EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

[Cloggy]

Pardon my typo.

Not really, you need to give me more explainations...

Well, ask me the question then!

 

[starrygaze]

Didn't know we had gender problems around here...

topic off

hey i know here has one big problem alldeaf can't identify which gender. I don't blame AD and love deaf forum. they thought i was female because they looked at my signature and avatar. i changed my own and now my signature shows I am man!

Why dont they modify or add codes into forum because they are linux geeks who know who to change forum. I am mac geek. Unix remains its strong.

 

[Y]

You are so funny.. I am female!! I dont have hotdog!! what more I am a widow,,,, Old Hag

Hey SxyPorkie !!

 

[Fragmenter]

Well, ask me the question then!

Exactly.

 

[Fragmenter]

Your English spelling is atrocious. I wasn't going to say anything about it until you attacked my reading skills.

I pardon his spelling since he has to keep track of three languages and one signed language. Geez, THREE separate languages! That is a lot of words to memorize and put together to form a sentence! The United Kingdom spells words differently than we do and I suspect he's influenced by the UK.

But the point is he writes and COMPREHENDS English.

 

[Mookie]

Well, ask me the question then!

How does gesture work for you to understand? Can regular people understand gestures even thought they never learnt about deaf culture?

Facial expression?

Body language?

What is differenet between sign language and oralism?

Would CI people accept hearing impaired status? If they do not accept HI status, are they losing their identify in deaf culture/deaf soceity?

Why would CI society enjoy getting free CC on tv or using Internet relay service that they do not want to be misunderstood commmuniation?

How comes CI society does not get along with deafies with ASL? Are they ingoring them so that they could climb rapidly in their careers?

Cloggy, I do not think you have much to explain whole Deaf Culture/Society....

 

[Mookie]

Exactly.

You may have to help your buddy to answer...

 

[Cloggy]

I pardon his spelling since he has to keep track of three languages and one signed language. Geez, THREE separate languages! That is a lot of words to memorize and put together to form a sentence! The United Kingdom spells words differently than we do and I suspect he's influenced by the UK.

But the point is he writes and COMPREHENDS English.

Fragmenter, je hebt helemaal gelijk.
Fragmenter, du hast fullstendig recht
Fragmenter, vous comprenez. (Only basic skills)
Fragmenter, det stemmer det du sier.

Fragmenter, you are absolutely right.

(I could do all of it in fingerspelling, but that would be bragging.. )

 

[Cloggy]

How does gesture work for you to understand? Can regular people understand gestures even thought they never learnt about deaf culture?

Facial expression? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"

Body language?"Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"

What is differenet between sign language and oralism? Sign language is a language, Oralism is a method

Would CI people accept hearing impaired status? If they do not accept HI status, are they losing their identify in deaf culture/deaf soceity? They do. Read the topics and posts of Neecy, R2D2, etc. And if they were connected to Deaf culture. They remain so. It happens that Deaf culture rejects them!


Why would CI society enjoy getting free CC on tv or using Internet relay service that they do not want to be misunderstood commmuniation?Because when I watch norwegian television, I enjoy subtitles on english films. When communication is not 100% in one language, then CC wil help.


How comes CI society does not get along with deafies with ASL? Are they ingoring them so that they could climb rapidly in their careers?They do. From what I have read in the topics it's Deaf culture that rejects people that choose for CI. Plenty of examples here, but I guess you reject these.


Cloggy, I do not think you have much to explain whole Deaf Culture/Society....

Was that a question?

These questions where quite different from the ones before. (see below)
What is different along sign language, body language, gesture, fingerspelling and facial expression?

Let's see how smart are you?

I'm sorry I could not deduct the above questions from your previous one.

My sincere apologies that you had to ask the questions again.

 

[Cloggy]

You may have to help your buddy to answer...

So this is your conclusion?

I guess that's how you work. Getting everyone together...

How close to the truth is this scenario???

