EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

[SxyPorkie]

Ok, Now Im confused...I have read that you said that u wear two hearing aids, are an Oral speaker, and dont sign. You have also said that you have No plm communicating with Hearing people,and associate with the hearing world only. Now you also said you dont know/understand ASL and cannot hear with two HAs from the computer that has lo/hi volumes, and NOW English is your second language I m too confused by everything that you said.. What is your First Language if it is not English or ASL?

What do you mean u have an excuse that English is your second langauge??
I assumed knowing English would help you with grammar whether spoken or written.

I am not being rude by this post about you...I just had to point this out. You jumped to conclusions...that is your issue, not mine.

Closed caption doesnt work with ASL movies...because Closed caption is English. Its ruins the image of ASL. It ruins the true language of plays in video. There is a difference between English and ASL. Heearing people CODA know the difference. That is the purpose for it. If you really want to understand you should hire an oral speaking interpreter, dont try to change ASL thats the way it is.

You chose not to learn ASL which is fine with me but however you have no right to place your shoes into it after all you dont know nothing about ASL itself from the start. Thats what I dont appreciate with audism people who thinks they know it all.

Thats what it s all about Deaf cultures and our Deaf spirits.

Many thanks!
Sweetmind

you are completely right...I wonder if Fragmenter knows all ASL and facial expressions that are required,,, oh SHEESH !!!!

Thanks...
SxyPorkie

 

[SxyPorkie]

So 98% of the world has no excuse not to learn ASL... WOW!!!

Call the UN!!

I did read all of your writings... It seems you are very much against deafies even tho your daughter is deaf and you are in the form of child abuse got your daughter implanted with CI,,,, it is really sad!!!!

no one including deafies and hearings have written perfect English!!!!

Thanks!!!

SxyPorkie

 

[Cloggy]

I did read all of your writings... It seems you are very much against deafies even tho your daughter is deaf and you are in the form of child abuse got your daughter implanted with CI,,,, it is really sad!!!!

no one including deafies and hearings have written perfect English!!!!

Thanks!!!

SxyPorkie

All of them... So you are the one that did that.

Against deafies.... No.

So you real all of my posts, and still you don't get it.

You know there's a difference between "reading" and "understanding".

 

[ayala920]

I knkow its 15% Deaflinuxgeek

The information below is an excerpt from The Gallaudet Research Institute's website:

For the 17-year-olds and the 18-year-olds in the deaf and hard of hearing student norming sample, the median Reading Comprehension subtest score corresponds to about a 4.0 grade level for hearing students. That means that half of the deaf and hard of hearing students at that age scored above the typical hearing student at the beginning of fourth grade, and half scored below. The "median" is the 50th percentile, and is one of the ways to express an average, or typical, score. (A "mean" score, or arithmetic average, is not the same as the median.)

 

[Fragmenter]

I just learned that you are ORAL deaf... you said something about gallaudet university,,, in which about two hours drive from the deaf school in Virginia..
I wonder how much you had learned ASL at Gallaudet University... If you had been there for 4 yrs you should be expert with ASL,, i guess you are not...

Thanks!!!!
SxyPorkie

I learned ASL from birth. :Owned:

Read my posts before you make a fool out of yourself.

 

[Cloggy]

Originally Posted by SxyPorkie
I just learned that you are ORAL deaf... you said something about gallaudet university,,, in which about two hours drive from the deaf school in Virginia..
I wonder how much you had learned ASL at Gallaudet University... If you had been there for 4 yrs you should be expert with ASL,, i guess you are not...

Thanks!!!!
SxyPorkie

I learned ASL from birth. :Owned:

Read my posts before you make a fool out of yourself.

She only read my posts I guess.....

 

[Sweetmind]

I am quite sure you are aware that 95% of deaf children are born to hearing parents. Providing a clear, accurate, fluent model of ASL is not an easy task for hearing parents, one imo, best left to DOD whose first language is ASL.
The parents are best at providing a clear, accurate, fluent model of their language, whether it be Hindu, Spanish or English.

Now you see my bold quote from Harlen Lane. Thats what I meant by this, people should change their attitude and accept to learn ASL, no matter whether you like it or not. Their parents are not deaf and need to be openminded about their Deaf children's alternatives and Deaf Literature and many more that relates in ASL before forcing or conforming them because they are ignorant and believe everything that audists and CI radical people say while they dont have very positive outlooks that we Deaf people can do anything except hear that involves ASL itself. Scoffs!

