EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

[gnulinuxman]

Cool. That is You.

About Desi, he himself sang these songs. No third party translation, correct?

Correct, but you didn't say that before.

 

[Fragmenter]

Correct, but you didn't say that before.

OK OK OK

 

[Cloggy]

Stop all operations that go against medical ethics...

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My point is that the code of medical ethics says do not harm... .
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Haven't heared this one in a while...

If you really feel like that, then let's start with circumcision. More children can be "saved" there. They never gave their consent to it. And what's the pupose... basically nothing.
Then we'll go to cosmetic surgery. That will be some crusade.

And then CI. The way the give people the ability to hear. It should not be allowed. It goes against all ethics.

Go Sweetmind

 

[Fragmenter]

My brother in law and I had a good discussion last week about the deaf society. We agreed that we're the only handicapped group in the world who are backwards about our disability.

You don't see the blind people give birth to blind children and tell the doctor, "you better not fix their eyesight or else they wouldn't be able to read braille!".

You don't see one legged people abandoning their prothestics because they belong to "one legged people culture".

 

[gnulinuxman]

My brother in law and I had a good discussion last week about the deaf society. We agreed that we're the only handicapped group in the world who are backwards about our disability.

You don't see the blind people give birth to blind children and tell the doctor, "you better not fix their eyesight or else they wouldn't be able to read braille!".

You don't see one legged people abandoning their prothestics because they belong to "one legged people culture".

What about autistics, dyslexics, and other non-physical disabilities? I wouldn't want my autism cured because it's a part of me.

Deaf Culture is important to many deafies because it has its own language, its own art forms, and its own heritage that they had to fight for.

 

[Cloggy]

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Deaf Culture is important to many deafies because it has its own language, its own art forms, and its own heritage that they had to fight for.

I started to wonder. Sure "many" as a number, but how namy deaf people ar in Deaf culture.
I have no idea. But from what I read here, there are also "many" deafies that are not connected to Deaf culture...

Any numbers / percentages anyone?

 

[SxyPorkie]

What about autistics, dyslexics, and other non-physical disabilities? I wouldn't want my autism cured because it's a part of me.

Deaf Culture is important to many deafies because it has its own language, its own art forms, and its own heritage that they had to fight for.

I am new registered user.... I had read all of threads... I agreed with gnulinuxman completely..... I was not born deaf.... I becme HOH at age of 4 months old... but my parents were deaf... I graduated from the deaf school and live in deaf world also in the hearing world,,, I am very involved in the Deaf Culture... and I am PROUD of being deaf..

Thanks!!!!
SxyPorkie

 

[Fragmenter]

I am new registered user.... I had read all of threads... I agreed with gnulinuxman completely..... I was not born deaf.... I becme HOH at age of 4 months old... but my parents were deaf... I graduated from the deaf school and live in deaf world also in the hearing world,,, I am very involved in the Deaf Culture... and I am PROUD of being deaf..

Thanks!!!!
SxyPorkie

Welcome to AD! Remember, we don't bite.

 

[gnulinuxman]

I am new registered user.... I had read all of threads... I agreed with gnulinuxman completely..... I was not born deaf.... I becme HOH at age of 4 months old... but my parents were deaf... I graduated from the deaf school and live in deaf world also in the hearing world,,, I am very involved in the Deaf Culture... and I am PROUD of being deaf..

Thanks!!!!
SxyPorkie

to alldeaf! Thanks for your post. I can understand why you are proud of being deaf. I am proud of my differences too, and I like everyone to feel that way too.

Welcome to AD! Remember, we don't bite.

Ha!

 

[gnulinuxman]

I started to wonder. Sure "many" as a number, but how namy deaf people ar in Deaf culture.
I have no idea. But from what I read here, there are also "many" deafies that are not connected to Deaf culture...

Any numbers / percentages anyone?

:topic: Why would that be relevant?

There are many hearies connected Deaf Culture too, like me, for example.

