Obamacare watch...Supreme Court Decision

CrazyPaul said:
I feel sorry for you since you keep asking "and?" which tells me that you have no common sense.
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I ask again - since it's closing small plants this summer... did they get an approval from Congress/committee to do so?
 
The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
 
rolling7 said:
The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
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I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False
 
Foxrac said:
I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False
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False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.

USPS already has future plans including closing over 3,000 stations and about 250 plants.
 
Foxrac said:
I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False
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Processing plants and branches closing do not require Congress approval.
However, by Constitutional law the USPS must serve each and every legal city.
Only community that are un-incorporated can be served by a post office in an incorporated city. Even a big city like Birmingham could have only one post office for the whole city and still be legally served.
 
CrazyPaul said:
False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.
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Only part true. Because the GAO own many of the older buildings from the original USPS. So this means if the USPS wants to close a particular Distribution plant/branch/etc. they give it back to GAO.
 
CrazyPaul said:
False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.

USPS already has future plans including closing over 3,000 stations and about 250 plants.
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rolling7 said:
Processing plants and branches closing do not require Congress approval.
However, by Constitutional law the USPS must serve each and every legal city.
Only community that are un-incorporated can be served by a post office in an incorporated city. Even a big city like Birmingham could have only one post office for the whole city and still be legally served.
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Oh I see, that's interesting.

Sometime, I noticed post office serve in two cities at same time - Birmingham and Center Point, however it does apply to some portion of neighborhood when delivery the mail.
 
rolling7 said:
Only part true. Because the GAO own many of the older buildings from the original USPS. So this means if the USPS wants to close a particular Distribution plant/branch/etc. they give it back to GAO.
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Yeah, however most old buildings are in downtown.

Anyway Marina del Rey plant near LA was closed several years ago and sold for about $75 millions to Steven Speilberg, a famous movie producer who later changed his mind and sold it to a realtor for approx. $45 millions.
 
rolling7 said:
The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
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that's how I feel about your questions. it doesn't even warrant my answer to whatever you asked.

so you might want to think twice before you slander me.
 
Jiro said:
that's how I feel about your questions. it doesn't even warrant my answer to whatever you asked.

so you might want to think twice before you slander me.
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Prove it.

I've given you proof that AD members post that you have not answered their questions to you.
 
rolling7 said:
Prove it.
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prove what?

and didn't you understand what I just wrote? I said most of your questions are incomprehensible and incoherent. most are also incredibly stupid that doesn't even warrant an answer.

rolling7 said:
I've given you proof that AD members post that you have not answered their questions to you.
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You've proved nothing. I've already answered in Post #320. To continue this farce any further is just asking for another ban.
 
Foxrac said:
Oh I see, that's interesting.

Sometime, I noticed post office serve in two cities at same time - Birmingham and Center Point, however it does apply to some portion of neighborhood when delivery the mail.
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I might not have done a good job but what I'm finding is that Center Point is un-incorporated. What that means is they have no city government that is elected.
 
CrazyPaul said:
False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.

USPS already has future plans including closing over 3,000 stations and about 250 plants.
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:ty:
 
Rolling7, I would like to tell you a little bit about my workplace. It used to have administration offices on both floors (1st and 2nd floors). Right now the first floor is empty except my plant manager's office and the whole second floor is leased to OIG which has its own janitors, etc. Departments of sales, injury, payroll, etc moved from that adm building to other plants. In case you didn't know since you retired, there is no longer a FMLA office locally and USPS HR (HRSSC) in NC handles FMLA cases currently.

Oh, did you know that USPS offers 21,000 postmasters VER with $20k incentive ("buyout") recently?
 
CrazyPaul said:
Rolling7, I would like to tell you a little bit about my workplace. It used to have administration offices on both floors (1st and 2nd floors). Right now the first floor is empty except my plant manager's office and the whole second floor is leased to OIG which has its own janitors, etc. Departments of sales, injury, payroll, etc moved from that adm building to other plants. In case you didn't know since you retired, there is no longer a FMLA office locally and USPS HR (HRSSC) in NC handles FMLA cases currently.

Oh, did you know that USPS offers 21,000 postmasters VER with $20k incentive ("buyout") recently?
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They also offered regular employees a buyout, which are necessary "life-saving" actions brought about from the result of PRC. The employees, at every grade, are not to blame for for the idiocy of the PRC.

I've been dealing with HRSSC in North Carolina for years, first as an clerk and now as a retiree (yes, as a retiree you will deal with HRSSC)
 
TXgolfer said:
But, it's not constitutional if it is not a tax. :)

Also it is going back to court anyway.... The court ruled it is only constitutional as a tax. Thing is, taxes can only be assessed through tax bills and tax bills must originate in the House. Therefore this bill was passed illegally. And then there is the whole "type of tax" issue.
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The way I understand taxes to work, is that a tax is used to pay for government spending. It is not defined as something one must pay if they do not purchase a product. To me, that is what a penalty is.

Also, if one chooses to not purchase a product, and therefore, refuses to pay the penalty, don't they go to a debtors prison under this new law?

In addition to the above questions, isn't that the exact same reason why there was an American Revolution to begin with?

It is this American Citizen's opinion that the Federal Government has over stepped their authority and are interfering in people's personal lives.
 
Steinhauer said:
The way I understand taxes to work, is that a tax is used to pay for government spending. It is not defined as something one must pay if they do not purchase a product. To me, that is what a penalty is.

Also, if one chooses to not purchase a product, and therefore, refuses to pay the penalty, don't they go to a debtors prison under this new law?

In addition to the above questions, isn't that the exact same reason why there was an American Revolution to begin with?

It is this American Citizen's opinion that the Federal Government has over stepped their authority and are interfering in people's personal lives.
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In bold, only applies to teabaggers, not me.
 
rolling7 said:
That is very close to admitting you want a socialist government.

Please reconsider.
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No, it isn't socialist government and you have no idea about what socialist government means.

Let look at Steinhauer's quote.
It is this American Citizen's opinion that the Federal Government has over stepped their authority and are interfering in people's personal lives.
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That's federalist, not socialist.

Some socialist countries have decentralized government that put provinces (like state) to take control of government.
 
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