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LuciaDisturbed. I am a German American and I know German History very well. This is from Gallaudet University acamedic research papers. I will provide you with the Gallaudet University link.

In the 1920s, before the Nazis even came to power, there was a movement within both the US and German medical communities supported in general by society to sterilize mentally retarded and criminally insane people living in mental institutions.

Germany actually looked to the United States as a model in relation to sterilization and to excluding people with disabilities or congenital illness from immigration. The great Alexander Graham Bell's even began an initiative to stop Deaf people from intermarrying.

As the National Socialist party developed it had its Deaf supporters. A June 1933 issue of the deaf newspaper, Die Stimme, talks about the founding of the first Deaf storm trooper group, and there was also a Deaf motorized S.A. unit. However employment improved for Deaf people because hearing people were serving in the army.

By 1937, Muhs alleged, 95 percent of Deaf children belonged to the Hitler Youth for the Deaf. The young members wore the letter "G" on their shoulder (for "gehoerlosen" deaf).

By the mid-1930s, Muhs noted, many deaf Jews sensed that they were about to be persecuted. They were removed from leadership positions in deaf organizations and athletic associations, and other deaf people lost contact with them. A deaf newspaper of those years carried an article stating that contact between Jews and non-Jews was forbidden.

http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/WorldAroundYou/holocaust/holocaust-gt.html
 
Levonian said:
Heath, why do you identify so vehemently with Nazi ideology? The Nazis hated and wanted to exterminate all those whom they felt were inferior to themselves, including the deaf. But you’re practically their golden poster boy. What’s the dilio, yo? Is this some sort extremely perverted form of self-hatred on your part? Do you subconsciously wish that your parents had been euthanized and that you had never been born? If it is, then you are one seriously confused individual. Get thee to a shrink, pronto.

Levonian, That is clearly immature. You need to look at :

Leviticus 19:14 (King James Version)

Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

There are numerous healings and Jesus Christ healed a Deaf boy at the Sea of Galilee.

My parents love and obey Jesus Christ and God. There is no way I am going to be euthanized. The doctor wanted to abort me and my mom told the doctor no and she prayed to God during this very difficult time and I came through. My parents raised me very good.

Levonian, You are one very clearly disturbed individual to be thinking that I secretly wish I was euthanized. I also think you watch too much Jerry Springer and do not look at the real life events and there are alots of misconceptions bound by getting carried away with high emotions and not enough looking at the facts of what really happened during that time in history. You have a very active imagination and you are not focusing enough on the facts of that time and what is happening today. I am not going to agrue with somebody who does not have a mind of his own and is able to think for himself and to discern for himself without following the crowd.
 
Deehamilton said:
Stormfront Website??? What is it, really??? :stupid:


me too, I am so curious what they look like and what is it? I am gonna to look at this website.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Nooooo.....they exterminated ALL deaf people...as well as gays and lesbians and gypsys and other groups.....not just Jewish people.....

Correct.
 
Heath, I would suggest you to check the link where Boult provided in his post.

Yes I met many deafies here in Germany and received their sad stories what they have been through in Nazi time.

Some deaf jewish survivors had been experience in camp. I know from their interview on TV for the Deaf. A interviewer wondered how they stay survivor because they supposed to be dead straight way when Nazi found out that they are deaf before accept them in camp. They said that Nazi didn´t know they are deaf... All what they do is shut their mouth like hearing jewish... They followed what hearies do. One of jew deafies are being shot because he can´t hear Nazi´s call. Of course it´s not just jew but polish, polities, gypsies, gays, etc. They received different color of badges then Nazi will know where they come from.

German deafies do not allowed to use sign language in the public. Nazi hit their hands with rod if they see them sign in the public.

I have some German survivors who were being sterilized and told me sad stories. Many disabled Germans escaped out of Germany.

Handciapped babies must killed straight way.

Hilter want to see his pride country to be clean and make sure that his people must have blond hair and blue eyes. Health babies born and must have German names accord Hilter´s list, not use names from outside of Germany.


Health, again - It´s not just jew.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Heath, I would suggest you to check the link where Boult provided in his post.

