It must get tiring!

[jillio]

I don't know whether or not her writing would be effected. I'm stating that she has a beautiful writing style.

And you said because of the way she writes, no one would even know she had brain damage. What makes you think the way anyone writes would be indicative of brain damage? Many people with TBI write beautifully. One is not necessarily related to the other. Yet you attempted to connect them in your post.

 

[jillio]

better read up on her post history. she pulls the "brain injury" card whenever kitchen gets hot.

Exactly. Just like some else pulls the "You are attacking me!" card.

 

[Jiro]

I don't know whether or not her writing would be effected. I'm stating that she has a beautiful writing style.

where did we say anything about her writing style? we're disputing her posts, not criticizing her writing style.

my post (not writing) style is rather Germanic - concise and succinct. some may views it as too Klingon... harsh and disproportionate use of force.

 

[CSign]

semantics? oh boy.... I'm mistaken then....

looks like you're far from the first step.... the sooner you start listening to us, the better it is for your son because sooner or later - your son will be involved in a world that you cannot be part of it if you keep up with this stubbornness.

You will truly feel left out and so will he because no child does not want to experience moments in his life without his parents. We know this because we are the proof and your son is basically walking in the same path as us.... just like many deafies.

All we want is to not let him be part of cycle.

Hate to burst your bubble, but not all kids have sh*tty parents. My son and I have a great relationship, and communicate effectively. I am walking the journey with him, and he will not be a part of any cycle. I am making sure of that.

Here... I'll say it for you...

"but that's what they all say! They all think their kid will be different!"

And yes. Mine will be. Because I'm making sure his communication needs are always addressed, along with everything else that comes along with it. I will fight for him till I can't fight anymore, and that'll be the day I move on from
this life.

 

[deafskeptic]

semantics? oh boy.... I'm mistaken then....

looks like you're far from the first step.... the sooner you start listening to us, the better it is for your son because sooner or later - your son will be involved in a world that you cannot be part of it if you keep up with this stubbornness.

You will truly feel left out and so will he because no child does not want to experience moments in his life without his parents. We know this because we are the proof and your son is basically walking in the same path as us.... just like many deafies.

All we want is to not let him be part of cycle.

It's sad that so many hearing parents are unable to be part of the deaf world because they chose not to learn to speak on the child's terms.

 

[jillio]

Hate to burst your bubble, but not all kids have sh*tty parents. My son and I have a great relationship, and communicate effectively. I am walking the journey with him, and he will not be a part of any cycle. I am making sure of that.

Here... I'll say it for you...

"but that's what they all say! They all think their kid will be different!"

And yes. Mine will be. Because I'm making sure his communication needs are always addressed, along with everything else that comes along with it. I will fight for him till I can't fight anymore, and that'll be the day I move on from
this life.

There is a thread in deaf ed that you probably should read. There is a thread in there by a 16 year old whose parents thought that he would be different, too. Turns out, he is just like all the Deaf before him.

You really overestimate yourself. You seem to think you have much more control than you actually do. And the type of over controling, I will do it for my child, I am the reason for his success, is harmful in and of itself. Your child is an independent being, not an appendage.

 

[CSign]

where did we say anything about her writing style? we're disputing her posts, not criticizing her writing style.

my post (not writing) style is rather Germanic - concise and succinct. some may views it as too Klingon... harsh and disproportionate use of force.

I had wanted to compliment her style of writing earlier in the thread, but didn't have a chance. When I came back to it I saw the other comments, and I included it in my post rather than breaking it up.

Either way, I don't think we should be bringing that up unless she does.

 

[jillio]

It's sad that so many hearing parents are unable to be part of the deaf world because they chose not to learn to speak on the child's terms.

And as a consequence, the same thing keeps happening over and over. The parent insists that their child will be different because they are the best parent ever to raise a deaf child, and then lo and behold, the child reaches their teen/young adult years, and they become part of the Deaf community and embrace ASL and deaf values. Why people delude themselves into thinking that them doing the same old thing is ever going to get different results is beyond me.

 

[Jiro]

Hate to burst your bubble, but not all kids have sh*tty parents. My son and I have a great relationship, and communicate effectively. I am walking the journey with him, and he will not be a part of any cycle. I am making sure of that.

Here... I'll say it for you...

"but that's what they all say! They all think their kid will be different!"

And yes. Mine will be. Because I'm making sure his communication needs are always addressed, along with everything else that comes along with it. I will fight for him till I can't fight anymore, and that'll be the day I move on from
this life.

Hate to burst your bubble, mom... I have a great close relationship with my parents and we communicate just fine but they do not know my world. I am walking the journey on my own and along the journey, I have met many individuals who share mutual understandings. Together - we learn more about ourselves and feel dang good. Then we share our wisdoms to others who are going thru what we went thru in the past.

