God Versus Satan

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Cheri said:
You can do what you wanna do , and have no morals and then when you die find out that there is a God and burn in hell the rest of your life? Be it. It's not my problem. I tried to help you, I don't really want anyone to be in Hell. I know people will still chose to go that route, I don't even know why would I care why people choose one religion, or non religion, over another? Maybe I do care for you guys, but you guys don't want to see the truth. Since God have created this world, people like yourself had rejected God for so many years to present. People may be ignorant, but I wouldn't say most. Good luck to you, You needed it. :thumb:
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How nice of you to label us as someone who has no morals. The big problem with religion and Christianity is that you take a book that should only be used as a reference for how to be moral and use its stories and teachings as a guide book for how you should treat your fellow man. in a good peaceful loving way most of the time...

and you take this book and accept everything it says in it without any empirical evidence as FACT simply because it was written in the book.

If you didn't accept everything in it as fact your faith would be in question and you could no longer believe.
 
shel90 said:
Maybe Adam tried telling her no but she was too stubborn. Maybe Eve didnt want to be told what to do? :dunno:
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*gasps* :eek:

The first stubborn act performed by a female in history! :Ohno:
 
Cheri said:
He was the first man that God created and the first person that God let him rule the world, and even told him what not to do, what is to do, to take care of his creation, to populate the earth, and to have a relationship with him. Adam had a free will but God only told him one important thing, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But, Adam listened to his wife, Eve and eaten from the tree of evil. Eve was the only one who listened to Satan, when Satan brainwashed Eve by saying she would be like God if she ate the fruit from the tree.
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God let Adam rule the world. Therefore, Adam should be free to do as he wishes without consequences.
 
Cheri said:
See? You are just like Adam, "I don't see what's wrong with eating the forbidden fruit", You just proven my point, It shows you would disobey God just like Adam did, Guess what? You just made Satan the ruler of the world. :(


Satan planted the tree there not God. God did warned Adam. ;)
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Who says that Satan planted that tree?

I thought it was God that created everything?

If Satan really planted it, God could simply remove the trick with the flick of his wrist. ;)
 
Cheri said:
Why should God speak to the world when there were people who are unbelievers Noah was a believer, that's why Jesus spoke to Noah. If God told you the world was gonna end would you listen to him even through you don't believe in God? I'm most positive sure you won't. ;)
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If God actually appeared in front of me, I would believe him.

That's what people need... to see God for themselves. Hearing it from another person is hard to believe.

Why did Noah believe that God was going to flood the world? Because Noah saw God.

The same would apply to other people. All they need is to see God say it himself... not through another person.
 
xentar said:
Sighs, and you call yourself a christian.

The Ten Commandments.
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You said "10 things" instead of "10 Commandments".


If the only way to get to Heaven is through God - what about all the BILLIONS of people who existed before Christ's time who had never heard of God.
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The bible been out way before Jesus came on earth. *Old Testaments* The bible starts off the begin of everything. (The book of Moses, General, Judges, Kings, books of poetry and wisdom and prophets.) *In new Testament* is the historical record of birth and life of Jesus. (The Gospels, Epistles and Revelation.) Don't tell me that nobody had ever heard of God.

The rest of your respond is so ignorant, I'm done debating with you. Have a good day. ;)
 
Cheri said:
The rest of your respond is so ignorant, I'm done debating with you. Have a good day. ;)
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Socrates taught on the principle that being truly wise means realizing how ignorant one really is.
 
Defee said:
Well, thats where i made a mistake somewhere in my other posts,
Im sorry about that. I have NO RIGHT to say if people sin and dont
repent of their sins before they die, they go to hell..I should not
have said that, im sorry! I have NO RIGHT to judge people,
ITS UP TO GOD to judge whether they go to heaven or hell.
Forgive me for my mistake, i was wrong.
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What I mean if God loves all of us, then why will I go to hell even doing all these good things? That is what I mean.
 
Cheri said:
We all do want to see God, But, it's not possible because God already told this one person who wanted to see God himself, God said he couldn't do that because if he did show his presence, the person would not be alive, because God's spirit is very powerful just like a sun, If you want to get as close to a sun, You'll melt, same meaning. But, one day we'll meet Jesus when he comes down to Earth.

