Husband of pregnant woman wants her off life support

Finally. Let her husband start grieving in privacy.

According to the reports, her body smelled like death. Her bones were breaking down. Their limbs were stiffed. You have to be careful when you hold a hand. You can feel cracking. Those are signs of necrosis.

The hospital won't appeal. Actually, the hospital is on her husband's side. It is just that the hospital's hands were tied because of the law.
 
Hope this is a lesson for the next one if there is one. Law need to be changed. It was too early in the pregnancy to follow the law.
 
MangaReader said:
Hope this is a lesson for the next one if there is one. Law need to be changed. It was too early in the pregnancy to follow the law.
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The law is unlikely to change because Texas is very pro-life state.
 
hoichi said:
I'm not sure what what your statement has to do with my post.
Indeed you are correct there are some children born that in the end they are just vegetables.
But what really is the numbers of these? To me really it's not about the babies born as vegetables. Once we make it easy fort he gov to do away with what ever it deems as unwanted or unworthy to live it won't just stop with vegetable babies.
History demonstrates this fairly clearly.
Why would the hearie world just stop it's cost effective and monetary approach to being born and having the right to live?
If we do away with vegetable babies, and do away with those born so deformed they are such. Burden and waste on the tax payers, how long will it be when others are targeted?
The first laws passed by nazi Germany were against the Deaf not Jews. Once they found it easy to target the deaf others int eh end were targeted and the list grew. There is a lesson here for us.
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b/c with dhh it's just ONE aspect of a person's life....A person can STILL live a rich full life without hearing, sight, mobilty, any of the classic disabilties.....A dhh kid can be a professor, own their own home, have kids, be a taxpayer and ANYTHING that a hearing person can do.Same with sight and mobilty.......With PVS there's NO life.....the shell just sits there. Even a profoundly mentally handicapped kid can interact (although more on the level of a baby) A PVS person cannot even interact.....There's no slippary slope there.......PVS is very black and white.
 
God I can't imagine being in a situation like these poor people. Your wife/daughter is dead, basically decomposing right in front of you and you have no say in the matter. Thankfully they can all get on with their lives, have a beautiful ceremony for her and the child they lost. Hopefully they all can finally have some peace.
 
deafdyke said:
b/c with dhh it's just ONE aspect of a person's life....A person can STILL live a rich full life without hearing, sight, mobilty, any of the classic disabilties.....A dhh kid can be a professor, own their own home, have kids, be a taxpayer and ANYTHING that a hearing person can do.Same with sight and mobilty.......With PVS there's NO life.....the shell just sits there. Even a profoundly mentally handicapped kid can interact (although more on the level of a baby) A PVS person cannot even interact.....There's no slippary slope there.......PVS is very black and white.
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Sure it is. but you are only focused on one thing. and it is narrow. because you assume and it is an assumption that such a narrow focus will forever be kept.
frankly
it wont
the goal post will be moved to suit the whims of those who wield the power.
and that is never us
hence caution really is in order
all things considered
 
Angel1989 said:
God I can't imagine being in a situation like these poor people. Your wife/daughter is dead, basically decomposing right in front of you and you have no say in the matter. Thankfully they can all get on with their lives, have a beautiful ceremony for her and the child they lost. Hopefully they all can finally have some peace.
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no they were not basically decomposing in front of him
 
hoichi said:
no they were not basically decomposing in front of him
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Well the articles I read, stated that when they moved her for an MRI her bones cracked and broke. She had the death smell, which if you haven't been around it well your lucky. Her eyes were hollow and sunk in. Her skin was a ghostly color. Her organs turning to mush.

I did a rotation at the morgue, a body decomposes fast. Poison releases from your dying organs and yes it smells, really, really bad.

The issue has been solved, or it will be soon. Thankfully for this family they can now grieve the loss of the mother and baby.
 
hoichi said:
no they were not basically decomposing in front of him
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You're wrong. She already died in November. They were literally decomposing. Ask your doctor, nurse or neurologist, and they will explain you the stages of dying. My family would tell you as well, and they're medical professionals. Imagine that if you hold crackers in a bag, and you squeeze it. Yeah, that's how bones break down.
 
hoichi said:
no they were not basically decomposing in front of him
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So you have never seen someone on long term life support?

I have, and yes that is exactly what they do.

The main reason so many people have DNR orders today, if they have ever seen it.
 
Thank god, they're taking her off.