With the way you are right now.... you'll never understand nor be part of it. I guarantee it. I know you don't believe that and like I said - this is nothing new to us. this is same ole' same ole' especially with parents like you.

His communication needs is a very very tiny part of picture. You're missing the big picture. You're not going to be with him 24/7. You will not be with him when he deals with hearing people, job interviews, dating, injustices, discriminations, etc.

 

[Jiro]

I had wanted to compliment her style of writing earlier in the thread, but didn't have a chance. When I came back to it I saw the other comments, and I included it in my post rather than breaking it up.

Either way, I don't think we should be bringing that up unless she does.

but... she brought it up first. many times. I don't know why she kept bringing it up.... hence my reply to Jillio - "go easy on her"... as in trying to speak in a language that she can understand.

I'm no mind reader nor an FBI writing forensic scientist but if she keeps bringing it up whenever kitchen gets hot, it obviously means she must be frustrated with being misunderstood or frustrated that we are not agreeing with her like the way she wants.

 

[Jiro]

And as a consequence, the same thing keeps happening over and over. The parent insists that their child will be different because they are the best parent ever to raise a deaf child, and then lo and behold, the child reaches their teen/young adult years, and they become part of the Deaf community and embrace ASL and deaf values. Why people delude themselves into thinking that them doing the same old thing is ever going to get different results is beyond me.

I definitely do not want to hold my children's hand and follow them everywhere. That's too much coddling. I don't want to raise no dang "mommy's boy". that's how my parents raised me.

I don't know what my children will be like. Will they be gay? blind? punk? pothead? I only hope that I am very understanding to my children's world aka "different choice of lifestyle" and that my children can come to me anytime for guidance... or nothing but company

My only goal for my children is that they live to share wisdom with others.

 

[jillio]

I had wanted to compliment her style of writing earlier in the thread, but didn't have a chance. When I came back to it I saw the other comments, and I included it in my post rather than breaking it up.

Either way, I don't think we should be bringing that up unless she does.

That is the point. She did.

You do a lot of things that the Deaf consider innapropriate, but you just go right on doing them. Why should you dictate what is appropriate for anyone else? If you have a problem with it, don't do it. But it is not for you to determine the appropriateness of anyone else's behavior.

 

[jillio]

I definitely do not want to hold my children's hand and follow them everywhere. That's too much coddling. I don't want to raise no dang "mommy's boy". that's how my parents raised me.

I don't know what my children will be like. Will they be gay? blind? punk? pothead? I only hope that I am very understanding to my children's world aka "different choice of lifestyle" and that my children can come to me anytime for guidance... or nothing but company

My only goal for my children is that they live to share wisdom with others.

That would be a wonderful goal.

And I agree. That need to live your child's life for them only creates problems for the child to have to overcome in the future. But then again, it is another case of being what the parent needs and not what the child needs.

 

[CSign]

You might want to check with the Deaf before you appoint yourself to educate anyone about them. It is not something you should presume they want you to do.

Just FYI, I don't need to check with anyone about whether or not it's okay to educate others in my sons needs. Insert obnoxious sunglasses smily here --->

 

[CSign]

And as a consequence, the same thing keeps happening over and over. The parent insists that their child will be different because they are the best parent ever to raise a deaf child, and then lo and behold, the child reaches their teen/young adult years, and they become part of the Deaf community and embrace ASL and deaf values. Why people delude themselves into thinking that them doing the same old thing is ever going to get different results is beyond me.

Right. Because I said I had a problem if my son identifies himself as culturally Deaf and used ASL as his primary mode of communication.

 

[deafskeptic]

Just FYI, I don't need to check with anyone about whether or not it's okay to educate others in my sons needs. Insert obnoxious sunglasses smily here --->

Guess you'll learn stuff the hard way if at all.*sigh*.

 

[CSign]

That is the point. She did.

You do a lot of things that the Deaf consider innapropriate, but you just go right on doing them. Why should you dictate what is appropriate for anyone else? If you have a problem with it, don't do it. But it is not for you to determine the appropriateness of anyone else's behavior.

LOL. Ok.

 

[Jiro]

Guess you'll learn stuff the hard way if at all.*sigh*.

and the cycle begins once again....

 

[Beowulf]

I know Beowulf knows her. So she's findable. So is she going to jail for claiming to practice clinical psychology if she isn't really allowed to?

she has a brain damage. go easy on her. she probably gets easily confused....

Ummm, I know her??? Nawww, that flatters me too much. I have chatted with her through the messenger, and am satisfied that she is a kind and lost person. There is nothing I can do to stop others from bashing her, but I won't take part in it, since I know better. No hard feelings.

 

[rockin'robin]

shit just got... hilariously unreal. how do you sue a person you don't know? no name? no address? nada.

Well....you can sing.....

"Hi-Oh Silver....
In the air....
I just lost my underwear!

So...I no see...
I no care...
'Cause I like the kind
the women wear"!