Do animal have soul?

[Reba]

God is probably recycling humans and animals on Earth. We turn into ash, and our souls flies into women's womb as a new life.

But you see, there are more new lives born each day then there are old lives that die each day. So the numbers don't come out equal.

 

[moonflower]

I believe animals do have a soul. They also have feelings.

me too since i have animals in my whole life i know

i know what animals are feeling of about everyday stuff they do and we give them life and LOVE
love is the most important part to give

 

[webexplorer]

But you see, there are more new lives born each day then there are old lives that die each day. So the numbers don't come out equal.

But you see, there are new babies that could die in the hospitals. It does not have to be exact how many people living in our country. It is all over the world. Some people hide their own family that do not included on the Census or no SSN records, including homeless people on the streets. There is always something surprise that we don't see everyday. It is not a possible for someone to count how many souls are out there. It is a very mysterious that souls are special, and we have not found an evidence to reveal the souls for decades.

 

[Askjo]

No, any animals do not have soul because of their limited communication and the question: will any animals go to Hell or Heaven? The humanity does have a soul because this person is responsibility to accept Jesus or reject Him. Any animals do nothing to accept or reject Jesus. According to Revelation concerning the end of tribulation, Jesus will ride a white horse out of Heaven toward the Earth. At God's throne there has 3 animals: lion, cow and eagle.

 

[webexplorer]

No, any animals do not have soul because of their limited communication and the question: will any animals go to Hell or Heaven? The humanity does have a soul because this person is responsibility to accept Jesus or reject Him. Any animals do nothing to accept or reject Jesus. According to Revelation concerning the end of tribulation, Jesus will ride a white horse out of Heaven toward the Earth. At God's throne there has 3 animals: lion, cow and eagle.

I have seen some TV shows about animal talks. Some horses and dogs can talk a couple of words just like a person talks. I find that amazing.

Interesting question about accepting or rejecting him, what about Noah and the Ark story?

 

[Reba]

I'm talking about the whole world. The population is increasing. Crunch the numbers.

 

[Maria]

I don't even understand how the math of reincarnation could work. The human and animal population increases with each generation, so if the same souls are reincarnating into different bodies each time, it seems there wouldn't be enough souls to occupy all the bodies.

FYI : Reincarnation comes from the Hindu-buddhist philosophy of soul transmigration.

I was thinkin' of somethin' else. Men cut off the trees to build homes on the lands for people. People who believe in reincarnation will live in homes that was made from the trees ? I don't think so. Impossible.

Umm.. about the animals : I noticed there isn't many animals such as whales, polar bears, mooses, buffalos and so forth. They became declined due to global warmin' and other reasons. How could people reincarnate in that kind of animals when the animals are declined ? ( not enough civilization )

I believe that the reincarnation itself has no " life " since there's no such thing about reincarnation. And, even thou it may sound strange if, anyone says a person could reincarnate in animal and talk like an animal...like sayin' " moo " or " neigh " or " croak " or " oink " ... Gee, it doesn't make sense to me, really.

I mean, it sounds not right. That's abnormal to me.

It's either reincarnation or ressurection.

 

[jazzy]

Well, when you and your pet die, you will not see your pet, but you will see your ancestors/families/friends. Animals and people are different after death.

And, of course animals do not reincarnation. They only live once...and die once. Not twice.

Really, I have seen animals in heaven. No one really know till after we all die.

 

[Reba]

...Umm.. about the animals : I noticed there isn't many animals such as whales, polar bears, mooses, buffalos and so forth. They became declined due to global warmin' and other reasons. How could people reincarnate in that kind of animals when the animals are declined ? ( not enough civilization )

...It's either reincarnation or ressurection.

I don't believe in reincarnation, not at all.

In numbers, the animal population is increasing overall. Certain species are reduced or have died out but other species, especially domesticated animals, have increased. So the overall animal population number is increased, as is the human population number.

BTW, the number of buffalo has increased in the past 100 years, and the number of bald eagles has increased. The bald eagle has been recently removed from the endangered species list.

 

[Mistyrose]

Really, I have seen animals in heaven. No one really know till after we all die.

Oh,..interesting, YOU have been to heaven?..mm,
DO tell us about it!!

You are right, NO ONE wont know anything till after we
die!

 

[Mistyrose]

I don't believe in reincarnation, not at all.

In numbers, the animal population is increasing overall. Certain species are reduced or have died out but other species, especially domesticated animals, have increased. So the overall animal population number is increased, as is the human population number.

BTW, the number of buffalo has increased in the past 100 years, and the number of bald eagles has increased. The bald eagle has been recently removed from the endangered species list.

I dont believe in reincarnation at all either.

Yes, i heard about the bald eagles on TV and it is very interesting.
Also they said it is still against the law to shoot them even though
they are removed from the endangered species list..Good!!

 

[Reba]

I dont believe in reincarnation at all either.

Yes, i heard about the bald eagles on TV and it is very interesting.
Also they said it is still against the law to shoot them even though
they are removed from the endangered species list..Good!!

Yes, the bald eagle is our national emblem, so it is still protected.

 

[dreama]

Well reincarnation makes perfect sense to me. More sense then having some white guy in the sky who makes a planet like earth in just 7 days.

Just because the population is increasing does not discount reincarnation. It probably just means that more souls get created. Also it is possible to reincarnated into a differant animal so if an animal is say a Dodo in one lifetime but Dodo's are now extinct so it maybe an Emu in it's next life.

I KNOW that I was alive before as I have a dream of being beheaded which I can still remember even after several years. Also as a kid heads on their own used to freak me out. I also feel a great sense of de ja vu when I read in stories set in 18th and 19th century about people being beheaded. It sort of brings it back like it happened to me before.

 

[Reba]

...Just because the population is increasing does not discount reincarnation. It probably just means that more souls get created.

Who is creating more souls?

Also it is possible to reincarnated into a differant animal ...

Yes, I know that. I said, the total number of all animals and humans.

I KNOW that I was alive before as I have a dream of being beheaded which I can still remember even after several years.

Dreams aren't reality. They are dreams.

... I also feel a great sense of de ja vu when I read in stories set in 18th and 19th century about people being beheaded. It sort of brings it back like it happened to me before.

I'm afraid you've already tainted your experience by reading about beheadings. Your "memories" are contaminated by what you read.

 

[Maria]

I don't believe in reincarnation, not at all.

In numbers, the animal population is increasing overall. Certain species are reduced or have died out but other species, especially domesticated animals, have increased. So the overall animal population number is increased, as is the human population number.

BTW, the number of buffalo has increased in the past 100 years, and the number of bald eagles has increased. The bald eagle has been recently removed from the endangered species list.

Great ! Thanks for the information for me.
I am truly glad that the nbr of buffalo and eagle has increased. That's really good ! I would love to see them growin'. I know about the bald eagle that has been removed from the endangered species list. You are correct about that one.

 

[dreama]

Who is creating more souls?

God.

Dreams aren't reality. They are dreams.

What do you know? Dreams are often memories played back to us. You even get dreams that fortell things that happen in the future. Although I haven't experienced those sort of dreams personally but I've heard about it happening.

I'm afraid you've already tainted your experience by reading about beheadings. Your "memories" are contaminated by what you read.

No that's not true because I drempt about being beheaded before I read the book. Come to think of it I felt a strong sense of de ja vu when I read this other book set in 19th century about someone who took opium as this may also have happened in a past life. I tend to like books I can identify so why would I identify with a story set in another century if I hadn't been there? Why would I read a book about someone on death row and identify with it if it hasn't ever happened to me ever? (In this book the woman was innocent of the crime she was charged with) Of course I know there wasn't a death row in 19th century France but they did have the death penalty from beheading still around then.

Plus why would I, as a little kid, freak when I saw a head on it's own. Even a head like those where kids practice being hair dressers. I didn't know about beheadings. I just didn't like to see heads not attached to bodies. This was before I could even read so my memories there were definately not tainted with what I'd read.

 

[Reba]

God.

I would love to discuss this answer but it's not allowed here.

What do you know? Dreams are often memories played back to us. You even get dreams that fortell things that happen in the future. Although I haven't experienced those sort of dreams personally but I've heard about it happening.

Dreams don't necessarily reveal real life experiences. They can reveal anxieties, desires, and indigestion. They are wide open to interpretation. Dreams aren't reliable mental diaries of past events.

No that's not true because I drempt about being beheaded before I read the book.

1. there is no way to prove that you weren't exposed to a story, TV program, picture, etc., about a beheading prior to your dream

2. there is no way to prove that your dream about a beheading means that you personally experienced one

Your later reading about beheadings provides details for your brain that it didn't have to experience but become part of a false memory. Our brains do that all the time, especially with sensory experiences, even conscious ones. Our brains fill in missing letters to words, missing features to portrait, etc.

... I tend to like books I can identify so why would I identify with a story set in another century if I hadn't been there?

Because it feeds your fantasy, that's why.

Why would I read a book about someone on death row and identify with it if it hasn't ever happened to me ever?

Because you are a sensitive person, very introspective, with an active and rich imagination.

Plus why would I, as a little kid, freak when I saw a head on it's own.

Kids freak out at a variety of things that don't make sense. It's common. Some kids freak at clowns, some freak at dogs, some freak at brussel sprouts.

Even a head like those where kids practice being hair dressers. I didn't know about beheadings. I just didn't like to see heads not attached to bodies.

Disembodied heads are basically creepy anyway. One doesn't need to be a reincarnated beheading victim to be grossed out by heads. Some of those mannequin heads and Barbie hairdresser heads are pretty spooky looking. I don't blame kids for being scared of them.

This was before I could even read so my memories there were definately not tainted with what I'd read.

You could have seen a picture on TV, or maybe someone teased you cruelly with a toy "head". Or maybe the beheading represents something totally different. Objects in dreams are often symbolic of something else.

There is one other possibility too, but I'm not free to discuss it in this forum.

BTW, I'm not unfamiliar with reincarnation theories, pre-birth regression, and the people involved in it. Let's just say it's something I studied a few decades ago.

 

[Mistyrose]

Dreama...I totally agree with Reba with her post #157..it makes
more sense.
Dreams are just that, just dreams, not what you think like you
think, past lives or anything like that. It does not predict your future or anything like that at all either. If it did, we all would be
psychics, wouldnt we? Oh Boy!! Just use your imagination!!!!
What we could do in this chaotic world??????
OH MY GOD!

lol!

 

[dreama]

Dreams aren't reliable mental diaries of past events.

That isn't always the case. Some dreams are differant read this:

Angela Grubbs
39-The Life Beyond
SIX CASES OF THE REINCARNATION TYPE IN THE NETHERLANDS

1. there is no way to prove that you weren't exposed to a story, TV program, picture, etc., about a beheading prior to your dream

What does that prove?

2. there is no way to prove that your dream about a beheading means that you personally experienced one

There is also no way to prove that it wasn't.

Your later reading about beheadings provides details for your brain that it didn't have to experience but become part of a false memory. Our brains do that all the time, especially with sensory experiences, even conscious ones. Our brains fill in missing letters to words, missing features to portrait, etc.

I only had one memory of something coming down on my neck. Then I woke up and my neck hurt.

Because it feeds your fantasy, that's why.

As taken from the dictionary:

2 : FANCY; especially : the free play of creative imagination
3 : a creation of the imaginative faculty whether expressed or merely conceived: as a : a fanciful design or invention b : a chimerical or fantastic notion c : FANTASIA 1 d : imaginative fiction featuring especially strange settings and grotesque characters -- called also fantasy fiction

Main Entry: dé·jà vu
Pronunciation: "dA-"zhä-'vü, -'v[ue]
Function: noun
Etymology: French, adjective, literally, already seen
1 a : the illusion of remembering scenes and events when experienced for the first time b : a feeling that one has seen or heard something before
2 : something overly or unpleasantly familiar

So you see fantasy and de ja vu mean diferant things.

Because you are a sensitive person, very introspective, with an active and rich imagination.

It's nice to be flattered.

BTW, I'm not unfamiliar with reincarnation theories, pre-birth regression, and the people involved in it. Let's just say it's something I studied a few decades ago.

Yet you still manage to reject it out of hand despite all the evidence.

 

[Reba]

That isn't always the case. Some dreams are differant read this:

Angela Grubbs
39-The Life Beyond
SIX CASES OF THE REINCARNATION TYPE IN THE NETHERLANDS

I looked at the links. New names and places, but no "news". Same old, same old.

Interesting title of one of the linked articles:

"THE LIFE BEYOND: Through the eyes of Children who claim to remember previous lives"

Even that writer was skeptical.

There is an another explanation for so-called "memories" but I'm afraid if I mention it, this thread will be locked. For now, I'll just say that there is another source for memories of past experiences.

One thing I'm curious about. If reincarnation is real, why and for what purpose do some people remember past lives, and others don't?

What does that prove?

That there could be other sources of your "memories."

There is also no way to prove that it wasn't.

But the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

I only had one memory of something coming down on my neck. Then I woke up and my neck hurt.

You might have the cause and effect backward. You might have been sleeping in a position that caused your neck to hurt. That pain was expressed in your dream as a something striking your neck. That is very common.

So you see fantasy and de ja vu mean diferant things.

I didn't say that fantasy and de ja vu were the same things.

Your fantasy of beheading is fed or encouraged or fleshed out with detail by reading more and more of that topic.

"1 a : the illusion of remembering scenes and events when experienced for the first time b : a feeling that one has seen or heard something before
2 : something overly or unpleasantly familiar"

De ja vu is an "illusion" or "feeling"; it is not a life experience.

Yet you still manage to reject it out of hand despite all the evidence.

What evidence?

Years ago, when I really, really wanted to believe in reincarnation, and had all positive vibes for it, the more I searched, the more convinced I was of its falsehood.