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TXgolfer said:
jillio said:
VCU Office of Undergraduate Admissions – Transfer students
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Just because Virginia accepts a degree conferment transfer does not mean that transfer credits apply credit for credit to another degree. :roll: Junior standing is a reference to hours completed, not necessarily courses taken. If you will read the sentence behind the ones you bolded, you will have a clue as to what I am talking about.

Additionally, you are talking about people who have completed a 2 year degree. Not all students transferring to another school have completed a degree. In those cases, transfer credits are figured on an equivilancy basis.

What you are referring to is not a transfer. It is completion of one degree at one school, and then going to another school to complete an additional degree.
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jillio said:
Evidently, there are a few posters who are confused about the transfer process when it comes to credits. Not all 4 year universities accept credit for credit on anything taken at a 2 year university, or even another 4 year university. It is an equivilancy process. Just because you had what a 2 year or another 4 year university calls English 101 doesn't mean that you automatically get credit for the course called English 101 at the school you are transferring into. Likewise, if you transfer quarter hours into a semester hours school,or vice versa you are going to run into some issues in transferring your credits.

But hey, don't take my word for it. I only spent several years figuring credits for students.
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oh? are you an admissions officer or similar?

I've never heard of university not accepting English 101 credit from other school... unless that school is non-accredited or the student failed to reach minimum grade which is, in most case, C or above.

if it's some English course such as Introduction to Drama Writing or whatever it's called... it's 50-50 that it may or may not be transferred. and I think most students are aware of this. In community colleges, most students take introductory courses that are transferable.

but really.... this such detail is trivial especially in this thread. this thread is about OWS and some of protesters are students being victim of massive college debts.
 
Jiro said:
oh? are you an admissions officer or similar?

I've never heard of university not accepting English 101 credit from other school... unless that school is non-accredited or the student failed to reach minimum grade which is, in most case, C or above.
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I think jillio is saying credit for English 101 at one school doesn't mean it's automatically accepted as equivalent of English 101 at another school. Some schools may accept them, some don't. Depends on which you're transferring to.

Quote from "Transferring from Community College to 4 Year College" :

"If you have a specific four-year college in mind, make sure that the credits you earn at your community college are transferable to that college."
 
Jiro said:
oh? are you an admissions officer or similar?

I've never heard of university not accepting English 101 credit from other school... unless that school is non-accredited or the student failed to reach minimum grade which is, in most case, C or above.

if it's some English course such as Introduction to Drama Writing or whatever it's called... it's 50-50 that it may or may not be transferred. and I think most students are aware of this. In community colleges, most students take introductory courses that are transferable.

but really.... this such detail is trivial in this thread. this thread is about OWS and some of protesters are students being victim of massive college debts.
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Actually, my community college credits did not transfer 1:1. For many classes they transferred 1 1/2 credits for every 3 credits. I had to repeat a few basic classes because of that. It was based on whatever the college felt was equivalent.
 
DeafCaroline said:
I think jillio is saying credit for English 101 at one school doesn't mean it's automatically accepted as equivalent of English 101 at another school. Some schools may accept them, some don't. Depends on which you're transferring to.

Quote from "Transferring from Community College to 4 Year College" :

"If you have a specific four-year college in mind, make sure that the credits you earn at your community college are transferable to that college."
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Cheetah said:
Actually, my community college credits did not transfer 1:1. For many classes they transferred 1 1/2 credits for every 3 credits. I had to repeat a few basic classes because of that. It was based on whatever the college felt was equivalent.
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very simple. see my Post #1655 and Post #1615.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Purdue does not accept ANY transfer credit in introductory English. You must take the English 106 course at Purdue, which is a unique program among universities. It is also considered the best. That's just one example why a college might not accept transfer credit from a CC or other university. There are many more.
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Mine does. It still doesn't mean we're wrong and neither are you. We both are right. There are thousands of colleges. Simple - check before you sign up.

If not - sorry and tough luck. and if Purdue does not accept transfer credit, then they wouldn't go to community college in the first place, wouldn't they?
 
Jiro said:
Mine does. It still doesn't mean we're wrong and neither are you. We both are right. There are thousands of colleges. Simple - check before you sign up.

If not - sorry and tough luck. and if Purdue does not accept transfer credit, then they wouldn't go to community college in the first place, wouldn't they?
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You said you'd never heard of any university that doesn't accept English 101 transfer credit.

I gave you an example (one of many) where that is in fact the case.

So, now you cannot make that claim anymore. If you agree to that, then I will agree that we are both right.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
You said you'd never heard of any university that doesn't accept English 101 transfer credit.

I gave you an example (one of many) where that is in fact the case.

So, now you cannot make that claim anymore. If you agree to that, then I will agree that we are both right.
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Fair enough but let me ask you this.

You stated that your university has a unique program. If I applied to Purdue University for say... math degree, would they accept my English 101 course? or are you saying Purdue does not accept accept any introductory English course for ALL degree programs?
 
jillio said:
Evidently, there are a few posters who are confused about the transfer process when it comes to credits. Not all 4 year universities accept credit for credit on anything taken at a 2 year university, or even another 4 year university. It is an equivilancy process. Just because you had what a 2 year or another 4 year university calls English 101 doesn't mean that you automatically get credit for the course called English 101 at the school you are transferring into. Likewise, if you transfer quarter hours into a semester hours school,or vice versa you are going to run into some issues in transferring your credits.

But hey, don't take my word for it. I only spent several years figuring credits for students.
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Sounds like poor planning. IMO
 
jillio said:
TXgolfer said:
Just because Virginia accepts a degree conferment transfer does not mean that transfer credits apply credit for credit to another degree. :roll: Junior standing is a reference to hours completed, not necessarily courses taken. If you will read the sentence behind the ones you bolded, you will have a clue as to what I am talking about.

Additionally, you are talking about people who have completed a 2 year degree. Not all students transferring to another school have completed a degree. In those cases, transfer credits are figured on an equivilancy basis.

What you are referring to is not a transfer. It is completion of one degree at one school, and then going to another school to complete an additional degree.
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Exactly which is why I replied twice to the same post. It's pretty easy to transfer credits though.... Especially if you plan from the beginning.
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DeafCaroline said:
I think jillio is saying credit for English 101 at one school doesn't mean it's automatically accepted as equivalent of English 101 at another school. Some schools may accept them, some don't. Depends on which you're transferring to.

Quote from "Transferring from Community College to 4 Year College" :

"If you have a specific four-year college in mind, make sure that the credits you earn at your community college are transferable to that college."
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Yeppers, and the staff is usually very helpful with that. And as Jiro and I pointed out there are websites for checking as well
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Purdue does not accept ANY transfer credit in introductory English. You must take the English 106 course at Purdue, which is a unique program among universities. It is also considered the best. That's just one example why a college might not accept transfer credit from a CC or other university. There are many more.
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They won't accept it as an elective credit even?
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Yes, it is unique in the design of the program, not necessarily the rules for transferring credit. Many universities will make you take their intro writing course. The reason is because writing is such an essential skill to have for almost every academic discipline, so a university wants you to be tuned in their approach to academic writing.

As for your question: I'm not quite sure, since you already have a BS (correct?). You wouldn't exactly be a transfer student at this point, so you might be able to apply directly to the degree program and not worry about GE. BUT, and I could be mistaken here, Purdue does not allow you to use credits if they have already been applied in obtaining a degree. This is the case in graduate programs. I do not know if it matters for obtaining a second (or third) BA/BS. Only an academic adviser could say for sure.

I do have a friend, however, who already had a BA in English from Texas State, and he decided to go back to school at Purdue for a BS in Computer Science. He must do the ENTIRE undergraduate program. That's four whole more years of schooling for him.
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BS in Computer Science at Purdue? I wouldn't go there for CS but hey - that's his choice and decision to do another 4 years there.

I'm assuming that he knows what he's getting into including all expenses involved.... and by doing that, he doesn't really get to complain about "$90,000 college debt. no job.", don't you agree?
 
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I don't know. I doubt it. All I know for sure is that I regularly had sophmores, juniors, and even seniors who had transferred from other universities and had taken freshman composition at those universities, but they were in my class because "their adviser forced them." :evil:
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According to this it must transfer if from another Indiana school

https://selfservice.mypurdue.purdue.edu/prod/bzwtxcrd.p_select_info

I tried transferring Eng 101 from ISU-TH and it transferred as Eng 10100 at Purdue. There was even a cross indicating it was part of the transfer Indiana initiative. An articulation agreement like I noted earlier. Possible that they accept the credit but still require the course you mentioned.

:dunno:
 
Indiana also has this....

TransferIN.net

Which is the kind of stuff Jiro and I mentioned in other states. It should be easy to plan for transferring really.

If I were a freshman planning to transfer to Purdue I would probably just skip comp and take it there. Problem solved.
 
Jiro said:
BS in Computer Science at Purdue? I wouldn't go there for CS but hey - that's his choice and decision to do another 4 years there.

I'm assuming that he knows what he's getting into including all expenses involved.... and by doing that, he doesn't really get to complain about "$90,000 college debt. no job.", don't you agree?
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Eh? Purdue is one of the top schools for CS. Google-based Ranking of Computer Science and Engineering Departments

They also have the Steele supercomputer: Steele (supercomputer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which was pretty damn fast when they built it two years ago.

Anyway, I'm sure my friend is going to be bitching about his debt, but I don't think he'll be asking for any handouts. Also, he works and so does his wife.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Eh? Purdue is one of the top schools for CS. Google-based Ranking of Computer Science and Engineering Departments

They also have the Steele supercomputer: Steele (supercomputer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which was pretty damn fast when they built it two years ago.

Anyway, I'm sure my friend is going to be bitching about his debt, but I don't think he'll be asking for any handouts. Also, he works and so does his wife.
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This ranking list doesn't mean anything to me because if I graduated from Purdue, I still won't be one of the top programmers anyway and I most likely won't ever use Steele supercomputer. Virginia Tech built supercomputer too and I've never used it when I was an engineering/CS student there. That's why bunch of graduates aren't being hired. They have nothing special to contribute to me (general me as in corporations). I can simply hire somebody cheaper in India for exactly same thing. Sorry but it's business and it's all about $$$. Free country. I'm allowed to hire whoever.

I pick school with only 2 criteria in mind for cost-analysis benefit - what is its speciality and how much. MIT's CS program and Purdue's CS program have different type of speciality and of course... different price.

For example - last year, I wanted to pursue an advanced degree in GIS. Top three contenders on my list are Penn State, UCLA, and Rutgers. Rutgers is geared toward to oceanography/hydrology/remote sensing while UCLA is geared toward to geography/remote sensing while Penn State is geared toward to urban planning but broad. I haven't decided yet but leaning toward to Penn State.

If your friend feels it was worth the price, sacrifice, and hardship... cool beano.
 
I don't see how this helps their argument...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U20Cvetv17M]Liberal Protester Uses Child As Human Shield - YouTube[/ame]
 
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