I have proven many facts after I spoke about many deaf issues, on the table that we Deaf people with devices that dont help us to hear everything for a long time, if you mind .. Stop denying and change your attitude. Thanks! I dont need your fighting with me for a very stupid reason after all you refused to accept the truth.

DEAF PEOPLE CAN DO ANYTHING EXCEPT HEAR...That is what we have shown to you many times with all different kinds of articles and books that make a huge difference about Deaf people with or without oral speaking and devices. There is a book I have read "Step into the circle" by Damara Goff Paris and Sharon Kay Wood...[/quote] and most of the people in this book do not wear devices.

Sweetmind 's

I have to say this, A Deaf blind man that I knew when I was a little girl. He always stopped by seeing me until I left to transfer other school. He could speak pretty good without device. He did it without DEVICE. He cannot hear and see so he proved me all along that we do not need Hearing aid or Cochlear Implant devices. He uses his hands to feel it by voices not by his deaf ears. He used ASL and Tactile sign language Thank you so much!!!!!!

Oh I must mention that he was working on electronic things and is very independent guy that he always walk with his cane and get on the bus wherever he goes. He is my Deaf Blind Role Model. I dont know if he is alive today. I would love to meet him again.

Thats why I resisted to believe anything from audism attitude, ASL and Oralism extermists. Thats why it s full of craps for them to make money out on Deaf children.

Like I did posted at fragmenter s topic about his CI deaf child that turns me off because there are some ASL /Oralism extremists negative views. It shows me that he doesnt know the truth 100 percent.

You ignore the fact that he doesnt need to have the device. He made it without devices that he uses his hands to feel people s voices thats how he learned how to orally speak. That 's his oral survival kits that he can adapt that is different from us.. However we can feel it too.. So there! You wont let us adapt our own language / feelings/ creative thinking that helps by ASL itself, and many more....

Thats very positive reinforcements about Deaf people can do anything except hear. It doesnt cost money compared CI itself costs more than $50,000...a waste money and our gifted tools not to tell the truth that they cannot hear everything.


Thank you!
Sweetmind

 

[Fragmenter]

you are completely right...I wonder if Fragmenter knows all ASL and facial expressions that are required,,, oh SHEESH !!!!

Thanks...
SxyPorkie

Oh my goodness. Want to bet?

I can make you put your foot in your mouth seconds into our VP chat

 

[Fragmenter]

DEAF PEOPLE CAN DO ANYTHING EXCEPT HEAR

That is where you are just being absurd.

Can you work as a bank teller? Can you work the cash register at Wal-Mart? Can you take orders up front at McDonald's?

The above are simple jobs that doesn't require extensive education yet we deaf people CANNOT have these jobs simply because they can't communicate orally with hearing people. Heck, even with all the tricks I learned all my life, I CAN'T do those types of work.

When you become honest with yourself and accept that deafness is a handicap AND we can't do anything except hear. That's the truth I'm trying to preach.

 

[Sweetmind]

"Everyone Here spoke in Sign Language"
Hereditary Deafness on Martha ‘s Vineyard
Nora Ellen Groce
Foreword by John W. M . Whiting

I had read this book that hits me so hard and angry about not having our ASL in classroom or at home or anywhere that hearing people need to see the truth that is a language. I couldnt believe how couldn't people dont see that it works so well for both sides.

Deaf and Hearing people can communicate each other with our hands that works very well in the past until Oral extremists took over. Why does audism people wanting to destroy everything that works so well for Deaf children's best interest?

Thank you!
Sweetmind

 

[Fragmenter]

You know there's a difference between "reading" and "understanding".

Seriously.

 

[Cloggy]

"Everyone Here spoke in Sign Language"
Hereditary Deafness on Martha ‘s Vineyard
Nora Ellen Groce
Foreword by John W. M . Whiting

I had read this book that hits me so hard and angry about not having our ASL in classroom or at home or anywhere that hearing people need to see the truth that is a language. I couldnt believe how couldn't people dont see that it works so well for both sides.

Deaf and Hearing people can communicate each other with our hands that works very well in the past until Oral extremists took over. Why does audism people wanting to destroy everything that works so well for Deaf children's best interest?

Thank you!
Sweetmind

I read the book as well. Very interesting stuff.
It also described that 25% of the island in those old times were deaf.
In todays society, it's 2%. Feel the difference.

So, with your thinking... why do you not speak chinese? Lots of people in USA speak chinese. Why don't you? It would make life so much easier. And you can just learn it....

"Why does audism people wanting to destroy everything that works so well for Deaf children's best interest?"

