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thank for posting.
this is a classic piece of propaganda and a fun read..pay close attention..in here you will find fact and fiction, meshed to suit a given ideological construct that of phono-centric colonialism in the guese of a caring helpless mother just wanting to help her son..bu tit reads judging by the language used very different to more discerning eyes



we can start here, its as good as any, again
the bolded language here used was chosen wisely for the effects these words have on readers, daunting, leading, determined, succeeded on that front, all are words that convey a certain emotional response of a struggle, with words to set a line for authority ie leading
there is another way to right this history...

most of those people she states were not convinced were horrified at human experiments for cochlear implants, that were a violation of medical ethics. the determined researches were the ones that simply broke the ethical boundaries regardless of their peers objections, even going to the press to spread false information in the hopes to gain funds for out of bounds work. they covered up and swept under the rug childrens deaths due to CI, while along the way peddling a cure and a miracle of biblical proportions to new parents facing the many headed hydra of the oralist assimilation machine.




this is hardly a fact, given the vast difference in actual results, if we accept this as fact then, facts are as nebulous as falsehoods then, here you have the mask of benevolence rearing its head ...
the miracle and a biblical one too,in religious language for a product CI, and its promised salvation a miracle.




here you have a bald face lie,

its the majority,



above she uses Deaf culture, yet here she uses deaf and hard of hearing community, ill take her at her word and she spent allot of time researching online then i will assume she knows what she did here...in dismissing the majority that do not see CI as a miracle of biblical proportions,



disagreement is here a polite euphemism for what is termed phoncentric colonialism and assimilation,

now below we have some neat propaganda tricks....pay close attention..they steal plays from goebbels play book. so now in order to set the facade of impartiality and objectivity the author who is clearly not objective and is a mother of a violated ci implanted child quotes form a a well received work.



this is true...




this is also true but ada also was a trojan horse..



now we have misleads, and slight of hands....on the author's part..

this is not an assumption we have seen and experienced what has occurred on a vast scale since pre lingual implantation has begun, , we have it documented, in allot of works, i have also cited a number of them on this board, plenty more.



again dismissals, now "genocide" is in quotes, the proper term though is ethnocide.
not just complaints leading academics such as harlan lane who sits on the academie francaise also told the truth of it. he is hearie, and his work the mask of benevolence is a must read even for CI cultists..enjoy further and more important ourselves, we objected we resisted we were stream rolled.



the above is classic propaganda..look close...
if only they would of ignored us, damn....instead no we felt and feel violated, we weren't just ignored, after we made known our opposition we were steamrolled...big difference.

the use of medical and scientific are here on purpose, misleading, its the medical-pedagogo, establishment, the combined system, the "science" supporters actually what ever she means by this were and are heavy stake holder in the very companies who implant.



again bald face LIE
not many that is majority of Deaf,!! that's still a sign we use for it, others are around but that's one sign yes.




THIS IS UTTER RBULLSHIT!
the fact is sign could've been always acquired there is no "a" in her sentence which would be a fact, instead it implies spoken language is language when in FACT its only one mode of language NOT language, the stars succeed for a variety of reasons, CI isnt the primary one..




as good propaganda does now she again sets a misleading tone of impartiality and objectivity...yet the language again is telling alex needed sign language from the day he was born, as every deaf baby does!! NOT might someday!!!!
alex is caught in the snares of the oralist assimilation grind machine...thus socializing with Deaf in his mothers words maybe be someday...that means not today...


so so so so much more levels of good stuff here...

when i return.

What I find most interesting about your post, besides the semantic spins to support your view, is the parts of the article you DIDN'T comment about. The most interesting part of your posts are your omissions.

You're trying to give the impression that the majority of Deaf people in Deaf culture remain anti-CI.

But in order to for that impression to remain intact you couldn't possibly mention that the National Association of Deaf itself amended its official stance on cochlear implants to "very qualified support of the device as one choice among many". You also couldn't mention the interview with Stephen Weiner, the Provost of Gaulladet, about he said about what's going on on campus or the fact that he himself has a cochlear implant.

You can scream propaganda about every informational advert, study, article and opinion piece all you want. Maybe you're even a little bit right. That doesn't change the fact that you yourself sir, are a propagandist.
 
What I find most interesting about your post, besides the semantic spins to support your view, is the parts of the article you DIDN'T comment about. The most interesting part of your posts are your omissions.


hi ambrosia i did state i would return and i will be doing the other half of the article today..
sorry for the delay...
i began the article where i did for a reason ill go into in my other post.


