God Versus Satan

[xentar]

Yes, the end can happen soon. This time, it won't be flood but total destruction.

The #1 Rule for Effective Prophecy Writing: Never set a date.

That way, you can never be wrong and the end will come! /sarcasm

If I were a parent, and had 5 children. Would I kill them all because they chose their own path? No, any rational loving parent wouldn't.

Would you kill your own kids if they didn't follow your set of guidelines? No of course you wouldn't, unless of course you were insane.

Hrm.

 

[shel90]

You wonder why everything is worse? Its because of evilness,
caused by evil people. 9/11 happened because of evil people, it was the
Terrorists, you know that. Oklahoma City bombing
caused by one single person and he was evil..i could go on and on and
they all were evil.
Do not blame God, period. Remember, we all were born sinners!

I work with deaf children, raise my children, give them attention, show respect for strangers, my friends, and family, donate to charity from time to time, pay my bills, dont steal, dont kill other people, dont abuse anyone or anything, and many more good things that I do in my life so if I am a nonbeliever, I go to hell?

 

[xentar]

You wonder why everything is worse? Its because of evilness,
caused by evil people. 9/11 happened because of evil people, it was the
Terrorists, you know that. Oklahoma City bombing
caused by one single person and he was evil..i could go on and on and
they all were evil.
Do not blame God, period. Remember, we all were born sinners!

Do you know you are living in one of the safest era ever? Too hard to believe?

I'll tell you what, instead of citing my source, why don't you cite your source and convince me that everything has gotten worse. I'd like to see where you're getting your information from.

 

[christlovedeaf]

people going to hell is not base on what you do. Will you invite a person who has fatal radiation that can spread around in your home? Sin is similar, sin itself is fatal "radiation", been said on many times, disciples asked, then who can enter, since not one person made it, Jesus said, nothing is impossible with God. What does He saying? Look at Nicodemous, and asking Jesus how we get to Heaven, and even religious leader isn't far enough to get to Heaven, but yet, short coming. It is not what you do, like I said, it is sin stain in all of us. That is why Jesus came from Heaven to become human like us to die to take our place upon Himself.

 

[Maria]

Yes JW people told me the same thing what you said here. I asked JW people... Now I am asking you the same question.

FYI, I am not JW. You've asked me the same question before and I gave you the same answers repeatly. I don't change anythin'.

Is it okay to let poor and innoncent people including babies/children kill 9/11, bombs, murder, war, child abuse, killer, etc... killed because God let Satan remain alive and want to test us either we faith him or Satan. Like what Vampy said "Gambling us and our lives"...

Well, since the Bible tells its history about killin', abuses, murders, and all - it makes no differences as it applies today. As of today, it applied the same thing what the Bible told since AFTER Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. God sees all the same from the beginnin' until today - no differences. All the sins ( killin', abuses, murders, and etc., etc. ) are repeatly the same thing over and over and over. I don't agree with Vampy about " gamblin' us and our lives ". That's his opinions the way he sees it. That's his flesh's view, not spiritual's view... just like you.

A lot of people have good heart for poor children, homeless, etc... but they have to die because they are too busy to help poor children, homeless, etc. to neglect or no time or not beleive in worship to God or Bible? I´m for who help the poor people in REAL world than God and bible all the time.

I beleive in see and help the people in REAL LIFE.

Yes, they have good hearts for the poor children, homeless, and everythin' BUT, that's NOT what God is expectin' them to do, because God looks at their hearts, NOT by their works. Are they acceptin' Christ as their personal Saviour ? Or are they just focusin' on helpin' people in time of needs without Christ in their lives ? There's LOTS of people out there who NEEDS Christ in their lives and it is the christian people's responsibility to share the gospel with them....so, they can experience their intimate relationship with God with great joy. It also can help them to prosper by gettin' job, or good things in life through Christ via attendin' church for spiritual grow. Through Christ, there's ALWAYS prosperin'. Without Christ, there's no prosperin'.

 

[Yiffzer]

The #1 Rule for Effective Prophecy Writing: Never set a date.

That way, you can never be wrong and the end will come! /sarcasm

If I were a parent, and had 5 children. Would I kill them all because they chose their own path? No, any rational loving parent wouldn't.

Would you kill your own kids if they didn't follow your set of guidelines? No of course you wouldn't, unless of course you were insane.

