Good news? (Abortions)

Banjo said:
Alarmed that abortion providers are out of reach for the pregnant women? Give me a break, people need to start taking responsibilities for their actions and grow up. If the father isn't willing to get involved, nail him to the wall for child support, or give up the child for adoption.

Way, way too many people rely on abortions to solve their problems.
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Amen Banjo!!!!!! :thumb:
 
deafdyke said:
Banjo, I know that eugenics is a slippary slope. However, just allowing abortions for VERY profound conditions, really is not eugenics. Profound means totally 100% incompatible with life conditions, like profound holoprescencephaly (aka cyclops) or anacephely (no brain) I do think that parents need better counseling on those types of conditions. Sometimes they are told that babies with those things are always born dead, when in fact some have lived for a few hours or even days. With those types of condtions, an abortion is pretty much like turning off life support on someone with VERY profound brain damage.

Also, if a baby has died in utero, there's gotta be some way of getting the baby out. The body doesn't always expell the baby. You gotta get it out, otherwise it could kill the mom.
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If it's a stillborn, they will remove it if it's early enough. However, if you are near the birth date, they are likely to induce you into giving birth to a stillborn. Or perform an abortion to remove it since it would start to rot or already is which isn't good for your health. There's also the C-section option.

I know it's a difficult subject to discuss but we have to be careful with how we lay out the ethics when it come to these issues. There's a lot of people out there who would abuse it.
 
Wish people would just take responsibily with sex except for rape cases. Glad that the numbers have dropped.
 
I've been against Abortion ever since I learned what it causes. Look at me, I'm 21 and I have a two year old son who's amazing and I love him with all my heart. He's the best thing ever happened to me.

I'm only for Abortion for two things:

~ Been Raped (Who would want a child that has been concevied by rape? I know I wouldn't be able to stand looking at the child and remember being raped)

~ Child putting mother's health at risk

That's all I'm for it, but for other reasons: You need to take responsbilty for it. You can either put it up for adoption which there are tons of people out there that wants a child or you can just keep the child that is if you can afford it and love the child.
 
That's good to hear that rate of abortions gets lesser and lesser, still, it's too many abortions..

I think this thread should move to the debate thread cos i can see some ADers, here, are debating each other and to disagree with each other..

I already mentioned that what I stood on my opinion of abortion in a several of my own threads.

I dont like an idea of getting ruin of a bastard child of rapist as a child's fault.. Look, I have very several friends of mine who are children of rapists and they are doing fine because their personalities are too different than their fathers. I NEVER understand why prochoicers are considering of children as their faults for rape action... =/

Again, I'd better to respect a mother's choice since I dont like abortion..
Too bad, a child is nothing but a mere choice. Geeze.. :(
 
Well, highest numbers of abortion are more likely to be from underage girls, under 18 years old that who was forced to got aborted by parent due violation of rule or non-tolerant from parent, teen girls are supposed to taking much care about what happens, some parent are making underage girls to put her child for adoption then this child won't find real mother or real father in future, after grow up, plus, other way about rape cases, woman's health risk that caused by newborn and accident to get pregnant from BC or damaged condom, other irresponsible is sex without condom is stupid thing for some women, that make bad move for some women and their future children.

There's numerous of programs have been adopted for underage girls to learn about how care with their sexual and bodies, explains about BC, condom and other stuff to help abortion to be lower, some girls don't pay attention to them.

Rape is crime, no way for most women to want keep or raise their children or put for adoption, they want to be abortion to get out of rapist's way and if child was aborted due rape then rapist wouldn't know or find their child, just lost for being rape, rape is biggest mistake. Rape cases are pretty much higher in some cities and cause abortion to shot up, also same with woman's health risk that caused by newborn, no way for want mother to be decreased from that, that how abortion was counted.
 
Heck, nobody likes or is proabortion. I myself would NEVER have an abortion, but I'm not gonna tell you that you can't have one. If someone came to me and said they were thinking of having an abortion, I would encourage them to explore OTHER options
I do agree that there's a significent percentage of very irresponsible dumbasses out there. Like I really honestly think that along with sex ed, kids need relationship skills training, to reconize what a good healthy relationship IS. So many boys and girls have the most screwed up attitudes ever about sex. Like there are a lot of girls who are sucked into relationships where sex is the primary reason for the relationship, or they are in one of those messed up relationships where a guy in their twenties is dating a teen.
There's also a "I have a big cock" attitude among males. We need to promote GOOD healthy relationships, and a healthy attitude about sexuality!
 
