Do we have a challenge ahead of us to avoid becoming Hearing?

And you're including HOH with deaf, as being oppressed by speech training?
 
Beach girl said:
And you're including HOH with deaf, as being oppressed by speech training?
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You have no idea...

my friend who was HOH was fired fromher teaching job at an oral-only program because the parents were so freakin' obsessed with her ability to be a "spoken English" role model for their precious deaf/hoh children. Now, she is working as a teacher's aide making 20 thousand less than she did as a teacher all because of this stupid f***** oral-only philosophy.

Heck...one ADer who was a father of a deaf child with CIs admitted that he didnt want a teacher who is deaf teaching his child.

How is that for oppression, heh?
 
BG, I had an old blackberry. Now I have the iPhone. The difference for communicating is amazing. Be more than happy to talk about that elsewhere.
 
Beach girl said:
Since there are often threads on here about "How do I find the deaf community in such-and-such place?" or "How can I find someone to practice ASL with?", it doesn't look to me like knowing ASL necessarily makes someone's life easier, or allows them to communicate very freely with people around them, unless they live and work very closely with a deaf community. That is not the case for most people.
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I was ID as a teen and what pisses me off is late deafed who are too lazy to google "asl classes+their location" or who are not willing to travel to the nearest class or social.

Late Deafed are at normally pushed into mi by social agencies who dont want to fund terps for them.

And I dont buy the excuse of $$ being an issue for learning learn by immersion.For practice inbetween classes or social buy or make posters
 
shel90 said:
You have no idea...

my friend who was HOH was fired fromher teaching job at an oral-only program because the parents were so freakin' obsessed with her ability to be a "spoken English" role model for their precious deaf/hoh children. Now, she is working as a teacher's aide making 20 thousand less than she did as a teacher all because of this stupid f***** oral-only philosophy.

Heck...one ADer who was a father of a deaf child with CIs admitted that he didnt want a teacher who is deaf teaching his child.

How is that for oppression, heh?
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Was that Cloggy? *and what about that ranter shaped like a hairy tropical fruit with the milk inside....
 
DeafCaroline said:
BG - oralism is about manually teaching the deaf how to speak and how to "listen". Did you have to be manually taught how to speak after becoming late-deafened?

I grew up oral only and no, it was not very beneficial because even though I can speak freely with the hearing, I still cannot hear them fluently. I was left out of everything from family meals to schools and even if I was the most perfect speaker on this planet, I still struggle with comprehending what hearing people say. Advocates of the oral-only approach don't get this or they just ignore this as irrelevant.
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me too
 
I think sometime those with a little better hearing, those with a severe loss sometime take it for granted that it was a little easier for them to develop good speech. As opposed to those with a profound whereas cause they had to work harder to get where they're at, they appreciate it a little more.
 
Wise thought from Hohtopics-above. One can't exactly determine if/when one will have "some problem with their hearing".

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
 
shel90 said:
Oralism is oppression of deaf people.
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And ASL is to. Can you imagine a spanish-only child going of to school, later to a job, then social events and having a terp. ASL-only oppress the independence of the deaf person.
 
rolling7 said:
And ASL is to. Can you imagine a spanish-only child going of to school, later to a job, then social events and having a terp. ASL-only oppress the independence of the deaf person.
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Dang. Wait till I tell my Deaf, ASL-only friends that! They would be pleased as punch! They love to prove people like you wrong. :giggle:
 
Yes, I was born deaf and am profound deaf.

There are few ASL-only deaf who are comfortable in life. Those deaf who have benefited themself but learning English (i.e. how to read and write it, note I did not say speak it) are much more successful in life.

Beowulf.......did you notice you and DC were using English in your posts?
Therefore, you can not be ASL-only and although I don't know your friends but I don't think they are ASL-only neither, but I could be wrong. I'm 100% right you and DC are NOT ASL-only because I have read your posts.

DC.......i speak, read and write English. I read, write but don't speak Latin (it was my required H.S. language) Spanish is all over Houston and I'm trying my best to read and write it but doubt I'll ever get the feel for that. No deaf has to remain ASL-only.
 
rolling7 said:
Yes, I was born deaf and am profound deaf.

There are few ASL-only deaf who are comfortable in life. Those deaf who have benefited themself but learning English (i.e. how to read and write it, note I did not say speak it) are much more successful in life.

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Just clarify, not few asl only deaf. There are a lot of ASL only Deaf who are comfortable in life who can read, write and ASL.

I have too many deaf friends who are asl users.
 
rolling7 said:
And ASL is to. Can you imagine a spanish-only child going of to school, later to a job, then social events and having a terp. ASL-only oppress the independence of the deaf person.
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Huh? Bilingual programs teach BOTH ASL and English. Never heard of any deaf program that do not teach English to deaf children.

Are you an ASL user?
 
Frisky Feline said:
Just clarify, not few asl only deaf. There are a lot of ASL only Deaf who are comfortable in life who can read, write and ASL.

I have too many deaf friends who are asl users.
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I think he's trying to claim that it would be limiting to literally only know ASL, and be unable to read and/or write English. Which... is confusing, since that was never mentioned anywhere or brought up previously at all.
 
StSapphire said:
I think he's trying to claim that it would be limiting to literally only know ASL, and be unable to read and/or write English. Which... is confusing, since that was never mentioned anywhere or brought up previously at all.
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OH! gotcha! thank you! i have not meet anyone like THAT.. If its the case then they may have some problem for some reasons.

thanks for pointing that out!
 
StSapphire said:
I think he's trying to claim that it would be limiting to literally only know ASL, and be unable to read and/or write English. Which... is confusing, since that was never mentioned anywhere or brought up previously at all.
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If so, then I agree. Same with hearing people...if they cant read and write in English, options are limited for them as well.
 
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