Hrm.

damn, i must be insane. or i must be radically extreme, dude. surf's up!

 

[Mistyrose]

I work with deaf children, raise my children, give them attention, show respect for strangers, my friends, and family, donate to charity from time to time, pay my bills, dont steal, dont kill other people, dont abuse anyone or anything, and many more good things that I do in my life so if I am a nonbeliever, I go to hell?

Well, thats where i made a mistake somewhere in my other posts,
Im sorry about that. I have NO RIGHT to say if people sin and dont
repent of their sins before they die, they go to hell..I should not
have said that, im sorry! I have NO RIGHT to judge people,
ITS UP TO GOD to judge whether they go to heaven or hell.
Forgive me for my mistake, i was wrong.

 

[xentar]

Yes, they have good hearts for the poor children, homeless, and everythin' BUT, that's NOT what God is expectin' them to do, because God looks at their hearts, NOT by their works. Are they acceptin' Christ as their personal Saviour ? Or are they just focusin' on helpin' people in time of needs without Christ in their lives ? There's LOTS of people out there who NEEDS Christ in their lives and it is the christian people's responsibility to share the gospel with them....so, they can experience their intimate relationship with God with great joy. It also can help them to prosper by gettin' job, or good things in life through Christ via attendin' church for spiritual grow. Through Christ, there's ALWAYS prosperin'. Without Christ, there's no prosperin'.

Hrm, that's strange. Here you are going on about how we need christ, and without christ things would be so much worse. I'll take marriage for example.

Christians believe they hold the monopoly on family values and morals, but studies now prove that they divorce at a MUCH higher rate than Atheists.

Link: Atheist divorce rate is Lower than Christian

Inevitably, someone will come in here whining about how this is false or made up, so the person who created the page made sure to chose an article which is:

1. Adequately (and heavily) Sourced.
2. From a site which believes in Religious Freedom

Also, he's an ordained Minister, so he has no Atheistic agenda.
Eat your heart out.

 

[xentar]

people going to hell is not base on what you do. Will you invite a person who has fatal radiation that can spread around in your home? Sin is similar, sin itself is fatal "radiation", been said on many times, disciples asked, then who can enter, since not one person made it, Jesus said, nothing is impossible with God. What does He saying? Look at Nicodemous, and asking Jesus how we get to Heaven, and even religious leader isn't far enough to get to Heaven, but yet, short coming. It is not what you do, like I said, it is sin stain in all of us. That is why Jesus came from Heaven to become human like us to die to take our place upon Himself.

So how do you get rid of this "radiation"? You kill 'em!

You kill em all! Kill Kill Kill.

That's a lot of blood spilled.

Good thing medical scientists aren't anything like God. They don't kill them. They study and create medicine to cure them. God rather take the easy way out and..well.... kill 'em!

 

[Mistyrose]

Do you know you are living in one of the safest era ever? Too hard to believe?

I'll tell you what, instead of citing my source, why don't you cite your source and convince me that everything has gotten worse. I'd like to see where you're getting your information from.

Im not sure what you are talking about...unless you are talking
about securitiness of our courtry? I guess so far, so good, it is.
What i was talking about above was that had happened several
years ago, i know. I was replying to Liebling that she was saying
that the World was getting worse and all and i was telling her it
was all because of evilness of people is all.
I dont know what you mean about getting my information from...
that is strange...what do you think???? Im not blind, LOL! From
TV, Newspaper, etc......

 

[christlovedeaf]

So how do you get rid of this "radiation"? You kill 'em!

You kill em all! Kill Kill Kill.

That's a lot of blood spilled.

Good thing medical scientists are anything like God. They don't kill them. They study and create medicine to cure them. God rather take the easy way out and..well.... kill 'em!

How to destroy and kill? The Blood of Christ, which save people's lives. Satan is a radiation spreader to kill the lives of the people.

 

[xentar]

How to destroy and kill? The Blood of Christ, which save people's lives. Satan is a radiation spreader to kill the lives of the people.

You're forgeting an important point. Satan does not actually kill.

Translation: Satan does not use his - theoretical -powers to take life away from a human being. He does not do the actual spilling of the blood.

When the "end times" come, Satan isn't going to kill me. It's God who going to kill me using his powers.

Am I correct or am I wrong?

