doctors cannot ask about guns

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LoveBlue said:
As stated before. A doctor asking a routine question during a routine exam if there is a gun in the house is not required and has no reason to report the owner of the gun.
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and there's no reason for doctors to ask us about gun.
 
Jiro said:
they don't report but they can mark it in their file. what happens next? I don't know. Medical Insurance? Most likely since they're the one who is paying for my bills.



1. nothing will happen if you say you're not sexually-active or not smoking because it's not illegal to lie to doctors.
2. But you will be reported to government if you have AIDS.
3. Something COULD happen if you honestly answered doctor's question that you do own a gun.
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Medical insurance companies can only access information that is directly pertaining to a claim. And only then when you sign a consent for the doctor to release that information.
 
Jiro said:
and you are very confused regarding gun law especially in states like NJ and NY.
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No I'm not. And gun laws in NJ and NY have virtually nothing to do with this topic.
 
jillio said:
So, you would prefer that we not access mental health records, and just allow actively psychotic, homicidal, and suicidal people to purchase guns at will?
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what I would prefer is unfettered gun rights so that we can protect ourselves from actively psychotic and homicidal people.

Suicidal People? I suppose you're open to a creation of Thought Police.
 
souggy said:
How does registering for a permit equates to consulting a doctor?
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a mark in file. State Police will and can see it, no doubt. That's NJ to you. #1 gun hater.
 
Jiro said:
what I would prefer is unfettered gun rights so that we can protect ourselves from actively psychotic and homicidal people.

Suicidal People? I suppose you're open to a creation of Thought Police.
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What on Earth do this have to do with the doctors?
 
Jiro said:
what I would prefer is unfettered gun rights so that we can protect ourselves from actively psychotic and homicidal people.

Suicidal People? I suppose you're open to a creation of Thought Police.
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Unfettered gun rights would mean that those actively psychotic and homocidal people would have more firepower than you.

Yeah, suicidal people. There are ways to assess for suicidal ideation. You are really starting to make a complete fool of yourself here.
 
Jiro said:
a mark in file. State Police will and can see it, no doubt. That's NJ to you. #1 gun hater.
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You really are paranoid. Are you sleeping well?]]

The state police don't make a habit of going to doctor's offices and reading records just to determine who has a gun and who doesn't. They are not even legally permitted to do so.
 
Banjo said:
How so?
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see my reply to souggy

jillio said:
Medical insurance companies can only access information that is directly pertaining to a claim. And only then when you sign a consent for the doctor to release that information.
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That's what it says in paper. In reality.... nope.

jillio said:
And round and round and round.....
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I had a same thought. Simple - tell us, not ask us.
 
Jiro said:
what I would prefer is unfettered gun rights so that we can protect ourselves from actively psychotic and homicidal people.

Suicidal People? I suppose you're open to a creation of Thought Police.
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So doctors are not allowed to protect yourself from your own delusions?

I suggest seeking a volunteer position at the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends before keeping up this charade.
 
Jiro said:
see my reply to souggy


That's what it says in paper. In reality.... nope.


I had a same thought. Simple - tell us, not ask us.
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Yes, Jiro, in reality. It is only your paranoia that makes you believe it is not so. Take it from someone that has to deal with HIPPA and confidentiality on a daily basis. You do not know what you are talking about.
 
jillio said:
Unfettered gun rights would mean that those actively psychotic and homocidal people would have more firepower than you.

Yeah, suicidal people. There are ways to assess for suicidal ideation. You are really starting to make a complete fool of yourself here.
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wow. psychotic and homicidal people would have more firepower than me? wow. paranoid much? is that why you support reduction of gun rights?

We're not in Iraq, silly. In this country, nobody especially psychotic and homicidal people can pack a grenade launcher, machine gun, or flamethrower. It's not firepower that wins the game.... it's the precision.

Although.... on a very rare case... firepower does win the game.... like LA Bank Robbery back in 1997...
 
jillio said:
Yes, Jiro, in reality. It is only your paranoia that makes you believe it is not so. Take it from someone that has to deal with HIPPA and confidentiality on a daily basis. You do not know what you are talking about.
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And take it from someone who has to deal with frivolous gun laws and gun cases in NJ/NY.
 
jillio said:
You really are paranoid. Are you sleeping well?]]

The state police don't make a habit of going to doctor's offices and reading records just to determine who has a gun and who doesn't. They are not even legally permitted to do so.
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and where did I say that?
 
Jiro said:
wow. psychotic and homicidal people would have more firepower than me? wow. paranoid much? is that why you support reduction of gun rights?

We're not in Iraq, silly. In this country, nobody especially psychotic and homicidal people can pack a grenade launcher, machine gun, or flamethrower. It's not firepower that wins the game.... it's the precision.

Although.... on a very rare case... firepower does win the game.... like LA Bank Robbery back in 1997...
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That is not paranoia. That is simply fact, based on their motivation to be armed. Of course,with the paranoia you are exhibiting, you could well fit into that category.

Unfettered gun rights allows them access to weapons that they normally would not have legal access to given their mental health status. Duh.
 
souggy said:
So doctors are not allowed to protect yourself from your own delusions?

I suggest seeking a volunteer position at the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends before keeping up this charade.
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and where did I say that?

did you repeatedly miss my post where I said that I have no problem with doctors asking questions if they suspect of their patients being in danger?
 
jillio said:
That is not paranoia. That is simply fact, based on their motivation to be armed. Of course,with the paranoia you are exhibiting, you could well fit into that category.

Unfettered gun rights allows them access to weapons that they normally would not have legal access to given their mental health status. Duh.
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and the federal law prohibits one with mental and/or criminal history from owning a gun.
 
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