It must get tiring!

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whatdidyousay! said:
OKj illio, I have to ask you how tall are you?? I want to see if Midnightsun really is able to see how tall we're... if she does we better made sure to not be naked when posting comments here....
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she's an inch shorter than me. I'm 5 feet one inches.
 
I think we need a bench for all the popcorn eaters.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
OKj illio, I have to ask you how tall are you?? I want to see if Midnightsun really is able to see how tall we're... if she does we better made sure to not be naked when posting comments here....
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Oh shit! I better go put a shirt on now!
 
Yes, I'm tired standing up, and now my popcorn is done....oh wait.... :popcorn: found some.
 
CSign said:
correction: I had no experience with ASL when my child was born.

I communicate quite effectively with my son. It's been made pretty clear in this thread a part of how I communicate with him.
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I said I would jump in this thread when I was tagged, well here I am.

You communicate quite effectively with your son? It may appear to be so, on the surface, but until you begin to see things from his perspective, there will continue to be many gaps in communication. Full on sign language such as represented in ASL (Auslan, BSL and so forth) is the only means by which you can reach full communication and understanding with a Deaf child or adult.

BTW, this is coming from an deaf adult born severely-deaf, raised fully oral, mainstreamed, the only deaf in my family and environmment - who is now Deaf using sign language and voice-off. It is for the very reasons above. I could never be 'hearing', because my perspective was Deaf from the beginning.
 
BecLak said:
I said I would jump in this thread when I was tagged, well here I am.

You communicate quite effectively with your son? It may appear to be so, on the surface, but until you begin to see things from his perspective, there will continue to be many gaps in communication. Full on sign language such as represented in ASL (Auslan, BSL and so forth) is the only means by which you can reach full communication and understanding with a Deaf child or adult.

BTW, this is coming from an deaf adult born severely-deaf, raised fully oral, mainstreamed, the only deaf in my family and environmment - who is now Deaf using sign language and voice-off. It is for the very reasons above. I could never be 'hearing', because my perspective was Deaf from the beginning.
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Thanks for the thought.

But... My son is not "oral" and we don't have any communication barriers. Hearing aids on or off, we communicate effectively and with ease.
 
BecLak said:
I said I would jump in this thread when I was tagged, well here I am.

You communicate quite effectively with your son? It may appear to be so, on the surface, but until you begin to see things from his perspective, there will continue to be many gaps in communication. Full on sign language such as represented in ASL (Auslan, BSL and so forth) is the only means by which you can reach full communication and understanding with a Deaf child or adult.

BTW, this is coming from an deaf adult born severely-deaf, raised fully oral, mainstreamed, the only deaf in my family and environmment - who is now Deaf using sign language and voice-off. It is for the very reasons above. I could never be 'hearing', because my perspective was Deaf from the beginning.
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Same here and I agree. I became deaf when I was two years old, and in the beginning I had no choice but try to be hearing. I have been trying that for most of my adult life as well, and when I took a good hard look at the results, all the problems and bs entailed in that, I started to become Deaf. I was Deaf all along and only needed to realize it at long last.
 
To add: I make a point of putting myself in his shoes and seeing things from his perspective. He is quite content and happy with his life.
 
CSign said:
Thanks for the thought.

But... My son is not "oral" and we don't have any communication barriers. Hearing aids on or off, we communicate effectively and with ease.
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have you thought that your son is accommodating you?
 
CSign said:
To add: I make a point of putting myself in his shoes and seeing things from his perspective. He is quite content and happy with his life.
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Ah ah ah! From your perspective he is. Just wait.
 
CSign said:
To add: I make a point of putting myself in his shoes and seeing things from his perspective. He is quite content and happy with his life.
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In what ways do you do that?
 
CSign said:
I conceded that back in December...like I said, it didn't bother me. It was a matter of semantics.
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How could comparing SEE to ASL be a matter of semantics? You are definitely off-centre there. You are fast running out of turns. The hangman is up to the noose already.
 
BecLak said:
How could comparing SEE to ASL be a matter of semantics?
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I totally agree! It is so not semantics. SEE is entirely different than ASL. SEE isn't a language, never has been. ASL is a language in its own entirety. Just because SEE is compared to English doesn't make it semantics.
 
c-mantics.
see-mantics.

oh my!
 
CSign said:
To add: I make a point of putting myself in his shoes and seeing things from his perspective. He is quite content and happy with his life.
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.....and just how old is your son, if I remember correctly, he is around the age of my youngest son.....at that age - they are still very content under the warmth of our motherhen feathers.
 
BecLak said:
How could comparing SEE to ASL be a matter of semantics? You are definitely off-centre there. You are fast running out of turns. The hangman is up to the noose already.
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Ok.
 
CSign said:
Ok.
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I see you're catching a lot of flak here and am wondering why you continue to post. I mean, we tell you in no uncertain terms that SEE is worthless, yet you persist in telling us that we are wrong. Oh well. I guess you must be bored today.
 
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