You're trying to give the impression that the majority of Deaf people in Deaf culture remain anti-CI.

nope that's not what i stated...


But in order to for that impression to remain intact you couldn't possibly mention that the National Association of Deaf itself amended its official stance on cochlear implants to "very qualified support of the device as one choice among many".

again i stated i was returning to this article.

but since you brought it up what does "very qualified support" means?


You also couldn't mention the interview with Stephen Weiner, the Provost of Gaulladet, about he said about what's going on on campus or the fact that he himself has a cochlear implant.

again i was returning to the article. but to be clear here as i've stated repeatedly
Im Deaf for 30n years, i know Deaf with CI, (non who choose it mind you), i'm not opposed to CI as the technology..and ive stated that repeatedly...

You can scream propaganda about every informational advert, study, article and opinion piece all you want. Maybe you're even a little bit right. That doesn't change the fact that you yourself sir, are a propagandist.

not screaming here girl, i just pots my opinion that's all...
yeah i know people like you cant stand the idea that others like me just don't share your opinion.
i know...
(smiles)

feel it girl....that burn it gives...deep inside....(smiles)

feel it..
 
I feel that a good bit of what was and wasn't in the interview was because of what the interviewer(s) ask or didn't ask.

maybe, but i'm using the individual's statements, i like philosophy so it perked my interests..
 
My thoughts are 1. The mother is not a creep! 2. It was just a loving mother trying her best. 3. Not matter what she did would not be approved by those who draw a line in the sand and disparage her for not abiding by their mode of thought.

so your entire thought on the article you posted are only related to my statement?

mmm...
interesting
alright cool
 
What I find most interesting about your post, besides the semantic spins to support your view, is the parts of the article you DIDN'T comment about. The most interesting part of your posts are your omissions.

You're trying to give the impression that the majority of Deaf people in Deaf culture remain anti-CI.

But in order to for that impression to remain intact you couldn't possibly mention that the National Association of Deaf itself amended its official stance on cochlear implants to "very qualified support of the device as one choice among many". You also couldn't mention the interview with Stephen Weiner, the Provost of Gaulladet, about he said about what's going on on campus or the fact that he himself has a cochlear implant.

You can scream propaganda about every informational advert, study, article and opinion piece all you want. Maybe you're even a little bit right. That doesn't change the fact that you yourself sir, are a propagandist.

besides me only posting half my critic of the article, and again sorry for wait,
im curious what if anything do you have to state regarding my actual statements?
(that's a rhetorical question i don't expect a sincere answer, it was for others)
 
besides me only posting half my critic of the article, and again sorry for wait,
im curious what if anything do you have to state regarding my actual statements?
(that's a rhetorical question i don't expect a sincere answer, it was for others)

I already stated my opinion on your comments. That they're semantic spin, not sure if you do it on purpose or genuinely don't understand what you've read but whatever, you do spin things to support your arguments. And btw you didn't in fact try to imply, no you straight out claimed, that the majority of Deaf are anti-CI. Your words....."here you have a bald face lie,its the majority,"

Interestingly enough that part of the article she was speaking of the views in the past, not long after CI came out. Yet here you saying "is"- present tense- not "was"-past tense. You're all bout language language language, word choice matters. By using is you're claiming that majority of Deaf IS antic-CI.

You shouldn't expect me to reply to all your posts. I'm not going to ride your merry go round of useless arguing over your own misunderstanding of text and spin. I'm not going to arguing over every line of text. I got shit to do, I don't care that much, and you are not my monkey nor in my circus.

I'd rather post, make my point, then sit back and watch run in circles contradicting yourself.
 
I already stated my opinion on your comments. That they're semantic spin, not sure if you do it on purpose or genuinely don't understand what you've read but whatever, you do spin things to support your arguments. And btw you didn't in fact try to imply, no you straight out claimed, that the majority of Deaf are anti-CI. Your words....."here you have a bald face lie,its the majority,".


yes ambrosia it is bald face lies , did you read the original article? if you did i even provided quotes, go back and read, actually no here it is for you...
this is what she states....

creep mother" said:
As Steve Parton, the father of one of the first children to receive an implant once put it the fact that technology had been invented that could help the deaf hear seemed “a miracle of biblical proportions.”