 

[Boult]

I started to wonder. Sure "many" as a number, but how namy deaf people ar in Deaf culture.
I have no idea. But from what I read here, there are also "many" deafies that are not connected to Deaf culture...

Any numbers / percentages anyone?

There's about 30 millions deaf and hard of hearing in USA and out of that about up to 5 hundred thousands belongs to Deaf Culture.

 

[R2D2]

There's about 30 millions deaf and hard of hearing in USA and out of that about up to 5 hundred thousands belongs to Deaf Culture.

If that is true then the Deaf only represent 1.6% of the total deaf and hard of hearing population. I guess it's because they are so vocal that gives the impression that they are a much larger group than they really are.

 

[gnulinuxman]

There's about 30 millions deaf and hard of hearing in USA and out of that about up to 5 hundred thousands belongs to Deaf Culture.

Source???

And does this include people who don't have hearing loss?

And I have yet to meet (personally, that is) a deaf person who isn't culturally Deaf. But you included hard-of-hearing people, and they are usually steered into the hearing culture because of their partial ability to hear.

 

[Boult]

Source???

And does this include people who don't have hearing loss?

And I have yet to meet (personally, that is) a deaf person who isn't culturally Deaf. But you included hard-of-hearing people, and they are usually steered into the hearing culture because of their partial ability to hear.

can't you read? I said "out of" so I mean physically deaf and hard of hearing. the source: google it yourself!

 

[Sweetmind]

Sweetmind: what made you pick the American School in London, then? The stuff you quoted on their site - the same things are said in the brochures of just about every private or charter school in the country, and most public schools have the same things in their mission statement. The American School in London is *no* different from any other school in that regard.

Are you sure about that?? I picked this school as an example because they specifically state that they accept all kinds of students as far as ethnicity and such...They do not use ASL at all and dont provide those children to learn about Deaf history/ Deaf arts/ and much more that comes from Deaf community. Deaf children have the right to know their Deaf hertiage that is important for them to have the full knowledge of Deaf issues. Many of them do not know the truth and they should be aware of it and stand up for themselves as for Deaf Rights. They will never find out until late age or they got a wake up call that is more of culturally deaf from everywhere in this society if they are willing to open their eyes and accept themselves as a Deaf person.

And as for the statement that I don't know what bi-bi is - again, my mother taught for years at the Kennedy School in Berlin. When you expand bi-bi to bilingual-bicultural, you aren't specifying a language or culture. A school that describes itself as bi-bi could be English/ASL, German/DGS, Cantonese/HKSL English/German, French/Swahili, Spanish/Basque, or any of a zillion other choices. The Kennedy School in Berlin is a bilingual-bicultural institution with English and German as the languages, and American and German as the cultures.

BI BI lanugage is American Sign Language and Signed English with or without orally speaking that is equal rights for all deafies. It s fair treatment without having the '"out of sight" that Deaf people do need Alternative needs (I dont like the word "special needs").

Sweetmind 's

Deaf community has all kind of cultures itself for d/Deaf people.. So therefore we have Deaf cultures. Thats our positive outlook of our deafness everywhere in every countries that we d/Deaf people exists and much alive in this diversity world."

Thats very positive outlook about deaf people in their Deaf community that I am very supportive of their Deaf languages and Deaf people s rights to freedom. So why are you complain about this?? It doesnt make sense. Some deafies who come from other countries and move into America where they need to learn ASL because some of them cannot speak as they couldnt help it.. They are completely deaf and have their rights to be with us in Deaf Community or Deaf schools. I have seen some other deaf languages people that comes from and go to Deaf school that we could help him to learn English with Signed English that combines BI BI langauges. And you expect him to speak spoken language which is outrageous from the start.

I am Deaf and proud of it. I am not ashamed of showing my hands to communicate with anybody in this diversity world.. People out there need to be educated about d/Deaf people s true identity and our Deaf languages that is very important to all of our d/Deaf children s rights. I would love to learn their language and share it. Thats what the Deaf communtiy is all about.

