Oral school

Is it ok?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 29.7%

  • No

    Votes: 31 48.4%

  • Maybe or sometimes

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • Total voters
    64
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faire_jour said:
I disagree. I want to have my child be able to communicate with her peers, that would be impossible in a mainstream placement.
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so does her peers at school sign to each other? if not what's the difference? I've tried to communicate with another deaf with verbal communication including my own sister, it was a pain. We gave each other a favor and went home or do our own things.

if mainstream have a deaf program with deaf students, she will be able to have peers.
 
Lighthouse77 said:
so does her peers at school sign to each other? if not what's the difference? I've tried to communicate with another deaf with verbal communication including my own sister, it was a pain. We gave each other a favor and went home or do our own things.

if mainstream have a deaf program with deaf students, she will be able to have peers.
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Yes. She is in an ASL enviroment. But it is being suggested that she should just be mainstreamed with an interpreter. I think that is a bad idea. I think that every deaf child deserves to be given ASL, and deaf peers, no matter how well they can hear.
 
faire_jour said:
Yes. She is in an ASL enviroment. But it is being suggested that she should just be mainstreamed with an interpreter. I think that is a bad idea. I think that every deaf child deserves to be given ASL, and deaf peers, no matter how well they can hear.
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Don't you have magnet schools at all with deaf programs?

That would be my suggestion.

If you don't maybe you could consider moving to a more metropolitan area.
 
Bottesini said:
Don't you have magnet schools at all with deaf programs?

That would be my suggestion.

If you don't maybe you could consider moving to a more metropolitan area.
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I think magnet schools with public and deaf schools is awesome. I think AZ has that now.
 
Bottesini said:
Don't you have magnet schools at all with deaf programs?

That would be my suggestion.

If you don't maybe you could consider moving to a more metropolitan area.
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I live in the only real city in Utah! 3/4 of the population live in the Salt Lake Valley, so what we have is all there is to have.
 
Faire_jour......again have you had Miss Kat evaluated on her spoken language by a really good professional? Like someone at a University hoispital in Salt Lake City. Maybe that would ease your fears. I can't say it enough. As long as she's getting quality consistant therapy, she'll progress. She's got oral abilty now, right? She's seeing an AVT right? (and were you aware that insurance companies cover AVT b/c it's related to rehabiliatation?)
And why a Bi-Bi school does not provide AVT. It contradicts their philosophy and their mission.
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I dunno. I think a bi-bi school can provide AVT, as long as it's provided in " another skill" context, rather then " spoekn language should be the ONLY goal"
I do think that the speech therapist's skill could be better...........
 
faire_jour said:
I live in the only real city in Utah! 3/4 of the population live in the Salt Lake Valley, so what we have is all there is to have.
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People really do move to different states if their own is deficient in deaf education.
 
deafdyke said:
Faire_jour......again have you had Miss Kat evaluated on her spoken language by a really good professional? Like someone at a University hoispital in Salt Lake City. Maybe that would ease your fears. I can't say it enough. As long as she's getting quality consistant therapy, she'll progress. She's got oral abilty now, right? She's seeing an AVT right? (and were you aware that insurance companies cover AVT b/c it's related to rehabiliatation?)

I dunno. I think a bi-bi school can provide AVT, as long as it's provided in " another skill" context, rather then " spoekn language should be the ONLY goal"
I do think that the speech therapist's skill could be better...........
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I have read in other blogs by hearing parents of deaf CI users that AVT therapists are against the use of ASL so I doubt one would work in a BiBi program. :dunno:
 
Bottesini said:
People really do move to different states if their own is deficient in deaf education.
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That's true but with today's recession that option may not be readily available like before.
 
jillio said:
They sure do. **jillio waving hand** I did. Me, my kid, and a 14 foot U-Haul!
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Yes. My parents too. It was not a coincidence that put me in a neighborhood with a deaf program in the public schools. (although not nearly as good as what is available today)
 
shel90 said:
I have read in other blogs by hearing parents of deaf CI users that AVT therapists are against the use of ASL so I doubt one would work in a BiBi program. :dunno:
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Exactly. The whole philosophy behind AVT is an oppostion to any manual language at all. The hard core AVTers won't even permit a child to lip read, and will cover their mouth or turn their head away to prevent the child reading lips during therapy.
 
deafdyke said:
Faire_jour......again have you had Miss Kat evaluated on her spoken language by a really good professional? Like someone at a University hoispital in Salt Lake City. Maybe that would ease your fears. I can't say it enough. As long as she's getting quality consistant therapy, she'll progress. She's got oral abilty now, right? She's seeing an AVT right? (and were you aware that insurance companies cover AVT b/c it's related to rehabiliatation?)

I dunno. I think a bi-bi school can provide AVT, as long as it's provided in " another skill" context, rather then " spoekn language should be the ONLY goal"
I do think that the speech therapist's skill could be better...........
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Her therapy is done at the University. It is an excellent program. And for the record our AV therapist is a fluent signer (though it is Signed English) and she thinks that therapy should fit the child. When Miss Kat couldn't hear well (and didn't really care) we had ASL signers as therapists but now that she can hear well and is using spoken language better, we are moving toward a "stricter AV" style therapy.

Our insurance will cover therapy at the children's hospital, but my experience with them was very very bad. They didn't know what to do with her and they had very little experience with deaf kids, even less with kids that sign.
 
Bottesini said:
People really do move to different states if their own is deficient in deaf education.
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We are talking about it. It would be a huge change, going from being surrounded by family to moving to the east coast. Looking at Mass. or maybe Maryland School for the Deaf. They are both bi-bi programs that do aural rehab and use spoken language in the classrooms.
 
faire_jour said:
We are talking about it. It would be a huge change, going from being surrounded by family to moving to the east coast. Looking at Mass. or maybe Maryland School for the Deaf. They are both bi-bi programs that do aural rehab and use spoken language in the classrooms.
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I am pretty sure you are going to be a lot happier if you do.
 
faire_jour said:
But will she be?
How much is family worth? She literally lives feet away from her both sets of grandparents and her cousins.
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If she has a happy household and thrives in the school I think it is worth it.
 
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