I found cochlear implantation of children described as child abuse.Many in Deaf culture didn’t agree

the above is a bald face LIE ambrosia it was the majority vast vast vast majority of Deaf that didn't and still DO NOT view CI as a miracle of biblical proportions..

you can take that to the bank girl...


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Interestingly enough that part of the article she was speaking of the views in the past, not long after CI came out. Yet here you saying "is"- present tense- not "was"-past tense. You're all bout language language language, word choice matters. By using is you're claiming that majority of Deaf IS antic-CI.


NO i am stating the vast majority of Deaf do not view CI as a marcile of biblical proportions...
believe it..too..

let me ask you a question. (not that youl sincerely answer, its for others reading)

why do you seem to have it, you can state anything about us? your not Deaf, your not part of our culture, so what it is? really...
should i go to a women's board and start telling them how it is and what women think
yeah....

how far will i get?

thats a sincere question.

your just some women who got a product drilled into her head and now is some missioner for it...that's all...


for me and others this is about something far more then your petty product fetish. this is about our people, and our language and our future.
so spare us your self righteous indignation when you come across others who don't buy into the miracle of biblical proportion schick....
because lady
its getting old..

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You shouldn't expect me to reply to all your posts.

the only i time i engage you is when you mention or quote me. so take a damn hint..

I
I'm not going to ride your merry go round of useless arguing over your own misunderstanding of text and spin. I'm not going to arguing over every line of text. I got shit to do, I don't care that much, and you are not my monkey nor in my circus.

I'd rather post, make my point, then sit back and watch run in circles contradicting yourself.

yeah coming from a women who cant read straight..pls...(laughs)

and so that you don't get any funny ideas...
here it is again for you

THE VAST MAJORITY OF US DEAF, DO NOT VIEW CI AS A MIRACLE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!!
THAT IS
THE VAST MAJORITY!

now by all means

keep chasing your tale in circles..
(skoffs..rolls eyes..)
meh
round, round ,,,round,,,,she goes.....
 
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I'm going to humor you for a moment then I gotta go.

Did I read the article?? Well, I referred to things in the article that you failed to mention soooo maybe? Maybe I did. I'll let you take a moment to think about that.

As Steve Parton, the father of one of the first children to receive an implant once put it the fact that technology had been invented that could help the deaf hear seemed “a miracle of biblical proportions.”

Let's look at this a second as an object lesson of your misinterpreting then the obligatory that follows.

the fact that technology had been invented<<<<< that's the fact, that they had actually invented something that could give deaf people access to sound that's not sisters through amplification

that could help the deaf hear seemed “a miracle of biblical proportions.”<<<<<<that's opinion. They never implied that THAT part is fact. Opinion is never fact.


I know the majority WAS anti-CI, I explicitly stated it. Are you just going to ignore the part where I discussed your use of language to imply present instead of past tense?

And I'm the one with reading comprehension issues?
 
part 2 of hoichis critic of a hit propaganda piece.. this critique will be numbered and be in parts. 1-7, respectively and will be far more detailed then i originally planed as brought to my attention from another poster who longs to read my long rants, i a gentleman will oblige.

i will go through this entire article now line line stopping as needed .so that i'm not accused of being an underachiever, or omitting anything. each line or paragraph i adress will be numbered for easy reference for those who expect from me nothing less....'-)

..thus the following critique is firmly within the realms of classical criticism, i will begin with a jibe to a virgilian twilight, , philosophical criticism, for the post modernist here you will notice a heavy emphasis on foucault and his ideas of technologies of normalization, with some nods to the panopticon and dubards society of the spectacle as it relates to Deaf resistance to the combined system of CI and related entities.
ill take my time, wont hurry up and enjoy every single word i type of it...and post it in controlled drips...

again all apologies for the delay..get a coffee,,get another, and when your at it, get one more..,,,, this will be a long one.

the article being discussed is an opinion piece published in time weekend, but due to the outrage of the brevity of my post yesterday, im going to approach this article not only as a mere opinion piece from a mother hard luck struck with a deaf kid needing to get fixed, but also as statement of an ideological construct for a given purpose and goal in furthering that ideological construct, that construct is phonocentric colonialism, the goal in this article is to further the policies and narratives of CI and its related entities, as we will see, the author even uses words of a military nature in her statements as such. that goal is assimilation, to be waged on a front.
title of piece is

creep mother said:
"Cochlear implants have been controversial in Deaf culture — how would one change my son"

title begins with a rather large understatement, they have been far far more then controversial.

creep mother said:
(1) "On a cold January night, I was making dinner while my three boys played in and around the kitchen.

