God Versus Satan

[Reba]

Yeah, I don't worry either...

All what I do is enjoy my life at present...

Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.

 

[Reba]

Therefore, they should be happy to have eaten the forbidden fruit.

What if they never procreated... and killed each other?

What if . . . .

"What if's" aren't reality. Deal with what did happen, not what could have happened.

 

[Reba]

Yes I second that.

Unlikely.

 

[Reba]

*scratch my head* Did I say anything negative about Jesus? Mocking God?

Yes. You called God a murderer.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

What would they steal? They owned everything on the planet.

Yes they "stole" the fruit from someone's tree which they should not do.

 

[jazzy]

Moses wrote about Adam and Eve in the bible for some reason and he was not there to witness the beginning of humanity. He had no proof of Adam and Eve being created in first place. It reminds me of fairy tale when I first learned about Adam and Eve, just another story to tell, prehap? To make us believe this?

 

[Reba]

Do you mean butchers if it's not just hunters? If yes, then they are the both same because they kill animal for foods, not burnt them.

They kill them, you cook them. No difference.

Yes, you are right about this but accord German health law, most chemicals in meats are banned. A lot of organic meats are everywhere here in Germany, that's why we choose to buy organic meats from the butcher shops. If you know there're chemicals in any meats then not buy them but go to butcher shop to buy organic meat.

What do chemicals have to do with how an animal is killed?

If it makes you feel any better, the animals that were killed for OT sacrifices were organically raised.

Yes, because Jesus know that animal sacrifice is very cruel after saw what the people did in the temple...

You totally missed the point.

Jesus knew that animal sacrifice was insufficient for the forgiveness of sin. He knew that He was the only sacrifice worthy enough for the forgiveness of sin. It had nothing to do with cruelty to animals. :roll:

Therefore the people continue with human and animal sacrifice after Jesus's death because their bibles says so which is really sad.

Anyone who continues to sacrifice animals or humans after the crucifixion of Christ is 100 percent wrong and against the Bible. They are NOT following the Bible or Jesus. Jesus said, "It is finished", and He was the last sacrifice allowed. The Bible does NOT say to continue sacrifices.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes. You called God a murderer.

Because it's a fact accord the bible...

Accord the bible, God killed bad people and firstborns because they don't beleive in him... What should I say? Should I say that God doing right to kill/destory them and then label the people who kill other people as murder/killer, not God?

No way, I treat everyone equal, no matter what... If who kills then he/she is a murder/killer, period... If I visit any threads under Current Events and judge/label the people who kill firstborns so I said the same to God as well because he killed firstborns as well... Why should I treat the people and God differently when they did the same thing?

 

[Reba]

Yes they "stole" the fruit from someone's tree which they should not do.

You posted:

"God told Eve and Adam to take anything what they wants except forbidden tree. It look like that they allow to kill, sex, steal anything what they likes except one forbidden tree..."

You referred to everything except the fruit of the tree.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.

Exactly :

 

[Reba]

Murder is the unlawful killing of a person.

Accord the bible, God killed bad people and firstborns because they don't beleive in him...

They died because Pharaoh made the choice to disobey God and not let the Jews leave Egypt. Blame Pharaoh.

No way, I treat everyone equal, no matter what... If who kills then he/she is a murder/killer...

Really? What about self-defense? What about abortion? What about euthanasia? I think you have a double standard, not an equal standard.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You posted:

"God told Eve and Adam to take anything what they wants except forbidden tree. It look like that they allow to kill, sex, steal anything what they likes except one forbidden tree..."

You referred to everything except the fruit of the tree.

Yes that's right that's what I say because God told them to take anything what they wants except forbidden tree...

I only answer your question.. "What would they steal? They owned everything on the planet." Everything which mean is EVERYTHING including forbidden tree... You should write everything except forbidden tree in your post...

 

[Reba]

What if Eve can't have children or Adam can't be father?

God created Adam and Eve with perfect bodies. He knew they could have children.

You are realllllly stretching to make points.

Do God force Eve to have children if she refuse to have children?

Why would she refuse? She couldn't get affordable day care? She didn't want them to interfere with her career? Her house wasn't big enough? :roll:

Remember, I married for love, not for make babies.

So? What does that have to do with the price of beans?

 

[Reba]

Yes that's right that's what I say because God told them to take anything what they wants except forbidden tree...

I only answer your question.. "What would they steal? They owned everything on the planet." Everything which mean is EVERYTHING including forbidden tree... You should write everything except forbidden tree in your post...

I was replying to your post, which included your quote.

Do I have to re-type everything you quote even when it's already included in the reply?

