Oral school

Is it ok?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 29.7%
  • No

    Votes: 31 48.4%
  • Maybe or sometimes

    Votes: 14 21.9%

  • Total voters
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Surely that must be again ADA or something as its refusing her rights
 
I guess you'll have to choose what's best for her.

Is she learning much in her signing school?
 
If I was mom to Miss Kat and she was so happy I'd keep her in the signing school and get her some outside regular speech therapy and play dates with children to develop her spoken skills.

Your the mom, Keep us updated
 
There was a programm over here and it had been following deaf children for a year. One family was strictly sign language users, the girl had aids but she was starting to use her voice even though her parents didnt use theirs. She stayed in the deaf school and just had play dates with hearing children outside school. One of them was from an oral family but they use sign too, she was a ci child and used both sign and speech and she was in mainstream school and she loved to talk but signed with her deaf friend at school
 
Iv seen her videos! She's a great signer!!

My friends were CI users from 3 years old and they were signers. Maybe you could keep her where she is if shes so happy unless the school wasnt teaching her age appropriate stuff
 
Iv seen her videos! She's a great signer!!

My friends were CI users from 3 years old and they were signers. Maybe you could keep her where she is if shes so happy unless the school wasnt teaching her age appropriate stuff

We think she will probably end up staying where she is next year. We go back and forth.
Socially and academically (for now, the higher grades are not working on grade level, so that is a concern in the future) she will be fine at the bi-bi school.
At the oral school, we don't know about social (it will probably be fine, we've met the kids and they are sweet) and we worry about the academics (because they have a policy of mainstreaming as soon as a child reaches grade level academically, so everyone who is still in the class is by default behind) but she would get good therapy and one-on-one tutoring and there would only be 10 kids in her class.
In the mainstream her education who clearly be on level, she would have an interpreter, speech, and TOD services, but she would probably suffer socially.

It is tough....
 
Yeah but at least at the mainstream school you could make it in her IEP or something to get the staff to teach sign to the children so they can communcate with Miss Kat.
 
Yeah but at least at the mainstream school you could make it in her IEP or something to get the staff to teach sign to the children so they can communcate with Miss Kat.

An IEP cannot provide for her classmates. It can only provide for her. They can bring a terp in for the student on the IEP, but they cannot force staff or other students to learn sign.
 
I'd keep her in the signing school and get her some outside regular speech therapy and play dates with children to develop her spoken skills.
Yes......it's really the quality of speech therapy rather then the quanity of speech therapy. If she's developing speech skills, she'll continue developing them. She won't just stop developing them one day. She may never have speech skills on a par with a hearing kid.....but then again, many oral dhh kids don't have spoken language skills on a par with hearing kids.
I would keep her in the signing school until she's a bit older. She is getting a GOOD education there. There's also the added bonus of social interaction etc.
Wait til Miss Kat is a bit older and can say what kind of academic placement she wants. Continue with the supplemental speech therapy....and I know it's frustrating that the school can't provide good speech therapy......that really does suck.
 
She provided a link to Listen Up, and there were some synopsis of these cases listed on their homepage. However, they all differ from the case she relays to us about her daughter.

Ok, I stand corrected.
 
Hey....is there any way that you could move somewhere that has a really good deaf ed program? That's an option. I know many parents of dhh kids move to try to get their kids a better education or better services.
Seriously............it does sound like you're worrying a little too much.
As long as your daughter's in good quality therapy, she'll progress.
I have to say that I think a lot of the kids who have been paraded around as "oral sucesses" are simply kids who are products of families that really emphasize acheivement. (Note to rick48....I'm not bashing this type of family)
She'll probaly be able to have oral abilty in her toolbox.......but it's just really hard to predict how good that oral abilty will be.
I don't think it will be minimal oral abilty.......but it probaly won't be " fluent native" oral abilty either.
 
put her in an oral placement then give her an 'terp


but that would just mess up everything the school stood for. I mean, they started their school to make kids use verbal communication and nothing else. If they brought a terp, it goes against why the school was started in the first place. It's kinda like expecting christian schools to have atheist teachers to teach against Christianity. I can see why an oral school would tell the parent that they have to mainstream her kids if she wanted a terp at the same time she want her child to use verbal communication. she probably would be happy if the public school did offer a deaf class while being mainstreamed in other classes with a terp.
 
but that would just mess up everything the school stood for. I mean, they started their school to make kids use verbal communication and nothing else. If they brought a terp, it goes against why the school was started in the first place. It's kinda like expecting christian schools to have atheist teachers to teach against Christianity. I can see why an oral school would tell the parent that they have to mainstream her kids if she wanted a terp at the same time she want her child to use verbal communication. she probably would be happy if the public school did offer a deaf class while being mainstreamed in other classes with a terp.


Exactly. And why a Bi-Bi school does not provide AVT. It contradicts their philosophy and their mission.
 
But if she wants her constantly exposed to spoken language and to also have ASL mainstreaming with an interpreter would completely meet her desires.

I am not arguing if it is best for the child, just that it is exactly what the mother has repeatedly asked for. And she would probably get a different speech therapist in that setting who would not use sign.

It is what she has been describing all along.
 
But if she wants her constantly exposed to spoken language and to also have ASL mainstreaming with an interpreter would completely meet her desires.

I am not arguing if it is best for the child, just that it is exactly what the mother has repeatedly asked for. And she would probably get a different speech therapist in that setting who would not use sign.

It is what she has been describing all along.

Bingo. Which is why I have said all along, if that is what she wants, it is her repsonsibility to change the child's placement; not to force a school to change it's philosophy and mission.
 
But if she wants her constantly exposed to spoken language and to also have ASL mainstreaming with an interpreter would completely meet her desires.

I am not arguing if it is best for the child, just that it is exactly what the mother has repeatedly asked for. And she would probably get a different speech therapist in that setting who would not use sign.

It is what she has been describing all along.

I disagree. I want to have my child be able to communicate with her peers, that would be impossible in a mainstream placement.
 
I think maybe or sometimes. It all depends. Each individual is... well .. individual. One size doesn't fit all.
 
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