Mookie to backup: Let's ask a question to Cloggy...
Backup suggests question
Mookie to backup: Damn... he answerer and he KNEW...how irrritating..
Mookie to backup: I'll tell him I am not satisfied. That'll tech him...
Mookie to backup: Anyone... I need real questions.
Backup giving yousome questions......
Mookie : Oh great... I'll post them so Cloggy HAS to answer now. He's screwed!!
Mookie to backup: Damn... he answered all questions... Now what..

OK, let's lay low......

BTW - does Sweetmind know you are "off her topic" or is she part of the "backup"

 

[Mookie]

Cloggy
Mookie


How does gesture work for you to understand? Can regular people understand gestures even thought they never learnt about deaf culture?
No answer?

Facial expression? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Come on, Cloggy. Don't you forgotton the opera singers use their facial expression? I watched the facial expression of the actors quoting from william shakespeare play on TV program. Why do you blame whole deafie about using facial expression? I think you have forgotten that your own child with CI does have facial expression. You need to see yours in mirror....

Body language? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Don't you ever see any professional athletes, coaches, and umpires do their own body language? Time out? Foul? "Go that way"? Why do you assume about using ASL more than speech? Did your boss shows his/her finger that one? Come on, Cloggy. You can do better than that. I thought you only speak several languages?

What is differenet between sign language and oralism? Sign language is a language, Oralism is a method
Come on, Cloggy...don't you know that oralism method allow to use fingerspelling?

Would CI people accept hearing impaired status? If they do not accept HI status, are they losing their identify in deaf culture/deaf soceity? They do. Read the topics and posts of Neecy, R2D2, etc. And if they were connected to Deaf culture. They remain so. It happens that Deaf culture rejects them!
So what. There are so small number of CI people espeically Neecy and R2D2 to accept deaf culture/deaf society. Don't you know that there are lots of people with CI who lost their hearing in their late adult that they do not bother to accept the deaf status. Naturally, there are high percentage in that category. Cloggy, I am gladly that you are with deaf society. But you have forgotten that there are others with CI do not get along with deafies...


Why would CI society enjoy getting free CC on tv or using Internet relay service that they do not want to be misunderstood commmuniation? Because when I watch norwegian television, I enjoy subtitles on english films. When communication is not 100% in one language, then CC wil help.
Oh boy, you are a hearie. Maybe you have not found any people with CI in your area.

How comes CI society does not get along with deafies with ASL? Are they ingoring them so that they could climb rapidly in their careers? They do. From what I have read in the topics it's Deaf culture that rejects people that choose for CI. Plenty of examples here, but I guess you reject these.
How do you know if I reject? I do not need CI for the rest of my own life so it is my choice.
I have met some people with CI and I have not provided them any negatives...



Cloggy, I do not think you have much to explain whole Deaf Culture/Society....
Still need more...

 

[Fragmenter]

Cloggy got it down to a science and every question has already been answered If you want straight cut answers, then stop asking vague questions.

 

[Mookie]

Cloggy got it down to a science and every question has already been answered If you want straight cut answers, then stop asking vague questions.

Then why are you not helping your pal?

 

[neecy]

Then why are you not helping your pal?

because he doesn't NEED to? Cloggy is quite capable of handling his own discussions - he's an incredibly intelligent person. Why would he need help?

 

[Mookie]

because he doesn't NEED to? Cloggy is quite capable of handling his own discussions - he's an incredibly intelligent person. Why would he need help?

How do you know? Wait and see...

If Cloggy is an incredibly intelligent person, how comes he has not answered whole answers?

 

[Sweetmind]

Cloggy's

CI-nonsense

This is an old article and they always put the negative aspect in the paper. They dont tell all the facts, I dont trust them. I am giving you all the reasons about devices and how they dont help much. They dont know the truth...we Deaf people know the truth. His site belongs to Nesmith he is very negative about the Deaf community. He didnt do anything with ADA for Deaf rights because his attitude...is a negative one as usual. He doesnt look at the positive aspects of Deafness. Always *thumbs down* on Deaf people like Mookie, Sxyporkie, myself, hearing people with a great attitude like (gnulinuxman, donn) , Latened Deaf like (CSN) and Deaf Leaders that includes Matthew Moore, Harlen Lane, and many others, etc... I have no respect for him and I do not support him because his focus is on Oral rules and he has harrassed me on more than one occasion. What kind of man is he? I dont think he should be involved in Deaf Activities at all. Thats not what its all about. People dont care or work with us but they want us to work for them. No way! Everything is about $$$$$$money$$$$$$ and oral rules only.