one may be forgiven in believing you just wandered into a chump change creative writing class, given, its january and cold and it's night, a mother is cooking in the kitchen, three boys are playing. it brings to mind "it was a dark and stormy night"..perhaps "it was the worst of times it was the best times...."given the nature of the piece though perhaps a better opening would be arma virumque cano, but instead i jest, michina virumque cano it more fitting, and this article offers all kinds of useful tricks as ill go into better detail in my analysis

creep mother said:
(2)"I heard my husband Mark’s key in the lock. Jake and Matthew, my two older sons, tore down the long, narrow hall toward the door. “Daddy! Daddy! Daddy!” they cried and flung themselves at Mark before he was all the way inside.

touching...(i reach for tissue)


creep mother said:
(2)He was nearly two and he could say only ‘Mama,’ ‘Dada,’ ‘hello,’ and ‘up.’I turned and looked at Alex, my baby, who was 20 months old. He was still sitting on the kitchen floor, his back to the door, fully engaged in rolling a toy truck into a tower of blocks. A raw, sharp ache hit my gut. Taking a deep breath, I bent down, tapped Alex on the shoulder and, when he looked up, pointed at the pandemonium down the hall. His gaze followed my finger. When he spotted Mark, he leapt up and raced into his arms.

this could've been better constructed, and edited, it sets the scene of course of alexs being deaf and the discovery of it..

creep mother said:
(3)We had been worried about Alex for months. The day after he was born, four weeks early, in April 2003, a nurse appeared at my hospital bedside. I remember her blue scrubs and her bun and that, when she came in, I was watching the news reports from Baghdad, where Iraqis were throwing shoes at a statue of Saddam Hussein and people thought we had already won the war. The nurse told me Alex had failed a routine hearing test

well interesting juxtaposition, the iraq war, saddam hussein's statue, people throwing shoes,,,,,,alex failed a routine tests..

this is one of the mainstays of propaganda tools...here she set the emotional narrative int he reader,,,invasion, war, tyrants, masses of people throwing shoes, her son failed tests...which si the audist initiation ritual as described in valente..

creep mother said:
(4)His ears are full of mucus because he was early,” the nurse explained, “that’s probably all it is.” A few weeks later, when I took Alex back to the audiologist as instructed, he passed a test designed to uncover anything worse than mild hearing loss. Relieved, I put hearing out of my mind.

ah the relief...

creep mother said:
(5)It wasn’t until that January night in the kitchen that Alex was totally and obviously unresponsive to sound. Within weeks, tests revealed a moderate to profound sensorineural hearing loss in both of Alex’s ears. That meant that the intricate and finely tuned cochleas in Alex’s ears weren’t conveying sound the way they should.


so now come to the ideological framework and initiation rituals as tagged and measured as shoulds and shouldn'ts...normal and abnormal,

creep mother said:
(6)Nonetheless, he still had usable hearing. With hearing aids, there was every reason to think Alex could learn to speak and listen. We decided to make that our goal. He had a lot of catching up to do. He was nearly two and he could say only “Mama,” “Dada,” “hello,” and “up.”

in this paragraph we are introduced to audist language that will recur speak and listen seem harmless enough, indeed, bu tit not those single words that's my point here, its how and who uses those words in their ideological frameworks that concern me here. and that agbell with its rebranded lsl,


coffee break
 
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I'm going to humor you for a moment then I gotta go.

oh pls,


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Did I read the article?? Well, I referred to things in the article that you failed to mention soooo maybe? Maybe I did. I'll let you take a moment to think about that.
As Steve Parton, the father of one of the first children to receive an implant once put it the fact that technology had been invented that could help the deaf hear seemed “a miracle of biblical proportions.”

i did not fail to mention anything i even told you and others i wasnt finished and had allot mroe...so
meh

Let's look at this a second as an object lesson of your misinterpreting then the obligatory that follows.

im not misrepresenting anything i included the actual quotes..as i always do..unlike you and others..


the fact that technology had been invented<<<<< that's the fact, that they had actually invented something that could give deaf people access to sound that's not sisters through amplification

that could help the deaf hear seemed “a miracle of biblical proportions.”

THAT I SNOT A FACT.

<<<<<<that's opinion. They never implied that THAT part is fact. Opinion is never fact.

i never stated his opinion was a fact.

I know the majority WAS anti-CI, I explicitly stated it. Are you just going to ignore the part where I discussed your use of language to imply present instead of past tense?

