Declaration of Occupy Wall Street

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My first degree was an AA in liberal arts at a two-year junior college. All my credits were transferable to the four-year college where I got my BS in political science. Even all my CLEP credits.
 
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Cheetah said:
Actually, my community college credits did not transfer 1:1. For many classes they transferred 1 1/2 credits for every 3 credits. I had to repeat a few basic classes because of that. It was based on whatever the college felt was equivalent.
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When I transferred from junior college to university, I didn't have to repeat any courses.

A lot probably depends on the major program, and also whether or not the student changes majors from one school to the next.
 
All this talk of college has a meaning? That the protesters ought to matriculate?
 
Beowulf said:
All this talk of college has a meaning? That the protesters ought to matriculate?
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The only possible meaning it has is to illustrate another case of those who don't trying to tell those who do how to do it.:giggle:
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Lol, they tried sooooooo hard to get her out. This is the reversal of the "fake" motorcycle accident.

And I didn't see any violence in that video. I saw a bunch of angry people who were being pain in the asses to the Koch brothers' little shindig in DC last night, but violence? nah.
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There was plenty of violence too. Do you need links? Heck there were even people jumping in front of moving cars..

Car Strikes 3 at Occupy DC Protest | NBC Washington

Occupy The Koch Brothers: Violence, Injuries, And Arrests At DC Protest - Forbes
 
TXgolfer said:
There was plenty of violence too. Do you need links? Heck there were even people jumping in front of moving cars..

Car Strikes 3 at Occupy DC Protest | NBC Washington

Occupy The Koch Brothers: Violence, Injuries, And Arrests At DC Protest - Forbes
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I see nothing in there about real violence. Just some trumped-up stuff about aggressive tactics, which granted, are not really helping the cause at all, but this is really reaching here to try and make what happened last night in DC look like some sort of violent uprising. LOL.

And wow, a DC pedestrian was walking in front of a car on a green light and acting like he owned the road????? Say it ain't so!? :roll: I see that shit every day. I'm glad the car hit him. There are so many asshats like that in this city. I hope the next one to get hit is a hipster on a fixie ignoring all the traffic rules.
 
Great. Now they're setting up women-only tents to protect women from sexual assault: Women at Occupy Wall Street protest put up female-only tents to avoid rape - NYPOST.com

It's time for this to end. Is anyone with me on this? I mean, put politics aside. If I were being politically shrewd, I'd say let it continue because it's only downhill from here and the more coverage it gets, the more it's going to damage the left. I would have agreement on that from the right (link) and the left (link). However, I can't in good conscience cheer for this thing to continue when it's become such a magnet for sexual assault. Anybody with me?
 
darkdog said:
Great. Now they're setting up women-only tents to protect women from sexual assault: Women at Occupy Wall Street protest put up female-only tents to avoid rape - NYPOST.com

It's time for this to end. Is anyone with me on this? I mean, put politics aside. If I were being politically shrewd, I'd say let it continue because it's only downhill from here and the more coverage it gets, the more it's going to damage the left. I would have agreement on that from the right (link) and the left (link). However, I can't in good conscience cheer for this thing to continue when it's become such a magnet for sexual assault. Anybody with me?
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The irony is that OWS IS being conservative by demanding laws be upheld and that the government hold Wall Street accountable for their actions. It's not such a left concept as one would think.

The rape of women - that's a separate issue that is not related to OWS. if a cop raped a woman, would you say "well, let's dismantle the entire police force beause this is making them look bad"?
 
DeafCaroline said:
The irony is that OWS IS being conservative by demanding laws be upheld and that the government hold Wall Street accountable for their actions. It's not such a left concept as one would think.

The rape of women - that's a separate issue that is not related to OWS. if a cop raped a woman, would you say "well, let's dismantle the entire police force beause this is making them look bad"?
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Good point.

I find it interesting that those who oppose OWS on the grounds of rape don't mention that tent "safe houses" have been built to protect the female OWS protesters.

A true revolutionary movement would have burned everything down.

As for the violence in Oakland, there's rumors of the Black Bloc starting the violence down there. When I first heard of the men in black, I thought something was fishy but it never occurred to me that they would try to start a riot. I thought it was fishy that they'd hide their faces in a sea of unmasked protesters. This was hours before the riots started. Now many OWS protesters are becoming suspicious of masked men in black. I don't blame the protesters.

Many - myself included- think it's possible the masked men actually were cops in disguise trying to stir things up. It's also possible there were others who wanted to stir things up as well.
 
deafskeptic said:
A true revolutionary movement would have burned everything down.
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The Boston Tea Party comes to mind. They didn't just throw tea overboard - they went nuts and burned down British citizens and Loyalists' homes and businesses, they raped British women and stole their slaves or killed them. It was far far worse than what's OWS doing now.
 
DeafCaroline said:
The Boston Tea Party comes to mind. They didn't just throw tea overboard - they went nuts and burned down British citizens and Loyalists' homes and businesses, they raped British women and stole their slaves or killed them. It was far far worse than what's OWS doing now.
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Yep.
 
DeafCaroline said:
The irony is that OWS IS being conservative by demanding laws be upheld and that the government hold Wall Street accountable for their actions. It's not such a left concept as one would think.
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No they're not. A conservative would protest lawlessness by not breaking the law. They're doing it all wrong. It's not legal to squat on private and public property, refuse to get the proper permits and insurance, camp out for weeks on end, and refuse to leave when the property owners and/or the city tells them to leave. They don't show respect for the law when they discourage sexual assault victims from going to the police and instead handle it with their own feckless internal security group. That's not the way to express a grievance. The conservative thing would be to follow the law, pay the fees, respect the police, express their views, and then go home at night.

DeafCaroline said:
The rape of women - that's a separate issue that is not related to OWS. if a cop raped a woman, would you say "well, let's dismantle the entire police force beause this is making them look bad"?
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Totally separate, except OWS is now having to set up shelters to protect women who get assaulted at OWS. They commit all of the above lawlessness while creating unsanitary and unsafe conditions and then act all surprised when lowlifes create problems. Hey, I guess setting up special tents is better than nothing, but when it gets to that point, it's time to pack up and go home. If they want to continue with a more traditional and civilized style of protesting rather than creating these utopian communes, I'm all for that. Frankly, it would probably be better for their cause, too.

If a cop rapes a woman, fire him and prosecute him. If it becomes a systemic problem, it's time for an independent investigation and a serious shake-up of the department. Unlike OWS, the police is actually vital for the smooth functioning of society, so we can't just break them up, but there are other actions we can take.
 
darkdog said:
No they're not. A conservative would protest lawlessness by not breaking the law. They're doing it all wrong. It's not legal to squat on private and public property, refuse to get the proper permits and insurance, camp out for weeks on end, and refuse to leave when the property owners and/or the city tells them to leave. They don't show respect for the law when they discourage sexual assault victims from going to the police and instead handle it with their own feckless internal security group. That's not the way to express a grievance. The conservative thing would be to follow the law, pay the fees, respect the police, express their views, and then go home at night.


Totally separate, except OWS is now having to set up shelters to protect women who get assaulted at OWS. They commit all of the above lawlessness while creating unsanitary and unsafe conditions and then act all surprised when lowlifes create problems. Hey, I guess setting up special tents is better than nothing, but when it gets to that point, it's time to pack up and go home. If they want to continue with a more traditional and civilized style of protesting rather than creating these utopian communes, I'm all for that. Frankly, it would probably be better for their cause, too.

If a cop rapes a woman, fire him and prosecute him. If it becomes a systemic problem, it's time for an independent investigation and a serious shake-up of the department. Unlike OWS, the police is actually vital for the smooth functioning of society, so we can't just break them up, but there are other actions we can take.
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Only conservatives? Dude, there are protesters of all spectrums here. :giggle:
 
darkdog said:
No they're not. A conservative would protest lawlessness by not breaking the law. They're doing it all wrong. It's not legal to squat on private and public property, refuse to get the proper permits and insurance, camp out for weeks on end, and refuse to leave when the property owners and/or the city tells them to leave. They don't show respect for the law when they discourage sexual assault victims from going to the police and instead handle it with their own feckless internal security group. That's not the way to express a grievance. The conservative thing would be to follow the law, pay the fees, respect the police, express their views, and then go home at night.


Totally separate, except OWS is now having to set up shelters to protect women who get assaulted at OWS. They commit all of the above lawlessness while creating unsanitary and unsafe conditions and then act all surprised when lowlifes create problems. Hey, I guess setting up special tents is better than nothing, but when it gets to that point, it's time to pack up and go home. If they want to continue with a more traditional and civilized style of protesting rather than creating these utopian communes, I'm all for that. Frankly, it would probably be better for their cause, too.

If a cop rapes a woman, fire him and prosecute him. If it becomes a systemic problem, it's time for an independent investigation and a serious shake-up of the department. Unlike OWS, the police is actually vital for the smooth functioning of society, so we can't just break them up, but there are other actions we can take.
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When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat, she was breaking the law...sometimes civil disobedience is necessary when the laws are unjust.

Anyway, I get your point and I do wish some of the protestors would stop giving others a bad name and detracting from the whole point of OWS.
 
Beowulf said:
Only conservatives? Dude, there are protesters of all spectrums here. :giggle:
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There are the Ron Paul types. I doubt they'd call themselves conservative, or if they did, they would distance themselves from what we normally refer to as conservative. But for the most part, it's a leftist movement.
 
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