doctors cannot ask about guns

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jillio said:
Yeah, I've heard of it. Asking if I own a gun doesn't violate my privacy rights.
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As long as you can refuse to answer the question without repercussions.

After all, I have to register that gun, now don't I?
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Not always.

There are also Second Amendment debates about that.

And answer a bunch of private questions about my life in order to purchase it.
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Not for private sales.

After all that, why would I be so worried about my privacy being violated because my kid's doctor knows I own it?
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Because I don't know how he will use that information.

And there is no reason why they would pry into a house where there has been no complaints. Which means that they are not going to go prying into a house just because a gun owner has been honest and said, "Yes, I own a gun."
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How would I know that the doctor won't be making a complaint?
 
jillio said:
Yes, it is. I am using the extreme to counter act the extreme. The simple fact that statistics show that a child is more at risk with a gun in the home, and that is sufficient reason to address safety issues just doesn't seem to concern the NRA and Second Amendment fundamentalists.
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because NRA doesn't use extreme & far-fetched reasoning.... like Brady Campaign. It makes no sense. I don't see any logic in this at all.
 
Reba said:
As long as you can refuse to answer the question without repercussions.


Not always.

There are also Second Amendment debates about that.


Not for private sales.


Because I don't know how he will use that information.


How would I know that the doctor won't be making a complaint?
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You're right. I could go out and buy an unregistered gun off the street and circumvent the laws. In which case, how likely am I to take precautions to protect my children from that gun?

Why would the doctor make a complain without a valid reason to do so. Like I said, the response would be "And...?"
 
Jiro said:
because NRA doesn't use extreme & far-fetched reasoning.... like Brady Campaign. It makes no sense. I don't see any logic in this at all.
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Oh, forbidding doctors to ask a question in the name of child safety isn't extreme?
 
jillio said:
Again, how would they know that child was in danger by looking at their tonsils?
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tonsils? that would be tonsillitis. common medical condition.

If doctor accuses parent of child abuse because of a damage to child's tonsil... he should be stripped of medical license.
 
jillio said:
You're right. I could go out and buy an unregistered gun off the street and circumvent the laws. In which case, how likely am I to take precautions to protect my children from that gun?

Why would the doctor make a complain without a valid reason to do so. Like I said, the response would be "And...?"
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I don't believe in gun registration... only gun license like CCW.
 
Banjo said:
That's ironic consider what doctors do for a living.
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Heh, heh. I was referring to the social workers visiting the home. (Not the proctologist or gynecologist.)
 
I think we can all agree that the bill is harsh and unnecessary. It should be doctor's decision, not the government. If patient doesn't like it, he can find another doctor.

It doesn't matter how we think about gun control/gun rights. It's about fining doctors for simply asking about guns.
 
Jiro said:
tonsils? that would be tonsillitis. common medical condition.

If doctor accuses parent of child abuse because of a damage to child's tonsil... he should be stripped of medical license.
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Tonsils get checked during routine examination for well children check ups.

And you totally miss the point. You say a doctor needs to know that kid is in danger. They can't tell if there is a gun being kept unsafely in the home from looking at a kid's tonsils. They have to ask the question or wait for the kid to show up in the ER with a bullet lodged somewhere in their body.
 
netrox said:
I think we can all agree that the bill is harsh and unnecessary. It should be doctor's decision, not the government. If patient doesn't like it, he can find another doctor.

It doesn't matter how we think about gun control/gun rights. It's about fining doctors for simply asking about guns.
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Exactly.
 
Jiro said:
tonsils? that would be tonsillitis. common medical condition.

If doctor accuses parent of child abuse because of a damage to child's tonsil... he should be stripped of medical license.
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What if someone tied a fishing line to their tonsil and left them hanging there on a bar affixed to a doorway?

I need to stop reading murder cases and sex abuse cases.
 
jillio said:
Jiro, go back and read your posts. You have said that we don't need to report any incident or do any intervention until a child has actually been hurt in some way. Prevention just seems to be a foreign concept to you.
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That's not exactly what I said.

Again - I asked you for examples of what leads doctor to asking us a question about gun possession.

I'm fine with a teacher calling parent in for a talk along with principal if she found a bruise on child's back but I have a serious problem with teacher and principal aligning together to make a baseless accusation that parent is a child abuser.
 
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