Another way to look at this. I mean way back at the begining of the thread we talked about the likelihood of the baby having severe birth defects. A woman has a choice when she discovers her baby might have severe birth defects, she can choose to abort or continue with the pregnancy. Keeping her on life support was actually taking that choice away from her. If the circumstances were different, she was healthy and discovered that the baby would be brain damaged or something, how do we know that she wouldn't have chosen to abort? Not that I'm saying she should, but that is a right for her, one they were taking away and should have been left up to the father, not the state.


And there's no way in hell I'd be paying the hospital bill for her to have been kept on life support all this time. No ****ing way, I'd be sending that on to the state, you wanted her life support, you did this against my wishes.....here's your bill.
 
Bottesini said:
So you have never seen someone on long term life support?

I have, and yes that is exactly what they do.

The main reason so many people have DNR orders today, if they have ever seen it.
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yes i have. my grandmother as a matter of fact.
 
Barbaro said:
You're wrong. She already died in November. They were literally decomposing. Ask your doctor, nurse or neurologist, and they will explain you the stages of dying. My family would tell you as well, and they're medical professionals. Imagine that if you hold crackers in a bag, and you squeeze it. Yeah, that's how bones break down.
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basically decomposing is not a medical term. i know how to break bones. its actually one of my specialties from a former life. as well as my current profession as a karate instructor. if you want to discuss breaking bones im all for that. but this is not the thread for it.
 
hoichi said:
basically decomposing is not a medical term.
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I just checked a medical dictionary, and it is right there. None of the major organs in her poor body was working, the body just decay. It starts to smell death. The bones break down. Toxins are released from failing organs. Arteries walls break down as well.

hoichi said:
i know how to break bones. its actually one of my specialties from a former life. as well as my current profession as a karate instructor.
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The difference is you're alive, and this poor patient isn't.

hoichi said:
if you want to discuss breaking bones im all for that. but this is not the thread for it.
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Ok.
 
hoichi said:
basically decomposing is not a medical term. i know how to break bones. its actually one of my specialties from a former life. as well as my current profession as a karate instructor. if you want to discuss breaking bones im all for that. but this is not the thread for it.
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Bones breaking down. Degrading.

Not breaking bones...
 
Bottesini said:
Bones breaking down. Degrading.

Not breaking bones...
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Your right Botti. When I was in a coma for a month, my body went through hell. I am still trying to get back to my normal self. I have to take 100,000 iu of Vit D every week as a result of that time. Probably the reason my leg broke so badly in Maui, my bones were/are brittle. It took a solid year for my kidney and liver functions to get in the normal range again.

That poor pregnant women was dead that whole time. Sad.
 
Bottesini said:
Bones breaking down. Degrading.

Not breaking bones...
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Yep, Bottesini. Thanks.

Angel1989 said:
Your right Botti. When I was in a coma for a month, my body went through hell. I am still trying to get back to my normal self. I have to take 100,000 iu of Vit D every week as a result of that time. Probably the reason my leg broke so badly in Maui, my bones were/are brittle. It took a solid year for my kidney and liver functions to get in the normal range again.

That poor pregnant women was dead that whole time. Sad.
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Yeah, it takes very long...I'm sorry to hear that, but at least you're feeling all right. Do you walk by yourself okay after your coma? You could try Vitamin D liquid. I like them better.

My aunt was in coma twice. She was technically dead for half an hour, and it was insane. Her personality's changed. Her memory's off. Her bones are brittle. She can't drive anymore due to her damaged eye sights. She walks with her cane sometimes. Actually, her sons sued her doctor for malpractice. She had been complaining about her symptoms to her original doctor since her kidney surgery. Doctors found out her infected kidney was left untreated. I was with my aunt at a store when she went into seizure. Had to make sure she didn't bite her tongue nor hit her head on the floor. I had someone call 911, and they had to transport her by medical airlift. I had my hands washed and cleaned thoroughly with hydrogen peroxide and stuff on doctor's order 'cause she squeezed my hand during her seizure, and drew a blood. She had a bit long fingernails. Found out she had sepsis. I was fine physically.
 
Really? I didn't know that is what happens to our bodies while in coma or on life support! Don't keep me on life support pls. That is something I do not want to put my family through.

Since they were both EMTs (if I remember correctly), they knew about it hence her reason for her wishes not to be put on life support.

Interesting.
 
You raise an interesting point shel, and would a trained EMT, a medically educated woman wish to have her baby incubating in what was basically a dead body? Probably not. At least they took her off though!!!
 
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