Why bother to hide our deafness since they have a very negative view on deafness all along? I am not gonna to destroy myself because I BORN DEAF.

Thank you!
Sweetmind

 

[Cloggy]

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I am Deaf and proud of it. We know. You've told us.
I am not ashamed of showing my hands to communicate with anybody in this diversity world.. We know. You've told us.
People out there need to be educated about d/Deaf people s true identity and our Deaf languages that is very important to all of our d/Deaf children s rights. We know. You've told us.
I would love to learn their language and share it. Which language?
Thats what the Deaf communtiy is all about.We know. You've told us.

Why bother to hide our deafness since they have a very negative view on deafness all along? Not a negative view. They have no view at all. Then they learn about Deaf culture and make their own decisions.
I am not gonna to destroy myself because I BORN DEAF. That would be rediculous.

Thank you! You're welcome
Sweetmind

Cloggy

 

[ismi]

Sweetmind: bi-bi *includes* English/ASL education, but it also includes other situations. Much like one meaning of ASL is American Sign Language, but there are other expansions as well (American School in London, Applied Symbolic Logic, and so on).

 

[gnulinuxman]

BI BI lanugage is American Sign Language and Signed English with or without orally speaking that is equal rights for all deafies. It s fair treatment without having the '"out of sight" that Deaf people do need Alternative needs (I dont like the word "special needs").

Actually, ismi is right about this. BI-BI means "bilingual-bicultural", and while it is usually used in the US to refer to ASL and English ("bilingual") and deaf and hearing (bicultural), it can be used for any kind of bilingual and bicultural education. (But bi-bi is most commonly expanded when referring to the other combinations here.)

Thats very positive outlook about deaf people in their Deaf community that I am very supportive of their Deaf languages and Deaf people s rights to freedom. So why are you complain about this?? It doesnt make sense. Some deafies who come from other countries and move into America where they need to learn ASL because some of them cannot speak as they couldnt help it.. They are completely deaf and have their rights to be with us in Deaf Community or Deaf schools. I have seen some other deaf languages people that comes from and go to Deaf school that we could help him to learn English with Signed English that combines BI BI langauges. And you expect him to speak spoken language which is outrageous from the start.

Forcing deaf kids to make sounds they can't hear is ridiculous. I agree.

I am Deaf and proud of it. I am not ashamed of showing my hands to communicate with anybody in this diversity world.. People out there need to be educated about d/Deaf people s true identity and our Deaf languages that is very important to all of our d/Deaf children s rights. I would love to learn their language and share it. Thats what the Deaf communtiy is all about.

Good that you're proud of who you are. I like it when people are proud of their differences.

And agreed that hearing people need education about this. We are raised to believe that everybody wants to hear, but then are shocked to find out that there is a culture around deafness....

Why bother to hide our deafness since they have a very negative view on deafness all along? I am not gonna to destroy myself because I BORN DEAF.

If you're referring to the CI, I don't blame you.

 

[SxyPorkie]

I started to wonder. Sure "many" as a number, but how namy deaf people ar in Deaf culture.
I have no idea. But from what I read here, there are also "many" deafies that are not connected to Deaf culture...

Any numbers / percentages anyone?

Cloggy you know nothing about the Deaf Culture.... I was born hearing, but i became HOH... my parents were deaf ... I grew up in the Deaf family... You need to live in the Deaf Culture to understand completely... I am 61 yrs old now.. completely DEAF.... I am very proud of being in the Deaf Culture

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie

 

[neecy]

Cloggy you know nothing about the Deaf Culture.... I was born hearing, but i became HOH... my parents were deaf ... I grew up in the Deaf family... You need to live in the Deaf Culture to understand completely... I am 61 yrs old now.. completely DEAF.... I am very proud of being in the Deaf Culture

Thanks!!

SxyPorkie

I don't see anybody denying anoyone here the right to be proud of Deaf Culture. If you are happy/proud of it then all the more power to you. That's your right.