Cloggy
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CI... why would you bring that up in this thread?Sweetmind said:.. CI doesnt prove me anything yet....
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CI... why would you bring that up in this thread?Sweetmind said:.. CI doesnt prove me anything yet....
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Fragmenter said:That is where you are just being absurd.
Can you work as a bank teller? Can you work the cash register at Wal-Mart? Can you take orders up front at McDonald's?
The above are simple jobs that doesn't require extensive education yet we deaf people CANNOT have these jobs simply because they can't communicate orally with hearing people. Heck, even with all the tricks I learned all my life, I CAN'T do those types of work.
When you become honest with yourself and accept that deafness is a handicap AND we can't do anything except hear. That's the truth I'm trying to preach.
Fragmenter said:That is where you are just being absurd.
Can you work as a bank teller? Can you work the cash register at Wal-Mart? Can you take orders up front at McDonald's?
The above are simple jobs that doesn't require extensive education yet we deaf people CANNOT have these jobs simply because they can't communicate orally with hearing people. Heck, even with all the tricks I learned all my life, I CAN'T do those types of work.
When you become honest with yourself and accept that deafness is a handicap AND we can't do anything except hear. That's the truth I'm trying to preach.
At first you're wrong, then you're right.deaflinuxgeek said:........... DEAFNESS IS NOT A HANDICAP OR DISABILITY BUT YET IT IS A UNIQUE DIFFERENCE FOR US!!!!!!!!!!
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And again I will state that DEAFNESS IS A UNIQUE DISABILITY...........
deaf people can do anything that a hearing person can do except hear.
You don't have to be a teller to work at a bank, you don't have to be a cashier at Wal-Mart to work there, and you don't have to take orders at the Drive-Thru to work at McDonald's.
Audiofuzzy said:and that is the CRUX of their disability. Not being able to hear IS disability.
Fuzzy
Audiofuzzy said:No, but if they need someone SPECIFICALLY for this you (the deaf) are out...
Fuzzy
CP and working at McDonalds. I'm impressed.deaflinuxgeek said:Fuzzy did I just see you take my words out of contents and by the way the way you look at your deafness is your way but some state its not a handicap nor a disability. Really reread my post and think uh?
I dont call my Cerebral Palsy I have a disability but I view it as a unique difference in my life.
Deaflinuxgeek
Fragmenter said:When you become honest with yourself and accept that deafness is a handicap AND we can't do anything except hear.
deaflinuxgeek said:Oh really?? who says? you?? its discrimination if people dont give us the fair right to have a job just the same as a hearing person, I mean our ADA laws will not allow us to not get jobs, because we can really benefit their work environment a dreat deal..
Ever think of that?? Really you need to see that!!
Deaflinuxgeek
You're right about that not being discrimination. It's called prejudice, or pre-judging.^Angel^ said:I don't think it as a discrimination even my own father thinks I can't do many things, often I hear him say " you can't do this because you can't hear " and the sad part is, he hasn't given me that chance to see if I could actually do the job!
It's ALL about giving every deaf person (s) a chance to see if they could actually do the job, rather than thinking they can't do it...
She does a wonderful job there. She is proof that she can be deaf and have CP and work at McDonald's, and she's working towards being a computer hardware technician in college.Cloggy said:CP and working at McDonalds. I'm impressed.
I agree with you there.^Angel^ said:I thought handicap means to reduces the amount of things that we can't do, but how is it that deafness being a handicap when we could do almost anything expect to hear?...I think it should be " deafness is a disability " instead of a handicap...
Huh? You DO need to say more because this post doesn't make any sense.greema said:oh, oy oy! this really takes the cake!
Uh, my fiancee was hired at McDonald's partially because she was deaf. They have a fairly high number of deaf customers and they didn't want to go through the hassle of writing everything too. So they hired my fiancee. She was also hired for other reasons too, of course.
gnulinuxman
I hate to kill your win fragmenter but I work at mcdonalds and do work as the order taker at times when we need a person there.
deaflinuxgeek
need i say anything more?
Cloggy said:CP and working at McDonalds. I'm impressed.
I am getting more and more impressed.deaflinuxgeek said:..... everyone is when a person has ataxic spasmatic hemiplegia, RADS, type 2 diabetes, seizure issues, ADHD and Autism works at Mcdonalds and is deaf too.....
Cloggy said:I am getting more and more impressed.
Now you see my bold quote from Harlen Lane. Thats what I meant by this, people should change their attitude and accept to learn ASL, no matter whether you like it or not. Their parents are not deaf and need to be openminded about their Deaf children's alternatives and Deaf Literature and many more that relates in ASL before forcing or conforming them because they are ignorant and believe everything that audists and CI radical people say while they dont have very positive outlooks that we Deaf people can do anything except hear that involves ASL itself. Scoffs