FBI wants to access your online etc.

[Jiro]

interesting pix from my friend's

 

[Lau2046]

You are very funny because you think FBI is anywhere so they can arrest/detain Edward Snowden.

It isn't true because FBI can't do anything outside of US.

The FBI isn't the only agency in federal service. The CIA can and does travel. Remember back in the day when Nazi Adolf Eichmann was kidnapped by the Israelis in Argentina? They didn't care about any International laws. He was there, they went after him. The U.S. can do the same. It's up to Obama to determine how much he's willing to lose. The fact that Russia and China have flipped Obama the bird shows how little respect they have for Hollywood's president. Maybe if spent less time on late night entertainment shows and more time in the White House it would have been a different story, but clearly, no one fears Obama. Yet the CIA remains to do the dirty work, and if need be, they'll cross International lines and remove him with or without the country's consent. We do it all the time in the war on terrorism and this young man is opening the door for that...I feel for his family. He should have listened to his father. We may not know where this young man is but you can be sure, the White House knows his whereabouts.

 

[Foxrac]

The FBI isn't the only agency in federal service. The CIA can and does travel. Remember back in the day when Nazi Adolf Eichmann was kidnapped by the Israelis in Argentina? They didn't care about any International laws. He was there, they went after him. The U.S. can do the same. It's up to Obama to determine how much he's willing to lose. The fact that Russia and China have flipped Obama the bird shows how little respect they have for Hollywood's president. Maybe if spent less time on late night entertainment shows and more time in the White House it would have been a different story, but clearly, no one fears Obama. Yet the CIA remains to do the dirty work, and if need be, they'll cross International lines and remove him with or without the country's consent. We do it all the time in the war on terrorism and this young man is opening the door for that...I feel for his family. He should have listened to his father. We may not know where this young man is but you can be sure, the White House knows his whereabouts.

I think it is illegal now.

It is great opportunity for other countries to break the relation with US and make us look bad.

I believe that Edward Snowden will never forcefully return to US - he's remain in Russia and he has chance to take an asylum if he requested

 

[Jiro]

I think it is illegal now.

that is kinda irrelevant.

It is great opportunity for other countries to break the relation with US and make us look bad.

I believe that Edward Snowden will never forcefully return to US - he's remain in Russia and he has chance to take an asylum if he requested

a foreign relationship would be a big issue when it comes to this kind of thing. it is tricky. kinda like an awkward/uncomfortable relationship between American and Chinese governments because of hacking issue.

 

[Lau2046]

I think it is illegal.

Cry me a river....all countries play dirty. Do you think it was legal for Israel to go into Argentina and remove the Nazi? Do you think it's legal when Pakistan's intelligence agency arranges the dismissal of a government? Did you think it was legal when Argentina's Carlos Menem took control of the country before the first democratically elected president's term was over?

We take terrorists into Egypt because we can question with torture on Egyptian soil and it's a way to get around our own laws. I remember when this came out, people were "shocked" we did this, but how do people think we get information? You think terrorists have a change of heart, feel bad about what they do? Hell no....and what you think they're doing to our POWs....feeding them ceral with whole milk like home?

This man won't come back without a fight, but remember this, even Bin Laden couldn't hide from the U.S. forever - and we didn't enter Pakistan legally to do that either...not that anyone in this country cared....

 

[Foxrac]

that is kinda irrelevant.

a foreign relationship would be a big issue when it comes to this kind of thing. it is tricky. kinda like an awkward/uncomfortable relationship between American and Chinese governments because of hacking issue.

What you means about irrelevant on CIA kidnap in other countries?

 

[Lau2046]

kinda like an awkward/uncomfortable relationship between American and Chinese governments because of hacking issue.

The Chinese have been hacking the U.S. probably as long if not longer than we've been hacking into their system...and the British have probably been doing it longer than anyone.

 

[Foxrac]

Cry me a river....all countries play dirty. Do you think it was legal for Israel to go into Argentina and remove the Nazi? Do you think it's legal when Pakistan's intelligence agency arranges the dismissal of a government? Did you think it was legal when Argentina's Carlos Menem took control of the country before the first democratically elected president's term was over?

We take terrorists into Egypt because we can question with torture on Egyptian soil and it's a way to get around our own laws. I remember when this came out, people were "shocked" we did this, but how do people think we get information? You think terrorists have a change of heart, feel bad about what they do? Hell no....and what you think they're doing to our POWs....feeding them ceral with whole milk like home?

This man won't come back without a fight, but remember this, even Bin Laden couldn't hide from the U.S. forever - and we didn't enter Pakistan legally to do that either...not that anyone in this country cared....

Cry me a river? I'm not surprised about you have bitter with me.

