FBI wants to access your online etc.

TXgolfer said:
As stated earlier these actions were provided for by a court order. It is even in the title of the article. Sensenbrenner, the author of the Patriot Act, says this action was not the intended purpose.
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That's always been my biggest problem with acts like this. To much freedom to take the act further and exploit it's vagueness.
 
shel90 said:
I am not worried. I got nothing to hide. I think they want to filter out the terrorists who are U.S. citizens not to spy on ordinary people. Maybe if they intercepted some messages between the Boston Marathon terrorists before the marathon, this tragedy would have never happened.

I am just a nobody on their radar.
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The Highlander said:
Why worry about it? Are you hide something from FBI as drug, crime, cover up the murder? :giggle:

For me? I don't care.
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you should care. for example - let's assume you're applying for a government job. they performed a detailed background check on you and found that you have participated in questionable topic from online forum. and also found out that you have surfed the net to read more about pressure cooker bomb in detail.

they don't care how or what you will explain about it. they rejected you. that's the problem. you may also be subjected to additional scrutiny such as when you travel, file a tax, etc. that is illegal and you should care about it.
 
The Highlander said:
Why worry about it? Are you hide something from FBI as drug, crime, cover up the murder? :giggle:

For me? I don't care.
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The more you let them stomp on the constitution the more rights we will loose. You may not care about this infraction but what about the next one? "death by 1000 cuts" They take a little more each time and people get used to the way things are slowly.
 
Let's say you're a college student majoring in political science, communication, journalism, or similar applying for internship at government agency.

1. You borrowed a book from public library - The Catcher in the Rye.
2. You have surfed the net quite extensively about school shootings.
3. You surfed the net for guns.
4. You participated in heated online debate about government.
5. You made a few phone calls to unknown source in questionable country (Russia, Kenya, etc.).

you're highly qualified for it with impressive background - good grades, good recommendation from professors, etc. but you think you're gonna get this internship?

here's an innocent explanation -

1. It was for your psychology 102 course because you had to write a 5-pages essay to discuss about how a literature can influence a deranged man into killing a legend.
2. You're a political science/journalism major so naturally - you are thorough in your work and you make sure you know everything about it before you engage in debate/discussion/paper about it.
3. Same as #2. You want to learn more about firearm because you want to know exactly what makes gun an "assault weapon"
4. Don't we all?
5. You have a family member living in Russia/Kenya/etc. and you keep in touch once in a while with him/her.
 
caz12 said:
as i understand it certain words that are used like for instance 'semtex' automatic pick up of your number name etc
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For the word semtex, maybe before like 5-10+ years ago, but I seriously doubt it today. There are a lot of games these days that use semtex in them and even 7-12 year olds are talking about it.
 
shel90 said:
If that's the case, then they failed to used that valuable information to prevent this tragedy. However, I take what the media says with a grain of salt. The media says a lot of shit about teachers failing students but they don't know what really goes on in the classroom. Same with government agencies. We really don't know what happened. It is hard to decipher what's factual and what's not.
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I agree it's hard to know what to believe that on the news and we're never really given all the facts as the news is controlled by the government.
 
Just think about all the things our government may be doing that you don't know about...:shock:
 
naisho said:
For the word semtex, maybe before like 5-10+ years ago, but I seriously doubt it today. There are a lot of games these days that use semtex in them and even 7-12 year olds are talking about it.
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maybe not that but not a clue what is out there...been a lot of problems in uk the press got access to peoples voice messages,so maybe they get to them same way as press do.
i was wrong about fbi they got place in wales as have m5 in states
 
Jiro said:
no we didn't. they gave us a piece of vague intel that led to nowhere. in other word.... a vague piece of intel among millions of other irrelevant/relevant pieces on daily basis. basically.... everyday - an intel department receives one giant haystack of all kinds and has to filter out which is relevant or a viable threat and then link it to previous haystack from yesterday or last week or last year or whenever. and beside.... the Russian didn't share much.

repost from other thread - http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/111360-tsarnaev-brothers-investigation-3.html#post2181017
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It was enough for SA to deny entry. But that is another thread. Don't want to take this thread off topic.
 
Calvin said:
Unfortunately, there is no such thing as privacy with the technology we have... Big Brother is watching everywhere. If someone has nothing to hide, then they wouldn't worry about having a target on their back. :)
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The problem is, where do they go from here. If people accept this, they will go further.
 
soulchill said:
Just think about all the things our government may be doing that you don't know about...:shock:
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actually - government is the least of the concern most of the time regarding privacy and knowing everything about you. the government has limited resource and access to private information because of Constitution and legal issues. notice that the government has to get a court order to collect the information and they can obtain only very limited part of the information.

so who should we be more concerned about? the companies. they actually know a hell lot more details about you than the government does. the companies know what you buy and where, your eating habit, tv habit, driving habit, credit card habit, etc. every single little thing... they know it and they make tons of money from it. that's why you're living in a luxury with bunch of stores near you and tv with hundreds of channels. they made tv shows like American Idols and create better entertainment value to sports for your liking. they know it because they have been monitoring you for years.

the worst part? in America - we have a shoddy privacy laws for companies.
 
from what i understand the fbi are checking every other country but not america...why americans privacy more important than other peoples..fbi should be looking into own country
 
caz12 said:
from what i understand the fbi are checking every other country but not america...why americans privacy more important than other peoples..fbi should be looking into own country
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Our Constitution limits the way the FBI and other government agencies can legally check on Americans or others within our borders.
 
Jiro said:
Obama: No one listening to your calls - CNN.com pretty much confirms our posts.
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Chilling.

Quite ironic that we are having to find out what is going on from foreign newspapers when we have the "most transparent administration ever" in the White House.

I think it would be silly to believe they are telling the truth now. Zerohedge had a blog today about the NSA violations in 2009 where they went beyond basic info.
 
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