"House Divided" on Fox TV about deaf teenager

[shel90]

I'm curious.. other than House, who else did you think had an audist attitude? I missed something.

The other doctors...

Really, it was the underlying message..that deaf people who dont have implants are limited.

 

[shel90]

She does watch the show religiously. She's just upset, but she also saw where things were going 10 mins into the program. If it bothered her that much, she could have opted to watch another program instead of allow it to inflame her.

Ah well.

My thoughts on the whole thing is this... Hollywood has a dismal track record for portraying all differences in a negative light. I don't much care for how people in wheelchairs are portrayed, but I'm not out the change the world. I highly doubt ONE show is going to have that much impact on society. But, I will say this.. The overall tone of the show reflects a deep audist atitude. I think if anything, this show is indicative of the work that still needs to be done in educating people regarding deaf people.

With the audists views that comes with CI doctors and audiologists, I doubt the education about deaf people will be positive.

 

[Banjo]

From my personal plot synopsis, I think House doesn't have much respect for the deaf culture. I don't really blame him (tbh) but his actions told me that he has no respect for the culture obviously since he thinks Seth needs a CI.

Dr. House has no respect for any cultures including his own. He has always been like that.

 

[shel90]

From my personal plot synopsis, I think House doesn't have much respect for the deaf culture. I don't really blame him (tbh) but his actions told me that he has no respect for the culture obviously since he thinks Seth needs a CI.

Poweron and a few others are right; this isn't the first time he's recklessly done something. He does this in just every other episode.. Something against the patient's wishes.

It doesn't make us any better because we understand deafness much better than the writers (Laurie doesn't even get to pool his own opinion on it).


One thing tho: It appeared Chase did the surgery, but we never saw it.. Only assumed he did it since he's the surgeon and House asked him to. But if you've ever noticed, they don't often have consults and professionals in another area of expertise on house. In almost all episodes, the only doctor from another hospital was Chase's dad, and a few episodes back for the african american lady who was an ex-doctor.

So, seeing how this trend works I didn't expect them to be "perfectly accurate" on the CI part.


What I wanted to see with everyone is that we now all know that House's Character (HOUSE, as in GREGORY HOUSE alone on a TV series) is a pro-hearing world person. He sees deafness as inhibiting, and did not respect their culture obviously. Given what you saw yesterday, if House was a real person, would you still have that admiration and 'friendship' you had with him prior to episode 22? (Last night's).

Nope because that would show that he looks down on my way of life. I dont need to admire someone who looks down on me.

 

[Babyblue]

This show was only an hour long. They wanted to squeeze in what they could in an hour.

Like I said it is a show. I agree with Frisky. If you want accuracy rely on documentaries. Not on some dramatic TV series.

A lot of dramatic shows or movies, shows the impossibles. Take some other shows, or movies.

House portrayed himself as a nutty doctor, that is hallucinating!

 

[JClarke]

Dr. House has no respect for any cultures including his own. He has always been like that.

Well, that is true but in the real world, he would have the respect in the culture of his own, right?

 

[Banjo]

Well, that is true but in the real world, he would have the respect in the culture of his own, right?

I'm talking about his character who is in fact, fictional.

 

[JClarke]

I'm talking about his character who is in fact, fictional.

I know what you meant, but it would be a different story when the actor gets off duty, would the people from the TV show react differently?

 

[Chevy57]

It's weird, because usually the people involved with creating House do their research and even consult with professionals about certain illnesses, disabilities, medications, procedures, etc. so I'm surprised at the amount of inaccuracies. They should not get in touch with cochlear implant specialists. They are stupid.

 

[Babyblue]

I know what you meant, but it would be a different story when the actor gets off duty, would the people from the TV show react differently?

Umm. Isn't that why they call it acting.

Just because an actor or actress plays a role. It does not mean they are that way, when they are not acting. They are simply following a script.

Just because a person plays "Freddy Kruegar" does not mean he is.

People need to learn to separate reality, from ficton.

Again I know and aware of some of the things that happened in the show that is impossible! But it is a fictonal dramatic series.

 

[JClarke]

Umm. Isn't that why they call it acting.

Just because an actor or actress plays a role. It does not mean they are that way, when they are not acting. They are simply following a script.

Just because a person plays "Freddy Kruegar" does not mean he is.

People need to learn to separate reality, from ficton.

Again I know and aware of some of the things that happened in the show that is impossible! But it is a fictonal dramatic series.

Ok, thanks for the specifically clarification but what botts said earlier in the thread, that the show relies to the doctor's accuracy in the show, mind you, I didnt see the show since it is not showing down here, but reading these posts, from the others in the discussion here. Some of you all has mentioned about the CI, being acitivtied in an hour (normally would wait 3 - 4 weeks after operation) they would rather be harsh than squeezing everything in a hour timeframe?

