Do we have a challenge ahead of us to avoid becoming Hearing?

StSapphire said:
Uh... you might want to spend a bit of time googling "Bill Gates Philanthropy". Or pick some other rich guy to pick on (I recommend Trump, that guy's both a moronic jackass and especially non-philanthropic compared to other hyper-rich people.
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Not quite. He may not be the ardent philanthropist yet he still gives although considerably paltry when compared to Gates'.
 
kokonut said:
Not quite. He may not be the ardent philanthropist yet he still gives although considerably paltry when compared to Gates'.
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Right, I was specifically saying "compared to other hyper-rich folks", not "cumulative dollars compared to the general population". (Arguably, you could compare his philanthropy as a function of his net worth and he's practically a miser compared to the general population, even, but many people would consider that an unfair comparison.)
 
StSapphire said:
Right, I was specifically saying "compared to other hyper-rich folks", not "cumulative dollars compared to the general population". (Arguably, you could compare his philanthropy as a function of his net worth and he's practically a miser compared to the general population, even, but many people would consider that an unfair comparison.)
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What qualifies one as being "hyper-rich"?
 
kokonut said:
What qualifies one as being "hyper-rich"?
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certainly not Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh. and most of your Republicans who got "hyper-rich" are in jail. :lol:
 
Meh. I give more than the hyper-rich. I am talking about proportion.
 
inmate23 said:
It happens with all disabilities and it is sad

If it wasn't for group therapy(eg swimming lessons,horse riding) and my mother I probably wouldn't have meet another sole with a disability.

My dad still thinks I will grow out of my cerebral palsy and related diffidence

He cant get head round paralympic sport or Deaf/Deafblind community
I feel for his inability to see my life for what it is
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Yes, it does occur with all disabilities. I have no idea why parents often feel they need to "protect" their children with a disability by not exposing them to others with disabilities. Especially adults.

It is not unusual for the father to have much more difficulty accepting the child's disability than the mother has.
 
kokonut said:
Snotty? That wasn't my intention. Are you saying you got crushed once you found out you couldn't grow up into a hearing person?? You didn't say anything about whether you go all upset or not as a kid. All you said, in your reply to another poster, was that "I was one of them." Sorry for not realizing you got utterly crushed when you found out you couldn't grow up into a hearing person.
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How thick are you? Can't you grasp the fact, from the numerous posts DC has made, that discovering there were actually people like her who grew up into productive, happy adults was a comfort for her? As it is for anyone who has experienced that isolation.
 
kokonut said:
Ok. It was a belief of yours when you were little. And I'm saying for me, I didn't have that belief because I already knew I'd still have my hearing loss as I got older. It's not hard to believe that some deaf/hh kids would think they'd grow up and become hearing.

:dunno:
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Wow! You really are a remarkable person, and must have been a genius as a child. You claim to have escaped all of the things that other deaf/hoh people have in common.

**sarcasm ended**

The truth of the matter is, you are still dealing with your issues regarding your hoh status and your desire to be hearing. Everything move you make is suggestive of trying to fit into the hearing world and reject anything and everything to do with hearing loss. Those kids grew up to be much more well adjusted than you did.
 
rolling7 said:
Everything you said is an excuse.

Yes, I said what I meant but you did not read it as what I meant, only what you want it to mean.

A "donation" and "fund raising" are two different things, a world apart. But you knew that!

Federal and state funding would not be necessary today if parents (read: taxpayers) took back control of the education system. I could spend a whole day explaining that "backdoor" my grandfather was speaking of and how his point really came about that the government would take over the educational system. To be short, he was right and we all are paying the price for those before us having apathy as a whole.
Do the people, do the parents, do the taxpayers of today want to continue apathy and continue this huge mess of the education system, the budget, etc. that the government has given us? So best as I can see, they do and therefore this huge mess is their making because they are allowing it.

For the child that needs accommodation, and not necessary the deaf only, the local school is responsible for that. I won't go on-and-on with a solution. The base is there will be a need for "special schools" BUT funding comes from the total local level, meaning each local school district that sends a child is responsible for that child in each and every need. HOWEVER, the local school retains oversite. Today's state school? The state had all the power and authority and even receives federal funding which allows the government to have even more power and authority. Good luck for a concern parent getting in a word otherwise. Which in turn leads to apathy. “If there is not a pill for it, there is the government."
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You are so ill informed regarding the state of education as to be delusional.
 
DeafCaroline said:
Then why didn't you respond to jillio directly instead of quoting me and then posting like "well, I'm not. so there." You completely ignored that I had those beliefs because they were fed to me when I was very little and the impact this had on me as a very young child. And just responded with ..."not me. nah nah nah."

You are seriously a bonafide jerk. how can you possibly expect anyone to consider what you say and respond with consideration for your POV when you won't do them the same favour? Instead, you act superior to everyone and imply they just don't know better then wonder why they don't react well and are attacking innocent little kokonut who didn't say anything wrong, just that he's stating his own opinion, "is that not allowed?" while he sidesteps any question that could possibly force him to take an actual stance.
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He doesn't respond to me because he is afraid to. He has to do it through someone else. Very cowardly tactic. Usually he waits for one of the hearies to respond, or another one of his hearie wannabe cohorts, and then responds with an agreement. Can't even come up with a response other than 'I agree".
 
DeafCaroline said:
Then maybe you should do the same for some of the people who posted on your blog disagreeing with you and you told them they're not welcomed. Practice what you preach. Oh yeah, I forgot, you don't.
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Oh, yeah. Can't have anyone disagreeing with him on his blog!:roll: You have to edit out all of the posts that show the faults in his thinking process. Another cowardly move. If you are so secure in your position, you don't need to ban other viewpoints. But koko knows he cannot effectively debate those other viewpoints and will be made to look a fool. So he edits them out.
 
Beowulf said:
Meh. I give more than the hyper-rich. I am talking about proportion.
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Most of us labeled as "liberal" do. The conservative mind set is decidedly against philanthropy. "Let them pull themselves up by their boot straps!" "No free rides here!" "Social programs? Absurd!"
 
jillio said:
He doesn't respond to me because he is afraid to. He has to do it through someone else. Very cowardly tactic. Usually he waits for one of the hearies to respond, or another one of his hearie wannabe cohorts, and then responds with an agreement. Can't even come up with a response other than 'I agree".
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You're right, it's very cowardly of him.
 
jillio said:
Be careful, DC. You will end up koko's ignore list. He is frightened of strong, intelligent women.:P
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Oh god, i really hope he puts me on his ignore list so he can't see my posts anymore and reply with inane non sequiters.
 
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