The situation about remove Nazi from Argentina became past now and we are not same as 1960's now.

Edward Snowden's case is very different, anyway.

 

[Foxrac]

The Chinese have been hacking the U.S. probably as long if not longer than we've been hacking into their system...and the British have probably been doing it longer than anyone.

Edward Snowden said that US hacking the China too.

 

[Lau2046]

Cry me a river? I'm not surprised about you have bitter with me.

The situation about remove Nazi from Argentina became past now and we are not same as 1960's now.

Edward Snowden's case is very different, anyway.

You think everything that happened yesterday is history. If Israel had to do it again to this country to grab a war criminal and we didn't hand him over, they would. If we had to invade a country to kill a terrorist, we would. You know very little about the federal government for someone who claims to know a lot.

 

[Jiro]

The Chinese have been hacking the U.S. probably as long if not longer than we've been hacking into their system...and the British have probably been doing it longer than anyone.

the difference is... Chinese hacking was very public and widespread. It's embarrassing and awkward.

 

[Foxrac]

You think everything that happened yesterday is history. If Israel had to do it again to this country to grab a war criminal and we didn't hand him over, they would. If we had to invade a country to kill a terrorist, we would. You know very little about the federal government for someone who claims to know a lot.

I'm not surprised that you got wrong idea about me, including your posts in other thread.

Edward Snowden has some of unique and not all styles will be same, anyway.

 

[Lau2046]

the difference is... Chinese hacking was very public and widespread. It's embarrassing and awkward.

They didn't think it was...but Britan certainly surprised both the U.S. and the Chinese...not an easy thing to do...but then they've been spying on Argentina and Ireland forever so they've really perfected it to almost an art form.

 

[Jiro]

What you means about irrelevant on CIA kidnap in other countries?

of course it is illegal to enter a country and kidnap somebody but that's hardly an issue in here. everybody knows they can't do anything about it once it happened. they will just be vocal about it and wag their finger at us. that's it. that's why Ecuador is flexing its skinny man muscle at us by "harboring" Snowden. If the agents got caught... well that's a different story and that will be extremely touchy if they know who the agents were working for.... hence "Black Ops" - a complete denial and disavowal.

I'm not surprised by Ecuador's reaction. Latin America has long been very critical toward American government like Chavez.

 

[Foxrac]

of course it is illegal to enter a country and kidnap somebody but that's hardly an issue in here. everybody knows they can't do anything about it. they will just be vocal about it and wag their finger at us. that's it. that's why Ecuador is flexing its skinny man muscle at us by "harboring" Snowden.

I'm not surprised. Latin America has long been very critical toward American government like Chavez.

Yes, I understand now.

Yes, same here about Latin America.

 

[Lau2046]

I'm not surprised that you got wrong idea about me, including your posts in other thread.

Edward Snowden has some of unique and not all styles will be same, anyway.

There's nothing unique about a traitor and that's all he is...a frightened young man singing like a canary and without a country. He doesn't have style...just luck and soon that too will run out. If he was so important, the Chinese and Russia would never have let him go...but they see him as being totally useless and dead weight....and they didn't even make any effort to keep him. Says a lot....

 

[Jiro]

They didn't think it was...but Britan certainly surprised both the U.S. and the Chinese...not an easy thing to do...but then they've been spying on Argentina and Ireland forever so they've really perfected it to almost an art form.

yep. I think the entire world is surprised and that's not a good news especially for British government now that everybody knows.

 

[Jiro]

Cry me a river? I'm not surprised about you have bitter with me.

The situation about remove Nazi from Argentina became past now and we are not same as 1960's now.

Edward Snowden's case is very different, anyway.

no. Snowden's case is exactly same as anybody's case. It's just a political game. and 007.

 

[Lau2046]

of course it is illegal to enter a country and kidnap somebody but that's hardly an issue in here. everybody knows they can't do anything about it once it happened. they will just be vocal about it and wag their finger at us. that's it. that's why Ecuador is flexing its skinny man muscle at us by "harboring" Snowden. If the agents got caught... well that's a different story and that will be extremely touchy if they know who the agents were working for.... hence "Black Ops" - a complete denial and disavowal.

I'm not surprised by Ecuador's reaction. Latin America has long been very critical toward American government like Chavez.

This is about making a statement to Obama...the Latin Americans would love nothing more to see him squirm...they could care less about Snowden.

 

[Jiro]

This is about making a statement to Obama...the Latin Americans would love nothing more to see him squirm...they could care less about Snowden.

Snowden has absolutely nothing to offer to Ecuador that would give Ecuador an edge over America or its allies.

so yea - this is just a silly little political game that will be quickly cycle out of 6pm news and replaces with probably Kim Kardashian's baby or Eva Mendes' "sex tape"