 

[Babyblue]

Ok, thanks for the specifically clarification but what botts said earlier in the thread, that the show relies to the doctor's accuracy in the show, mind you, I didnt see the show since it is not showing down here, but reading these posts, from the others in the discussion here. Some of you all has mentioned about the CI, being acitivtied in an hour (normally would wait 3 - 4 weeks after operation) they would rather be harsh than squeezing everything in a hour timeframe?

Welcome to Hollywood!

House with the CI issue, is not the only TV series, that squeezes time frame into a show. Especially, when speaking of reality.

 

[Babyblue]

And if one really wants to speak about the Reality of the T.V. series of House.

How many people would actually tolerate a Dr. like Greggory House? In reality he would have been stripped of his M.D. license.

That is what draws people to the show. He is an arrogant Dr. in the show. He is different and daring. He is generally portrayed as a doctor, with no bedside manner, and harsh!!

Again it is just a fictional, dramatic series.

 

[JClarke]

And if one really wants to speak about the Reality of the T.V. series of House.

How many people would actually tolerate a Dr. like Greggory House? In reality he would have been stripped of his M.D. license.

That is what draws people to the show. He is an arrogant Dr. in the show. He is different and daring. He is generally portrayed as a doctor, with no bedside manner, and harsh!!

Again it is just a fictional, dramatic series.

Welcome to Hollywood!

House with the CI issue, is not the only TV series, that squeezes time frame into a show. Especially, when speaking of reality.

Yes, it is a reality after all. And House would have been stripped with his licence right there, but in the end, he was witty enough to be smart.

 

[Babyblue]

Yes, it is a reality after all. And House would have been stripped with his licence right there, but in the end, he was witty enough to be smart.

Well House, (the character or actor) has a lot of issues. He is hallucinating also. He has a dead co worker that he is seeing, helping him along his case. Talking about a sleep deprived, nutty doctor that pops pain pills constantly.

At the end.. He asked for sleeping pills from Cuddy. He got it. Woke up. He is still seeing his dead co worker. This show is getting interesting!

 

[Banjo]

I know what you meant, but it would be a different story when the actor gets off duty, would the people from the TV show react differently?

Well, it's more than likely that some actors wouldn't share the same opinion. Actors are given lines, and they are expected to do their job regardless of how much they may agree or disagree with the context of it.

 

[Babyblue]

Umm. Isn't that why they call it acting.

Just because an actor or actress plays a role. It does not mean they are that way, when they are not acting. They are simply following a script.

Just because a person plays "Freddy Kruegar" does not mean he is.

People need to learn to separate reality, from ficton.

Again I know and aware of some of the things that happened in the show that is impossible! But it is a fictional dramatic series.

Well, it's more than likely that some actors wouldn't share the same opinion. Actors are given lines, and they are expected to do their job regardless of how much they may agree or disagree with the context of it.

This is exactly what I was trying to say.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

With the audists views that comes with CI doctors and audiologists, I doubt the education about deaf people will be positive.

It has to start somewhere, though. Maybe a letter writing campaign ? Nothing is going to change unless people take it upon themselves to change it. It's all about ratings. I noticed alot of erroneous crap in the program last night; things even *I*, a hearie, knows is inaccurate. Supposedly, they have medical people advising the writers, but that sure as heck wasn't evident here! Perhaps, if people wrote to the TV station affiliates and complained, some head way can be made?

 

[Airboeing744]

Ugh...found it less than positive.

Putting the CI without permission? :roll: They just happen to have a $10,000 device "laying around"?? And why would Chase know how to do an implant?

Activating within MINUTES of surgery?? And doing it while he is a sleep? Are you kidding me?

He can now magically understand speech with no rehab? Lovely.

And last and perhaps worst....Riping out his CI because he was SO against it?? Come on!

I beg to differ; the inside implant is actually $50,000 (total: $85,000)

source: surgeon / audiologist / medical bill

 

[Babyblue]

It has to start somewhere, though. Maybe a letter writing campaign ? Nothing is going to change unless people take it upon themselves to change it. It's all about ratings. I noticed alot of erroneous crap in the program last night; things even *I*, a hearie, knows is inaccurate. Supposedly, they have medical people advising the writers, but that sure as heck wasn't evident here! Perhaps, if people wrote to the TV station affiliates and complained, some head way can be made?

I can imagine.. Every medical inaccuracy, on a fictional medical dramatic show.


Hate to sound harsh. The show was a fictional show!! How can a letter writing campaign help on a fiction?? I can see if it was a documentary or such.

House is House! A pure Fictional M.D. series.... Hate to see what would happen if they ever dare to mention a CI on "Fringe"