This is getting ridiculous.

 

[Cheri]

Correct: It's God, not Jesus.

Correction: Jesus is God. Jesus has equal power as God does (His true identity): “My Lord and my God!” When you pray at night, You're really speaking to Jesus. I rest my case.

Maybe, Satan is really a good person...

Sounds like to me, You were already tempted by Satan.

For your information, I personally don't beleive in hell. I will find out myself when I die. I know I won't go hell because I'm good person and don't kill anyone or commit crimes. I won't let anyone to brainwash me and scare me about hell because I know for the sure that I won't go hell

Doesn't matter if you think you're a good person or not, You even labeled God a "murder", even rejected the word of God in favor of your own false revelations and judgments. Your life is in God's hands after death, and God shall make the decision of your fate.

Again, how do you know that your bible is correct and other bible is not correct?

Again, the bible is not fact book but a faith book.

Yep, it's a book of faith, that's why it's called the "holy bible", and the holy bible is a purpose to show you that you can learn about God. We the Christians wholeheartedly believe that the bible is God's personal message to each and everyone of us.

What is your fact? From what source? Are you one of those people who usually indulge themselves in the pleasures of this world and lose interest in the word of God, thinking negative upon God? It's up to you to be blind to the reality, of how our world is now, and for what reason our world is this way it is today as it was in the past tense.

no, it has nothing do with rejecting God's offer but need fact and proof...

God already showed us about him....

* The Holy Bible
* Jesus who was fully God in human form.
* God spoke to Moses
* God spoke to Peter
* God spoke to Mary
There's so much more..... People still deny God, What more do you want? People have even seen Jesus, and Jesus have done miracles, still deny him. It seems impossible for you to ignore the fact that this world is far from being perfect. There is sin in it. Why? because of Adam and Eve, and it carried out to all the human races even today the year of 2007. If it wasn't for Adam and Eve, God would created a perfect world for all of us, we would live for eternity, in good heath, in sinless, and with love. I haven't seen you at least once blamed Adam and Eve for the sins they committed that carried out affect all mankind down through eternity. Only that you blamed and judged God.

Blame, blame, blame Satan... Don't blame Satan but religions themselves who fights over their beliefs

You even making Satan smiling at you right now even laughing, "I got Liebling as my supporter"

But God should warn them about Satan's existance in first place

God did warned them was not to eat of the of the knowledge of good and evil, That's good enough. God wanted them to use their wisdom be wise, and what he says should have go, but Adam and Eve only think of their own selfish thoughts, ate from the knowledge evil, which brought only evil into the world, now Satan is roaming on earth, Thanks to Adam and Eve. Ugh!! Now, we have a free will to do what we want, to believe or we don't believe in God. Or let Satan win again, just like how he won with Adam and Eve, the choice is yours, and yours alone.

 

[Cheri]

I was replying to your post, which included your quote.

Do I have to re-type everything you quote even when it's already included in the reply?

This is getting ridiculous.

Lol, Have you also noticed that we keep repeating ourselves, they asked the same questions repeatedly and we repeatedly giving them the same answers.

 

[Cheri]

Why would she refuse? She couldn't get affordable day care? She didn't want them to interfere with her career? Her house wasn't big enough? :roll:

Good answer.

 

[Mistyrose]

* S I G H*...................

 

[Cheri]

Moses wrote about Adam and Eve in the bible for some reason and he was not there to witness the beginning of humanity. He had no proof of Adam and Eve being created in first place. It reminds me of fairy tale when I first learned about Adam and Eve, just another story to tell, prehap? To make us believe this?

Like I said from the start, God's word sheds the light on human nature, He spoke to Moses. God can communicate the world in any way he wants, He has that power. Nothing more nothing less.

Accord the bible, God killed bad people and firstborns because they don't beleive in him... What should I say? Should I say that God doing right to kill/destory them and then label the people who kill other people as murder/killer, not God?

God as creator to bring judgment on those who sin against Him. God will eventually judge the nations (for their sins) even us. We shall be judge by God.

If God was really a murder, he wouldn't let his only son die for us, who was sinless. We should be punishment for the crime we committed which the crime would be sin, not Jesus but...

"God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" If you believe in Jesus you shall have eternal life.

 

[Maria]

Again, how do you know that your bible is correct and other bible is not correct?

I know the Bible is correct, because it's GOD's letters through the inspired of His men ( John, Matthew, Luke and so forth ). It's God-Speakin' to everyone. Always remember that I BELIEVE in Him and that is HIS Words I trust.

Again, the bible is not fact book but a faith book.

God's Word is always faithful and His Word will never change.