Yes I met many deafies here in Germany and received their sad stories what they have been through in Nazi time.

Some deaf jewish survivors had been experience in camp. I know from their interview on TV for the Deaf. A interviewer wondered how they stay survivor because they supposed to be dead straight way when Nazi found out that they are deaf before accept them in camp. They said that Nazi didn´t know they are deaf... All what they do is shut their mouth like hearing jewish... They followed what hearies do. One of jew deafies are being shot because he can´t hear Nazi´s call. Of course it´s not just jew but polish, polities, gypsies, gays, etc. They received different color of badges then Nazi will know where they come from.

German deafies do not allowed to use sign language in the public. Nazi hit their hands with rod if they see them sign in the public.

I have some German survivors who were being sterilized and told me sad stories. Many disabled Germans escaped out of Germany.

Handciapped babies must killed straight way.

Hilter want to see his pride country to be clean and make sure that his people must have blond hair and blue eyes. Health babies born and must have German names accord Hilter´s list, not use names from outside of Germany.


Health, again - It´s not just jew.

Yeah I know, my husband's great grandmother was buried alive by nazi in Poland. She was not a jew but an old lady. U know many of them wanted my boys to join with them because they have blue eyes and blond hair but I am proud of them cuz they knew they killed thier great-great grandmother. Plus they have some native blood in them. I taught them not to be racist.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Heath, I would suggest you to check the link where Boult provided in his post.

Yes I met many deafies here in Germany and received their sad stories what they have been through in Nazi time.

Some deaf jewish survivors had been experience in camp. I know from their interview on TV for the Deaf. A interviewer wondered how they stay survivor because they supposed to be dead straight way when Nazi found out that they are deaf before accept them in camp. They said that Nazi didn´t know they are deaf... All what they do is shut their mouth like hearing jewish... They followed what hearies do. One of jew deafies are being shot because he can´t hear Nazi´s call. Of course it´s not just jew but polish, polities, gypsies, gays, etc. They received different color of badges then Nazi will know where they come from.

German deafies do not allowed to use sign language in the public. Nazi hit their hands with rod if they see them sign in the public.

I have some German survivors who were being sterilized and told me sad stories. Many disabled Germans escaped out of Germany.

Handciapped babies must killed straight way.

Hilter want to see his pride country to be clean and make sure that his people must have blond hair and blue eyes. Health babies born and must have German names accord Hilter´s list, not use names from outside of Germany.


Health, again - It´s not just jew.

Heath, Listen to Liebling. She knows more than you. No wonder why you never touched the land of German...
 
Heath, how do u know u really from German? Maybe your ancestors were immgrant to German from other countries alike France? There was show on TV about genealogy and this man thought he was full blood German but he learned something else his ancestors were not really blood German but from other countries south of German. They immgrant up to north long time ago.
 
What made you do that?? PM me when you get a chance heath.....


Im happy for you~
 
Heath said:
The Nazis only exterminated Jewish Deaf people and not Deaf Germans. I think you are very angry I stopped going there.

Got cites? If I remember correctly, the Nazis wanted to eliminate all deafies from das Vaterland, not just the Jewish ones. I’m goin’ a Googlin’ right now for proof. Bet I come up with something before you do.
 
And, by the way...glad you're steering away from the aforementioned site altogether Heath. :thumb:
 
Levonian said:
Got cites? If I remember correctly, the Nazis wanted to eliminate all deafies from das Vaterland, not just the Jewish ones. I’m goin’ a Googlin’ right now for proof. Bet I come up with something before you do.

I'd be interested to see your proof, because, truthfully I agree with YOU (and others) who say it wasn't just the Jews who were exterminated. It was anyone who Hitler thought was inferior to himself. That's gays, Jews, the disabled (all disabled, not just the deaf).

Btw, Heath. I'm of German decent. My father's parents were Germans who immigrated to America after WWII. I was also born disabled. Had I been born in Germany during Hitler's reign, I REALLY believe that I would not have survived. This is regardless the fact that I am of German decent.
 
Heath said:
The Nazis only exterminated Jewish Deaf people and not Deaf Germans.