That's a trick question. Answer... Otherwise they would not be audists.

 

[Fragmenter]

That's a trick question. Answer... Otherwise they would not be audists.

Exactly.

 

[Sweetmind]

Can you work as a bank teller? Can you work the cash register at Wal-Mart? Can you take orders up front at McDonald's?

Why not?? I can do it if you let me. You are limiting yourself because we cannot speak 100 percent.. if not, then why are you pushing us to listen those devices that doesnt make us to hear everything? Are you telling me that we cannot lip read more than 35 percent? Are you telling me that hearing people are not allowed to write with a pad and pen with us like we did. Deaf people can work as cashiers since I know how to figure out math that is not too hard for me to handle.

In Maryland, there is a Deaf guy who works as a Bank Teller with no device. Believe it or not! You dont have much time to look out for positive reinforcements about Deaf people can do anything except hear. Thats a shame of your own degradation on our Deaf people who have been very successful in many ways that you dont want to bother to focus on them. Are you jealous or want to use crab theory that you love to pull them down when they have accomplished things that they did. It seems like your audist attitude is that we cant cant cant. Thts what pisses me off.

YOu are the one who wont allow us to work that you pointed that out. How interesting that you are not capable yourself to have these job positions.


Sweetmind

 

[Cloggy]

Sure

 

[SxyPorkie]

Oh my goodness. Want to bet?

I can make you put your foot in your mouth seconds into our VP chat

AHHHH so you are completely deaf... you use VP...so do I...if you do know all ASL and Deaf Culture,,,, made me wondering why you went into the form of child abuse having your child getting CI....Obviosly you are ashamed of yourself being deaf????

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie

 

[gnulinuxman]

That is where you are just being absurd.

Can you work as a bank teller? Can you work the cash register at Wal-Mart? Can you take orders up front at McDonald's?

The above are simple jobs that doesn't require extensive education yet we deaf people CANNOT have these jobs simply because they can't communicate orally with hearing people. Heck, even with all the tricks I learned all my life, I CAN'T do those types of work.

When you become honest with yourself and accept that deafness is a handicap AND we can't do anything except hear. That's the truth I'm trying to preach.

Uh, my fiancee was hired at McDonald's partially because she was deaf. They have a fairly high number of deaf customers and they didn't want to go through the hassle of writing everything too. So they hired my fiancee. She was also hired for other reasons too, of course.

You don't have to be a teller to work at a bank, you don't have to be a cashier at Wal-Mart to work there, and you don't have to take orders at the Drive-Thru to work at McDonald's.

 

[Cloggy]

AHHHH so you are completely deaf... you use VP...so do I...if you do know all ASL and Deaf Culture,,,, made me wondering why you went into the form of child abuse having your child getting CI....Obviosly you are ashamed of yourself being deaf????

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie

SexyPig, I think Fragmenter will answer this after you read some more about him.
And remember, don't just read it. Try to UNDERSTAND! It might take you a while, but it's really worth it.
See you in a couple of weeks.

Have a good life.

 

[neecy]

AHHHH so you are completely deaf... you use VP...so do I...if you do know all ASL and Deaf Culture,,,, made me wondering why you went into the form of child abuse having your child getting CI....Obviosly you are ashamed of yourself being deaf????

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie

You are showing your ignorance again - Search through his posts and you will find the answer.

And for heavens sakes will you (and all the anti-CI activists) quit saying that getting a CI means somebody is ashamed of their deafness??? WANTING TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE DOESN'T MAKE ONE ASHAMED!!!!!

 

[Sweetmind]

Cloggy 's

SexyPig, I think Fragmenter will answer this after you read some more about him.
And remember, don't just read it. Try to UNDERSTAND! It might take you a while, but it's really worth it.
See you in a couple of weeks.

Have a good life.

Neecy 's

You are showing your ignorance again - Search through his posts and you will find the answer.

And for heavens sakes will you (and all the anti-CI activists) quit saying that getting a CI means somebody is ashamed of their deafness??? WANTING TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE DOESN'T MAKE ONE ASHAMED!!!!!

SO are we, Deaf people? For petes sake! We are not ashamed of ourselves for being deaf with our hands.

People are the one who are the barrier of communication toward deafies in many ways or cannot able to communicate with us after all we did learn how to oral speak with or without devices. So what's your point?? We did it all those years that shows not successful because of your ATTITUDE. People denied as usual. You are making a excuse as always.. CI doesnt prove me anything yet.

Jeez!
Sweetmind