 

[xentar]

Im not sure what you are talking about...unless you are talking
about securitiness of our courtry? I guess so far, so good, it is.
What i was talking about above was that had happened several
years ago, i know. I was replying to Liebling that she was saying
that the World was getting worse and all and i was telling her it
was all because of evilness of people is all.
I dont know what you mean about getting my information from...
that is strange...what do you think???? Im not blind, LOL! From
TV, Newspaper, etc......

*refrains from exploding*

The world is living in one of the safest era than say 50 years ago, or 100 years ago, or even 1,000 years ago.

It seems so bad because you get real time information on stuff happening via tv. Naturally you only see the bad things happening on tv.

If you're going to claim and tell people that the world has gotten worse, you need to cite your source.

aka.... evident. proof. a friggin' pie graph even.

 

[christlovedeaf]

You're forgeting an important point. Satan does not actually kill.

Translation: Satan does not use his - theoretical -powers to take life away from a human being. He does not do the actual spilling of the blood.

When the "end times" come, Satan isn't going to kill me. It's God who going to kill me using his powers.

Am I correct or am I wrong?

You looking at your physical perspective, this is about your soul. Like Jesus said, "The devil comes to steal, to destroy and to kill, but I(Jesus) come to give life and life more abundantly", meaning spiritual alive.

 

[xentar]

You looking at your physical perspective, this is about your soul. Like Jesus said, "The devil comes to steal, to destroy and to kill, but I(Jesus) come to give life and life more abundantly", meaning spiritual alive.

Let's assume "the end / Armageddon" is a physical perspective as well. My question still stand....

who's going to do the actual killing.

God or Satan?

 

[Mistyrose]

*refrains from exploding*

The world is living in one of the safest era than say 50 years ago, or 100 years ago, or even 1,000 years ago.

It seems so bad because you get real time information on stuff happening via tv. Naturally you only see the bad things happening on tv.

If you're going to claim and tell people that the world has gotten worse, you need to cite your source.

aka.... evident. proof. a friggin' pie graph even.

Ok..calm down!..lol!
Just help me understand, please! tell me where to get the source,
proof, whatever. Help me out, ok? thanks!!!

 

[Askjo]

Who killed more people in the Bible?

Whoa...

God...

A murderer?

Well, the Satan killed all the people, do you that? HOW? Remember the story of Adam and Eve? After the Satan tempted Eve, the Satan got the victory over them because they became sinners after they ate the forbidden fruit and they were on the way to die. When Adam and Eve had many children, then their adult children got married and had many children. They died. That is obvious to show that the Satan WANTS ALL humanity to DIE. Which is worse? God or Satan? The Bible said the Satan is a MURDERER. Therefore the Satan is the WORST one!!!

 

[Cheri]

You can do what you wanna do , and have no morals and then when you die find out that there is a God and burn in hell the rest of your life? Be it. It's not my problem. I tried to help you, I don't really want anyone to be in Hell. I know people will still chose to go that route, I don't even know why would I care why people choose one religion, or non religion, over another? Maybe I do care for you guys, but you guys don't want to see the truth. Since God have created this world, people like yourself had rejected God for so many years to present. People may be ignorant, but I wouldn't say most. Good luck to you, You needed it.

Liebling, You stated before you believe in Jesus, now looking at your posts, It sure does not even show that you do. You mocking God, even labeled him "murder". tsk tsk!!

 

[christlovedeaf]

Let's assume "the end / Armageddon" is a physical perspective as well. My question still stand....

who's going to do the actual killing.

God or Satan?

Think about the other side of POV, Why Jesus? Why Satan hates God? Why did Jesus die on the cross? What is the purpose of the cross? Why Satan hates that? He leading the killing? Obviously, not God. Think about it for a moment, mommy and daddy hates me, bec they punish me for playing on the street, I have my right to play on the street, why mommy and daddy punish me for that. That is not love. That is what kids sees, same with people look at about God.

 

[xentar]

Think about the other side of POV, Why Jesus? Why Satan hates God? Why did Jesus die on the cross? What is the purpose of the cross? Why Satan hates that? He leading the killing? Obviously, not God. Think about it for a moment, mommy and daddy hates me, bec they punish me for playing on the street, I have my right to play on the street, why mommy and daddy punish me for that. That is not love. That is what kids sees, same with people look at about God.

Jesus H. Christ! You're going around in circles!

I ask a simple question and you can't even answer it in a simple manner.

Who does the actual killing when the end comes.

God or Satan?