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don't know if you are being intentionally obtuse, or if you really don't understand. Why does it take a hearing child 7 years to get to the language of a 7 year old? Because they need exposure and time to learn language. But they hear well?!?!? So what! A child who is implanted may also hear well, but they need time to learn the language.
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Um no we do understand. Many of us had severe delays too. But you have said that she understands 90% on a hearing test. Meaning she understands spoken language on the level of a seven year old. Right? She still has a significent expressive language delay.
So she's more like a kid with apraxia or CP (who can BOTH hear well) that inhibits spoken expressive language. She does need to improve her spoken language, but she will advance. I really do think you should look into relocating to a state with a REALLY good Deaf School like Maryland or Kansas School for the Deaf or Oregon (which has a lot of hoh students) At a really good bi bi school, she would get spoken language instruction (beyond survival speech) BUT also be able to concentrate on content and actually learning stuff on par with her intellectucal abilty.
As for your comments about me...that's great, thanks for the input.
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You have admitted you have severe anxiety. A BIG part of the reason why we are anti oral only is not only does it negatively impact the kids, it can and DOES negatively impact the parents with the added extreme stress and anxiety, and the hyperfocus on "therapizing" the kid and getting the kid on par with their spoken language. It's understandable to be anxious
 
faire_jour said:
Yeah, it is ok for Deaf people to wish damage and harm to come to children with implants....yeah.
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I haven't see anything like that... I have seen that it happened the other way around plenty of times. Damages to the deaf kids' self-esteem and education when they take away ASL in school and even told the kids' families not to sign. Even sterilizations in the eugenics movement. Heck, even deaf kids' very life when they get meningitis after the implantation - this is the worst. Don't even get me started on job employment discrimination even if the deaf person can speak well.
 
Buffalo said:
I haven't see anything like that... I have seen that it happened the other way around plenty of times. Damages to the deaf kids' self-esteem and education when they take away ASL in school and even told the kids' families not to sign. Even sterilizations in the eugenics movement. Heck, even deaf kids' very life when they get meningitis after the implantation - this is the worst. Don't even get me started on job employment discrimination even if the deaf person can speak well.
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The damage that hearing people have done to deaf people for decades is tremendous and I think some people here need to take a step back from thinking about themselves and seriously think about how thousands of deaf people have suffered from oppression.
 
shel90 said:
The damage that hearing people have done to deaf people for decades is tremendous and I think some people here need to take a step back from thinking about themselves and seriously think about how thousands of deaf people have suffered from oppression.
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You're exactly right about the part where the hearing people are thinking about themselves!
 
Buffalo said:
You're exactly right about the part where the hearing people are thinking about themselves!
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They didnt have 20 something years of damage done to them because of an view or a belief. :roll:
 
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wrong again dd. A speech discrimation test is NOT a language test. Those are totally different thigs.

as for your half assed assessment of my mental state :roll: ......that's great, thanks for your input.
 
faire_jour said:
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wrong again dd. A speech discrimation test is NOT a language test. Those are totally different thigs.

as for your half assed assessment of my mental state :roll: ......that's great, thanks for your input.
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Are you going to contribute anything further to the board other than "Thanks for you input"

How about the oral schools that were ill-targeted? I would like to see that.
 
posts from hell said:
Are you going to contribute anything further to the board other than "Thanks for you input"

How about the oral schools that were ill-targeted? I would like to see that.
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Maybe she can't prove it. I am starting to think that she craves attention.
 
posts from hell said:
Are you going to contribute anything further to the board other than "Thanks for you input"

How about the oral schools that were ill-targeted? I would like to see that.
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There have been several oral schools that have been protested in front of. I have the names of parents who are more than willing to share how the things people have said to them (including things that have been said to all the parents that post here). I even know of one Deaf adult who has had a death threat made to him as well as a parent whose child has been threatened and they had to file a police report.
 
Faire_jour, you're on ignore so I can't see ALL of your posts; just the ones that are pasted from time to time, and, I must say your last response to Deafdyke prompted me to ask you this...

Have you ever considered getting an assessment for this....

Personality Disorders

You really should. Your posts are becoming angrier and more snide each and every time you post. Also, I have to ask... If you dislike this place so much, why do you stay? The Deaf community is rather small by comparison, and, it would seem that you're expecting Miss Kat to be functional in both worlds, so, why not just leave Alldeaf and go about what you've planned to do? It would seem that you would be much, much happier this way. Am I wrong?

Before you give me the line "I'm here to correct the misinformation people are spewing about CIs", I have to say this.... What the hell does it matter what a FEW people say on a MESSAGE board? If you don't like something, you can do two things. Leave or use ignore. You refuse to do either, and, it makes one wonder if you like all this? If it fulfills some weird fascination of yours or something.

Ah well. You're on ignore, so it doesn't matter. I just had to wonder "out loud", because, you seem really freaking unhappy here. Carry on...
 
faire_jour said:
There have been several oral schools that have been protested in front of. I have the names of parents who are more than willing to share how the things people have said to them (including things that have been said to all the parents that post here). I even know of one Deaf adult who has had a death threat made to him as well as a parent whose child has been threatened and they had to file a police report.
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OK.... Show us. How were the deaf people protesting in front of the oral schools?

You know what - There was a protest in front of a AGBell place... Deafies showed up on corner of a street across from the building just chatting,signing. there were interpreters and all. about 40-50 of them. No posters, no display. All cheerful time.

The police were called. At least 20-30 cops showed up. They were perplexed at the situation. The deafies of course were laughing and explained the situation with the cops.

The icing was this: A 12 year old girl came out of the building wanting to converse with the deaf people.. the president chased her and grabbed her.. pulled her back into the building. It was visibly obvious that the president was feeding the girl "look at these people, they're protesting us, they are angry..."
The cops that stayed around to hang with the deafies all saw this and was like "huh did that just happen"...

So... That is the exact reason i want to see HOW they protested.
One doesn't get a death threat unless one did something stupid.
 
I'm not going to lie. I'd be more than glad to get a poster, tape it on a stick, and protest in front of an oral school.

Sign: "STOP CHILD ABUSE NOW!"

I really would.
 
deafbajagal said:
I'm not going to lie. I'd be more than glad to get a poster, tape it on a stick, and protest in front of an oral school.

Sign: "STOP CHILD ABUSE NOW!"

I really would.
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Can I join you? :D
 
deafbajagal said:
I'm not going to lie. I'd be more than glad to get a poster, tape it on a stick, and protest in front of an oral school.

Sign: "STOP CHILD ABUSE NOW!"

I really would.
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Would you do it barefoot in a snowy environment?
 
No. I will wear snow boots, a cute coat with a beautiful scarf with a cute matching hat. I'll wear make-up, too. I'll be protesting, but I'll be cute and WARM doing it.

And my sign will be BIG.
 
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