the way, I don't agree with that "pathway to citizenship" stuff for illegal immigrants, but she didn't say anything in that interview that contradicts her message now.
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She COULD have done something about it by nullifying the previous issuance but she didn't. Her non-action is her support on turning a blind eye on illegal immigration in her state.

guess what? It takes 2 to tango. Federal government will handle the border and the state government should handle its domestic matter... like clamping down on employers hiring illegals... and drug dealers. Both are not doing the jobs.
 
Why is this even news? Palin is an author, not an expert on foreign policy.
 
Jiro said:
and a quitter.
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She had "an opportunity" to make more money, and our right wing contingent was proud of her sweet book deal. Maybe she can have a show like Apprentice if she gets elected to another political office.
 
Jiro said:
She COULD have done something about it by nullifying the previous issuance but she didn't. Her non-action is her support on turning a blind eye on illegal immigration in her state.

guess what? It takes 2 to tango. Federal government will handle the border and the state government should handle its domestic matter... like clamping down on employers hiring illegals... and drug dealers. Both are not doing the jobs.
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And how do you suggest they crack down on employers who check all the information the law requires them to check?????

You said 50-60 illegals per employer. Very very few businesses with that size of workforce hire illegals without requiring paperwork. It happens but it is rare.

Most illegals who work without faking there paperwork....work as domestics or day labor.
 
TXgolfer said:
And how do you suggest they crack down on employers who check all the information the law requires them to check?????
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for now - federal audit. if they wanna go extra measure - undercover operation.

TXgolfer said:
You said 50-60 illegals per employer. Very very few businesses with that size of workforce hire illegals without requiring paperwork. It happens but it is rare.
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rare? I think not.

350 are held in immigration raid - New Bedford factory employed illegals, US says
Arizona Employer fires 300 illegals due to Federal Audit?
Owner, managers and restaurant corporations sentenced for hiring illegal aliens in Mississippi

and there are too many more to list here.... but I believe you get the point. I'm targeting at factories, corporations, etc. the big fish. the big bone. the t-bone.

TXgolfer said:
Most illegals who work without faking there paperwork....work as domestics or day labor.
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ok.....
 
Jiro said:
for now - federal audit. if they wanna go extra measure - undercover operation.


rare? I think not.

350 are held in immigration raid - New Bedford factory employed illegals, US says
Arizona Employer fires 300 illegals due to Federal Audit?
Owner, managers and restaurant corporations sentenced for hiring illegal aliens in Mississippi

and there are too many more to list here.... but I believe you get the point. I'm targeting at factories, corporations, etc. the big fish. the big bone. the t-bone.


ok.....
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Compared to the number of companies there are in the US.....very rare. Again not talking about how many companies hire illegals. We are talking about how many of those workers got those jobs without faked paperwork.

I am all for busting employers.....but it won't work. Not without major changes to the law.
 
TXgolfer said:
Compared to the number of companies there are in the US.....very rare. Again not talking about how many companies hire illegals. We are talking about how many of those workers got those jobs without faked paperwork.
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Let's see.... factories and corporations hire dozens, if not hundreds of illegals with fake paperwork (and/or knowingly hire illegals) vs..... the small-time employers hiring a few workers without paperwork...

I think the latter is the culprit of illegal immigration.

TXgolfer said:
I am all for busting employers.....but it won't work. Not without major changes to the law.
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what major changes are you thinking of?
 
Jiro said:
Let's see.... factories and corporations hire dozens, if not hundreds of illegals with fake paperwork (and/or knowingly hire illegals) vs..... the small-time employers hiring a few workers without paperwork...

I think the latter is the culprit of illegal immigration.
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Yup and it's kind of hard to go after those small employers.


Jiro said:
what major changes are you thinking of?
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I'm not. But the law now only requires that employers get two ID's. Most employers do get the two IDs. Hard to go after them when they follow the law unless you can prove either that they aided in getting those IDs or knew that they IDs were fake
 
saywhatkid said:
She had "an opportunity" to make more money, and our right wing contingent was proud of her sweet book deal. Maybe she can have a show like Apprentice if she gets elected to another political office.
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Do we still live in a free market society?

Oh ... wait .... your one of those who believes capitalism is evil and socialism is the answer ....
 
Steinhauer said:
Do we still live in a free market society?

Oh ... wait .... your one of those who believes capitalism is evil and socialism is the answer ....
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free market society? I hope so. The way these capitalists keep abusing and cheating... blame them for increasing federal regulation on our free market society.
 
Jiro said:
free market society? I hope so. The way these capitalists keep abusing and cheating... blame them for increasing federal regulation on our free market society.
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:giggle:

can't argue with that one ...
 
TXgolfer said:
Yup and it's kind of hard to go after those small employers.
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yup. for now - when it comes to priority and limited resource.... those small employers and workers are unimportant. They are nuisance but not a culprit of illegal immigration. It's best to focus on main driver of illegal immigration - the factories and corporations.

Now with this Arizona's new immigration law.... our limited resource and funds are going to be wasted on extremely trivial matters. what a shame.

TXgolfer said:
I'm not. But the law now only requires that employers get two ID's. Most employers do get the two IDs. Hard to go after them when they follow the law unless you can prove either that they aided in getting those IDs or knew that they IDs were fake
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yes I'm aware of that. That's why I said "undercover operation" - the agents posing as illegals. That way - they can find out if employer knowingly hired the illegals or not.

and also - whistle-blower is tough to convince to come forward. oh well.
 
All Arizona has to do in order to nab illegals is set up a sting operation promising to grant amnesty if the illegals come forward and turn themselves in .... this would not be including racial profiling at all.

Sort of like California's sting operation .....
 
Steinhauer said:
All Arizona has to do in order to nab illegals is set up a sting operation promising to grant amnesty if the illegals come forward and turn themselves in .... this would not be including racial profiling at all.

Sort of like California's sting operation .....
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that sounds nice but it is unfortunately illegal.
 
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