But, God did show his presence to mankind even Jesus, Jesus had shown some great miracles, he brought back the dead, he made a blind man see, etc. God gave us free will to believe or don't believe, even through God has been saddened by our sins, but he loves us so much and never gives up on us, that's why he let his son Jesus who die for our sins, If you believe in Jesus who was crucifixion, that could just tell you just about how much love God has for us all. ;)
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I thought God could do anything. He could reduce his "supreme" image to a visually friendly image to allow his people to see him.

Therefore, that is the Bible's excuse for why we can't see God. ;)
 
VamPyroX said:
Who says that Satan planted that tree?

I thought it was God that created everything?

If Satan really planted it, God could simply remove the trick with the flick of his wrist. ;)
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I apology You're right, I double checked, God planted the tree of life in the Garden of Eden. Anyone eating the fruit of this tree of life would gain eternal life. He also planted the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil; anyone eating of that bad tree would die. God warned Adam and Eve not to eat of the evil tree, but the devil being crafty deceived Eve into thinking that she could become like God. God has said, "You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die."

Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit from the evil tree, then they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, They eventually died, and also their children died, just like God said from the begin. ;)
 
xentar said:
The #1 Rule for Effective Prophecy Writing: Never set a date.

That way, you can never be wrong and the end will come! /sarcasm

If I were a parent, and had 5 children. Would I kill them all because they chose their own path? No, any rational loving parent wouldn't.

Would you kill your own kids if they didn't follow your set of guidelines? No of course you wouldn't, unless of course you were insane.

Hrm.
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Rule #2: Make your prophecies vague. That way, they can be translated into anything. ;)
 
Cheri said:
I apology You're right, I double checked, God planted the tree of life in the Garden of Eden. Anyone eating the fruit of this tree of life would gain eternal life. He also planted the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil; anyone eating of that bad tree would die. God warned Adam and Eve not to eat of the evil tree, but the devil being crafty deceived Eve into thinking that she could become like God. God has said, "You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die."

Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit from the evil tree, then they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, They eventually died, and also their children died, just like God said from the begin. ;)
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I would rather eat from the tree of knowledge... after all, knowledge is power.
 
xentar said:
Hrm, that's strange. Here you are going on about how we need christ, and without christ things would be so much worse. I'll take marriage for example.

Any one who choses Christ is more wiser than any one who choses evil. Know why ? Because Christ is their " lifejacket " from goin' to hell. In hell, there's no " life ". It's why people out there need Christ as their " lifejackets ".

Christians believe they hold the monopoly on family values and morals, but studies now prove that they divorce at a MUCH higher rate than Atheists.

Who invented " divorce " ? Whose idea was it from ? Of course, it was from the Satan. Satan works VERY HARD at breakin' up the families. Reason : They don't go to church, or work things out together by readin' the bible to seek Christ in their hearts, and so on. Satan hates family values and morals. Satan loves to prostituin' christians by destroyin' their morals... thinkin' it is okay to do drugs or gamblin' or abuse or drinkin' and all bad things. THAT bad things caused the marriage to break up. SINS are the reasons behind it all.

Link: Atheist divorce rate is Lower than Christian

Inevitably, someone will come in here whining about how this is false or made up, so the person who created the page made sure to chose an article which is:

1. Adequately (and heavily) Sourced.
2. From a site which believes in Religious Freedom

Also, he's an ordained Minister, so he has no Atheistic agenda.
Eat your heart out.
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Atheists don't wear lifejackets and they can eat their hearts out.
 
But the fact still remain the same, Atheist divorce rate is lower than Christian and christ isn't a part of an atheist's life. :giggle:


Leave the lifejackets alone and let's talk about facts and figures. Hard cold evident. No more Jesus illustrations. (as I like to call it)


Right now I'm too lazy to get into other topics besides marriage. Lucky you.
 
VamPyroX said:
I thought God could do anything. He could reduce his "supreme" image to a visually friendly image to allow his people to see him.
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He did. That was Jesus.
 
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