Levonian said:
Got cites? If I remember correctly, the Nazis wanted to eliminate all deafies from das Vaterland, not just the Jewish ones.

Well, from what I could find it looks like you’re partially right. Deaf Germans were not exterminated by the Nazis. However, they were forbidden to intermarry, and were subjected to mandatory sterilization. These first four links are particularly informative. I think I might get that Gally Press book when the cash flow starts improving a bit.
 
jazzy said:
Heath, how do u know u really from German? Maybe your ancestors were immgrant to German from other countries alike France? There was show on TV about genealogy and this man thought he was full blood German but he learned something else his ancestors were not really blood German but from other countries south of German. They immgrant up to north long time ago.

was waiting for someone to mention this :)


german american? seriously, how many generations were your ancestors here in america?
 
Levonian said:
Well, from what I could find it looks like you’re partially right. Deaf Germans were not exterminated by the Nazis. However, they were forbidden to intermarry, and were subjected to mandatory sterilization. These first four links are particularly informative. I think I might get that Gally Press book when the cash flow starts improving a bit.


Let see if you can afford the fancy books, Gallaudet Encyclopedia of Deaf People and Deafness :whistle:

Gallaudet encyclopedia of deaf people and deafness
Van Cleve, John V.

Summary
Here for the first time is a comprehensive single source providing information on every possible aspect of the issues & culture of the deaf & hearing-impaired community. Published under the sponsorship of Gallaudet University, Washington, DC, the world's only liberal arts college for the deaf, & written by 300 experts from around the world in the fields of sociology, audiology, law, education, psychology, history, & rehabilitation, this unique & authoritative three-volume reference work is broad in scope & international in coverage. It features 271 articles on sign languages & other methods of communication hearing, audiology, & auditory disorders organizations, associations, publications of the deaf community, rehabilitation, demographics, religion, biographies of distinguished deaf individuals, educational programs, & the conditions & status of the deaf community in most of the major countries around the world. This unique encyclopedia, including an 8,000-entry index & bibliographies for most articles, meet Distributed by Syndetic Solutions, Inc.
This ambitious three-volume set covers social, cultural, psychological, physical, and educational aspects of deafness. Signed articles range from half-page to more than 30 pages with subsections and bibliography. Articles on many countries' programs for deaf people increase the usefulness. Biographical entries are included for people important to deaf people and to society in general. Due to the price, purchase of this unique source may be limited to larger public, academic, and health science libraries with interest in hearing impairments, rehabilitation, and education of deaf people and the information needs of those who work with them. (Index not seen.) Excellently done; highly recommended. Jean E. Crampon, Southern Illinois Univ. Sch. of Medicine Lib., SpringfieldCopyright 1986 Cahners Business Information, Inc. Appeared in: Reed Elsevier Inc. (c) Copyright 2006, Cahners Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
My grandparents came from Germany. That is how I know. This still is really an immature discussion because all of you are hurrying to prove me wrong and telling me to bet that you will get it before I do which is really immature and downright stupid. The another thing that is very insulting is you are telling me I don not know my German history. I know my German history much more than you guys probably will put altogether. Liebling, Part of it is true and part of it is propangada. You have to remember you are living in a judazied Germany today. You are from England and are married to a German man. Way too many people can make up stories about Germany then people say this is believeable, and things like that. I believe German history during that time is so distorted but strangely enough, German history before WW II started is fine and it was not a judazied Germany at all. Yes I stopped going to Stormfront for my own personal reasons which has nothing to do with AllDeaf or the fact that I am going to NTID pretty soon. I am sure you are thinking, I got him alright with evil screeching laughter and facial expressions that says I got you because of your infulence that you tried so hard to impose on me here on AllDeaf when I have done nothing but simply explain these things and you fly off the handle and insult me and you will not really listen to me and focus on what I am really saying so that is something you are never gonna understand anyways, It is something that is between God and me alone. The another thing is that you forget is that I pray everyday in my prayer life and that too is something that is between God and me alone. Thank you Roadrunner and yes this is something that is solely between me and God alone. The another thing is that I came back from lunch and you think I stay on the computer all day. I don't and I stay on the computer part of the day and part of the night. I do have a life of my own.
 
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