One reason for aborting a baby of rape was not mentioned: Not wanting to deal with the father in the future.

Not sure what current law is where but in some states a rapist could impregnate a woman, spend a few years in jail, then once released demand, and recieve, visiting rights to the child.

So who would want every other weekend to drop their child off at the house of the man who raped them, or have the rapist come to their house to pick the child up? Daddy's here. ( The Real one, ya know, not the one who is doing all the day to day stuff.)
 
Silentwolfdog said:
Interesting because I was reading newspaper today and it states that there is highest baby being born this year than last 45 years or something.

They think it got something to do with Hispanic population having more babies and of course other groups too. And also that it's probably harder for people to have access to abortion than before or something.

I don't know if that's a good news or not. Last thing we need is a generation that is in poverty and trouble because of lack of a good start and more.

Abortion is one interesting solution because most Americans don't want responsibility of raising unwanted children.

There are still a lot of children in foster care or agencies because no one want them. And yet if one are against abortion, then in the end children still got to pay the price. After all it's much easier for one to say no to abortion than to accept the responsibility taking care of unwanted child from parent who can't even take care of it AT ALL.
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Yes, you has a good point... That's why I support women's choice. It's unfair for children suffers like that... being killed, abuse, neglect, unwanted etc by their parents. That's why I support women's choice but I think they should do something to use sex protection to aviod to have unwanted pregnant.

I also support abortion for medical reasons, too. (life-threatening)... that's why I am pro-choice.


lumbingmi, :ty: for share wonderful new here with us.
 
Banjo said:
Once it is born, it is an infant, then a toddler, then a child, adolescent, adult, senior and such. What I'm saying is that all of these are stages a human being will go through its life-cycle.

An embryo is an unborn human baby. Human life does begin at conception. The DNA is there to start with, then they develop organs and you will detect heartbeats after a few weeks. Many scientists share different views on this subject but you may be surprised to learn that many do believe that human life begins at conception.
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But it isn't born yet and therefore is nothing but a bunch of cells.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Well, we, the Men, were born by the females. Plus, we, the Men, are the one who gave the women the sperm cause them pregnanted.

That's why I rather to have BOTH couple, boyfriend/husband and girlfriend/wife discuss about abortion TOGETHER.

But... Rape... well, that's different story...
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Then we need to keep that choice open for the woman.
 
Plus if you don't like abortion....don't have one.

But don't tell others what they can or can't do.
 
Angel said:
Interesting, didn't you do that in your thread about circumcise? :D


If you have time, please check out this thread that's related to abortion http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/33743-you-pro-life-pro-choice-23.html , maybe you will learn a thing or two what they really do in these abortion clinics :)
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Yes because it's already born.

The embryo/fetus isn't purged from the woman's body yet, so therefore, a woman can have an abortion if she wants to.

I know what they do in abortion clinics they are providing healthcare.
 
Banjo said:
Alarmed that abortion providers are out of reach for the pregnant women? Give me a break, people need to start taking responsibilities for their actions and grow up. If the father isn't willing to get involved, nail him to the wall for child support, or give up the child for adoption.

Way, way too many people rely on abortions to solve their problems.
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good point Banjo !! Alot of mothers have bunches different fathers, collect food stamps and welfare, it will deduct alot of money from our taxes in USA.

Pro and con about abortion issues !
 
Byrdie714 said:
Yes because it's already born.

The embryo/fetus isn't purged from the woman's body yet, so therefore, a woman can have an abortion if she wants to.

I know what they do in abortion clinics they are providing healthcare.
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But Byrdie, the fetus’s heart has already begun to beat by the time the mother misses her period. does this mean another human being who has no say in this matter? and ignoring the fact that there are two bodies that are involved, the mother's and the baby's..
 
doh said:
Prevents genes of rapists from being continued.
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If that was the case, most people from Australia wouldn't be alive today since they are descendant of people that has been convicted guilty of crimes by Britain. Are you willing to say that there are low amount of good people in Australia? Based on your statement, it sounds that way.
 
Secretblend said:
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If that was the case, most people from Australia wouldn't be alive today since they are descendant of people that has been convicted guilty of crimes by Britain. Are you willing to say that there are low amount of good people in Australia? Based on your statement, it sounds that way.
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:nods: and I was speechless when I read his post.
 
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