And I'm the one with reading comprehension issues?


again let me ask you a question

how do you have it, you can state anything at all about us or what we believe or hold, or think? your not one of us, your not Deaf, your just some women who got drilled into and is now a product missioner...
thats it..
(shrugs shoulder)

those like you come and go girl like yesterdays fads..

in this woman's article she stated that many Deaf disagreed with that fathers statement that CI was a miracle of biblical proportions..
im sorry to inform you that is a LIE
it was and still IS a majority of Deaf who do NOT believe as that father believed..
if i have to tell you that ever time you spew yoru filth so be it...
this means more to me then a product fetish so..
welcome to the fight..

now..
run along to the massage parlour or where ever you work
see you later..
 
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Creep Mother? You don't even know this woman or her character.

part 2 of hoichis critic of a hit propaganda piece.. this critique will be numbered and be in parts. 1-7, respectively and will be far more detailed then i originally planed as brought to my attention from another poster who longs to read my long rants, i a gentleman will oblige.
sake.

i will go through this entire article now line line stopping as needed .so that i'm not accused of being an underachiever, or omitting anything. each line or paragraph i adress will be numbered for easy reference for those who expect from me nothing less....'-)

..thus the following critique is firmly within the realms of classical criticism, i will begin with a jibe to a virgilian twilight, , philosophical criticism, for the post modernist here you will notice a heavy emphasis on foucault and his ideas of technologies of normalization, with some nods to the panopticon and dubards society of the spectacle as it relates to Deaf resistance to the combined system of CI and related entities.
ill take my time, wont hurry up and enjoy every single word i type of it...and post it in controlled drips...

again all apologies for the delay..get a coffee,,get another, and when your at it, get one more..,,,, this will be a long one.

the article being discussed is an opinion piece published in time weekend, but due to the outrage of the brevity of my post yesterday, im going to approach this article not only as a mere opinion piece from a mother hard luck struck with a deaf kid needing to get fixed, but also as statement of an ideological construct for a given purpose and goal in furthering that ideological construct, that construct is phonocentric colonialism, the goal in this article is to further the policies and narratives of CI and its related entities, as we will see, the author even uses words of a military nature in her statements as such. that goal is assimilation, to be waged on a front.
title of piece is



title begins with a rather large understatement, they have been far far more then controversial.



one may be forgiven in believing you just wandered into a chump change creative writing class, given, its january and cold and it's night, a mother is cooking in the kitchen, three boys are playing. it brings to mind "it was a dark and stormy night"..perhaps "it was the worst of times it was the best times...."given the nature of the piece though perhaps a better opening would be arma virumque cano, but instead i jest, michina virumque cano it more fitting, and this article offers all kinds of useful tricks as ill go into better detail in my analysis



touching...(i reach for tissue)




this could've been better constructed, and edited, it sets the scene of course of alexs being defa and the discovery of it..



well interesting juxtaposition, the iraq war, saddam hussein's statue, people throwing shoes,,,,,,alex failed a routine tests..

this is one of the mainstays of propaganda tools...here she set the emotional narrative int he reader,,,invasion, war, tyrants, masses of people throwing shoes, her son failed tests...which si the audist initiation ritual as described in valente..



ah the relief...




so now come to the ideological framework and initiation rituals as tagged and measured as shoulds and shouldn'ts...normal and abnormal,



in this paragraph we are introduced to audist language that will recur speak and listen seem harmless enough, indeed, bu tit not those single words that's my point here, its how and who uses those words in their ideological frameworks that concern me here. and that agbell with its rebranded lsl,


coffee break
 
It's not a fact that cochlear implants were invented. Interesting. Well that changes everything!!!
 
It's not a fact that cochlear implants were invented. Interesting. Well that changes everything!!!
don't you believe they are miracles?
perhaps
your miracles are invented then?

invented miracles
interesting..
 
Creep Mother? You don't even know this woman or her character.

it is my opinion and not just mine, anyone who drills hole into babies or children heads and implants computers and electrodes into them for the purpose of assimilating them..or pays others to do so..
is a CREEP
thats my and others opinion
obviously yours differs..
 
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Do parents like these feeling means nothing to you?

do the feeling of deaf children DENIED sign language and kept away from other Deaf so that they don't revert back to being Deaf mean anything to you?
 
Those children's feelings will mean more to me than those parents feelings will ever mean to you. Oh I forgot they are don't get to have any.
 
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