Once you dont like the way I expressed my own feelings that you expected me to act like A robot with no feelings. Thats a very good example of how you treat Deaf people. Scoffs!

Thumb Down!
Sweetmind

 

[Fragmenter]

How do you know? Wait and see...

If Cloggy is an incredibly intelligent person, how comes he has not answered whole answers?

He answered clearly and completely to your vague questions.

 

[Mookie]

He answered clearly and completely to your vague questions.

Not enough...

 

[Cloggy]

Cloggy
Mookie
Cloggy

How does gesture work for you to understand? Can regular people understand gestures even thought they never learnt about deaf culture?
No answer?
I missed it... (I'm sure you and your friend will think of a nice remark on that...) Yes

Facial expression? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Come on, Cloggy. Don't you forgotton the opera singers use their facial expression? I watched the facial expression of the actors quoting from william shakespeare play on TV program. Why do you blame whole deafie about using facial expression? I think you have forgotten that your own child with CI does have facial expression. You need to see yours in mirror....Uh, didn't I say everyone uses it? When I learned sign, I had to get used to using MORE facial expression.

Body language? "Everyone uses these. With ASL more than speech only"
Don't you ever see any professional athletes, coaches, and umpires do their own body language? Time out? Foul? "Go that way"? Why do you assume about using ASL more than speech? Did your boss shows his/her finger that one? Come on, Cloggy. You can do better than that. I thought you only speak several languages?Again, didn't I say EVERYONE uses it? Is it your reading skills - or your understanding skills that are lacking?

What is differenet between sign language and oralism? Sign language is a language, Oralism is a method
Come on, Cloggy...don't you know that oralism method allow to use fingerspelling?I know... What's wrong with my answer

Would CI people accept hearing impaired status? If they do not accept HI status, are they losing their identify in deaf culture/deaf soceity? They do. Read the topics and posts of Neecy, R2D2, etc. And if they were connected to Deaf culture. They remain so. It happens that Deaf culture rejects them!
So what. There are so small number of CI people espeically Neecy and R2D2 to accept deaf culture/deaf society. Don't you know that there are lots of people with CI who lost their hearing in their late adult that they do not bother to accept the deaf status. Naturally, there are high percentage in that category. Cloggy, I am gladly that you are with deaf society. But you have forgotten that there are others with CI do not get along with deafies...There's a difference between "getting along with deafies" and "being with deaf society". I'll leave it to someone else to explain... (again)


Why would CI society enjoy getting free CC on tv or using Internet relay service that they do not want to be misunderstood commmuniation? Because when I watch norwegian television, I enjoy subtitles on english films. When communication is not 100% in one language, then CC wil help.
Oh boy, you are a hearie. Maybe you have not found any people with CI in your area.You see, there is something wrong with your memory. Just 1 minute before you wrote this, you mentioned my daughter with CI... "Is there a doctor in this messageboard?"

How comes CI society does not get along with deafies with ASL? Are they ingoring them so that they could climb rapidly in their careers? They do. From what I have read in the topics it's Deaf culture that rejects people that choose for CI. Plenty of examples here, but I guess you reject these.
How do you know if I reject? I do not need CI for the rest of my own life so it is my choice.
I have met some people with CI and I have not provided them any negatives...You see, you have reading and understanding problems.... I said "I guess" which is totally different from "I know". Ask your buddy sitting next to you.... if that would help.



Cloggy, I do not think you have much to explain whole Deaf Culture/Society....
Still need more...

I'm sure....

 

[SxyPorkie]

I'm sure....

It seems you have little understanding about deafies and their world,, you need to be more involved in the deaf society to help yourself more understanding.... you will see and learn more,,, try to be invovled in deaf society!!!

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie