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Steinhauer said:
Absolutely correct. I remember reading an article a couple of years ago that the bus Rosa Parks rode in was found in a junk yard. I think there was talk about renovating it and putting it in one of the Smithsonian museums.
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The bus has been restored, and is in the Henry Ford Museum. TCS and I visited it a few years ago while visiting his family in Michigan.

Rosa Parks Bus Restoration
 
Reba said:
Can you give your source, please?
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History.

I've read various accounts of the Boston Tea Party and I also learned of it through literature. The anti-British sentiment was very high and as such, there was pillaging and violence against those loyal to the Crown and their property. They were violently driven out. Settlers were furious with the ever increasing taxes and did not react well to tea merchants and other members of the British trade companies. Or any British subject really professing loyalty to England.

It was this surging anti-British sentiment that worsened after the Intolerable Acts was put into effect as a response to the Boston Tea Party that ultimately led to the revolution. Which also wasn't a very civillized affair.
 
DeafCaroline said:
History.

I've read various accounts of the Boston Tea Party and I also learned of it through literature. The anti-British sentiment was very high and as such, there was pillaging and violence against those loyal to the Crown and their property. They were violently driven out. Settlers were furious with the ever increasing taxes and did not react well to tea merchants and other members of the British trade companies. Or any British subject really professing loyalty to England.

It was this surging anti-British sentiment that worsened after the Intolerable Acts was put into effect as a response to the Boston Tea Party that ultimately led to the revolution. Which also wasn't a very civillized affair.
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"History?" Kind of vague answer.

Do you have a specific source about the Boston Tea Party participants doing all those things that you posted (raping, burning houses, etc.)?
 
I majored in history and I minored in popular history. Do I have a specific source? Yes, university, textbooks, literature, accounts written by those who lived through it. White people and slaves.

You can't possibly think settlers would handle slaves brutally but handle British loyalists with white gloves. C'mon. These were the early days of settlement in a whole new world and the only laws were governed from abroad - and settlers were chafing with the ever increasing British taxes and restrictive laws. USA was built on the backs of slaves and indentured servants imported from the poorest regions of Europe. Those were rough and tumble days.
 
DeafCaroline said:
I majored in history and I minored in popular history. Do I have a specific source? Yes, university, textbooks, literature, accounts written by those who lived through it. White people and slaves.

You can't possibly think settlers would handle slaves brutally but handle British loyalists with white gloves. C'mon. These were the early days of settlement in a whole new world and the only laws were governed from abroad - and settlers were chafing with the ever increasing British taxes and restrictive laws. USA was built on the backs of slaves and indentured servants imported from the poorest regions of Europe. Those were rough and tumble days.
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Did you read the Eyewitness Account by George Hewes of post #1721?

You certainly attribute a lot of action to such a small band of men to accomplish in just one night.

BTW, what is "popular" history?
 
DeafCaroline said:
I majored in history and I minored in popular history. Do I have a specific source? Yes, university, textbooks, literature, accounts written by those who lived through it. White people and slaves.

You can't possibly think settlers would handle slaves brutally but handle British loyalists with white gloves. C'mon. These were the early days of settlement in a whole new world and the only laws were governed from abroad - and settlers were chafing with the ever increasing British taxes and restrictive laws. USA was built on the backs of slaves and indentured servants imported from the poorest regions of Europe. Those were rough and tumble days.
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There was a bit of violence during the Boston Tea Party, but it mostly involved escaping crew running through gauntlets of crowds on the wharfs, who would hit them or kick them as they ran through. The Boston Tea Party was just the beginning, though, because:

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Coercive Acts

In response to the Boston Tea Party, Parliament passed several acts to punish Massachusetts. The Boston Port Bill banned the loading or unloading of any ships in Boston harbor. The Administration of Justice Act offered protection to royal officials in Massachusetts, allowing them to transfer to England all court cases against them involving riot suppression or revenue collection. The Massachusetts Government Act put the election of most government officials under the control of the Crown, essentially eliminating the Massachusetts charter of government."

I found the above in Boston Tea Party Historical Society

There isn't much mention of blood and guts in history books, but in those days, we didn't mind shooting the Brits. :giggle:
 
Steinhauer said:
:ty:

That is one heck of a restoration.
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Yes, it was. You can actually board the bus!

The museum is full of such historical vehicles. Even spending a whole day there isn't enough.

I took this picture there:
 

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Reba said:
Did you read the Eyewitness Account by George Hewes of post #1721?

You certainly attribute a lot of action to such a small band of men to accomplish in just one night.

BTW, what is "popular" history?
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I meant before, during and after the Boston Tea Party, there was anti-British sentiment and it was at times violent. Slaves have given accounts of being stolen from British Loyalists and resold to a Patriot. It didn't just start and end one night.

Popular history means accounts of history from the everyday person. It can be studies of their stories, songs, poetry, art, culture, literature, paintings. It can be studies of origins affecting how they speak, socialize, interact. It can be studies of their language, how they spoke in every day life. It can be studies of folklore.

To give an example, I studied popular history of chldren's poems, the origins of them, for example, "Ring around the rosy, pockets full of posy" was about the plague. Herbs were worn to fend of the plague, futilely.

Or, in slave folklore, B'rer Rabbit has its origins from the original stories told by Africans of a trickster, often portrayed as a hare, slippery and mischevious who liked to enact revenge.
 
Beowulf said:
There was a bit of violence during the Boston Tea Party, but it mostly involved escaping crew running through gauntlets of crowds on the wharfs, who would hit them or kick them as they ran through. The Boston Tea Party was just the beginning, though, because:

" 1774
Coercive Acts

In response to the Boston Tea Party, Parliament passed several acts to punish Massachusetts. The Boston Port Bill banned the loading or unloading of any ships in Boston harbor. The Administration of Justice Act offered protection to royal officials in Massachusetts, allowing them to transfer to England all court cases against them involving riot suppression or revenue collection. The Massachusetts Government Act put the election of most government officials under the control of the Crown, essentially eliminating the Massachusetts charter of government."

I found the above in Boston Tea Party Historical Society

There isn't much mention of blood and guts in history books, but in those days, we didn't mind shooting the Brits. :giggle:
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There's a saying: "history books are written by the victors."
 
DeafCaroline said:
There's a saying: "history books are written by the victors."
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Absolutely. It is weird how today's history teaches that we were a calm, cool, and collected bunch during the Revolutionary War. It goes utterly contrary to plain old human nature. :roll:
 
Beowulf said:
...There isn't much mention of blood and guts in history books, but in those days, we didn't mind shooting the Brits. :giggle:
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The Brits did their share of shooting. :cool2:

I lost one direct ancestor at the Battle of Groton Heights (Connecticut). It was a massacre by the British. The Americans had surrendered.

"Major Bromfield the only senior [British] officer left standing commanded "Who commands this fort?" with that Col. Ledyard [American] stepped forward, raising and lowering his sword as he said "I did sir but you do now..." as was customary to honor the victor. Bromfield ... lunged toward Ledyard killing him with one stab through the heart and lungs. Ledyard fell and thus began the massacre of the defenders...."
 
Reba said:
The Brits did their share of shooting. :cool2:

I lost one direct ancestor at the Battle of Groton Heights (Connecticut). It was a massacre by the British. The Americans had surrendered.

"Major Bromfield the only senior [British] officer left standing commanded "Who commands this fort?" with that Col. Ledyard [American] stepped forward, raising and lowering his sword as he said "I did sir but you do now..." as was customary to honor the victor. Bromfield ... lunged toward Ledyard killing him with one stab through the heart and lungs. Ledyard fell and thus began the massacre of the defenders...."
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Oh, yes indeed, the Brits were rather brutal and vicious a lot of times. Both sides were, I point out.
 
Beowulf said:
Oh, yes indeed, the Brits were rather brutal and vicious a lot of times. Both sides were, I point out.
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Well, war is a brutal and vicious enterprise.
 
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