deaf 2 years old kids wear CI

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Oceanbreeze said:
You know what I find really appalling? One poster threw a grenade into this thread and derailed into ....this debate. The OP was venting about something she had a right to vent about and she was attacked for it. Now, instead of supporting the OP, we have pages of a debate that should really have never taken place.

It's sad.
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No shit...
 
faire_jour said:
I am a hearing parent of a Deaf child with a CI. She attends a bi-bi school for the Deaf with many Deaf teachers. I do that because I want her to be a part of the Deaf community. I want her to go to a Deaf school and I want her to be taught by Deaf teachers. Just because she has a CI doesn't mean I don't want those things for her. So what if they can speak, maybe the parents want both. Why can't they go to a Deaf school?
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I am sure your daughter do know the signs language right? here in this city, kids with CI don't even know signs, and their parents want their kids go to deaf school. How can they learn anything education or social with other kids who using the signs? they would feel lost and might being lonely. My school, one student wear ci and don't know signs in high school, he's really isolated and being all alone and also, sitting in the class do nothing..while deaf teacher teaching to everybody. I feel bad for this kid with ci for not knowing the signs and felt left out. Parents should know that deaf school always using the signs all the times. Maybe ur city have better than mine. So whyyyyyyyyyyyy did parents gave kids the CI and not teach the signs at all, if want them to be in deaf community? they should know ASL. Because deaf community is involved the ASL.
 
Cheri said:
And vallee has every right to feel what she feels too but instead she got attacked. :shrug:
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Not until she unreasonably attacked the OP. Vallee wasn't attacked for her opinion. She was called out on the way she was treating the OP because Vallee didn't even understand what the OP was saying.
 
jillio said:
I've already answered Bott's question. And, Bott is a she. I answered it a second time in replying to your post. What part of "consistently negative effects" do you have difficulty understanding?
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It's a yes or no question. Do all mainstreamed deaf children end up with social issues?
 
shel90 said:
jillio said:
Until you pointed it out and after all these attacks, I realized that I understood her on the spot without even thinking twice about it. I find it interesting for myself because I am a late ASL user. :lol:
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But you are fluent, and have a great deal of experience in daily use with other users.

I was a late comer, too, but I understood her post immediately. Never a question in my mind.
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Cheri said:
And vallee has every right to feel what she feels too but instead she got attacked. :shrug:
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She should have asked first for clarification instead of jumping the gun. Like I have said before, misunderstandings happen here on AD too many times.

That's why that is a BIG problem btw the hearing and Deaf communities even out there..
 
shel90 said:
Until you pointed it out and after all these attacks, I realized that I understood her on the spot without even thinking twice about it. I find it interesting for myself because I am a late ASL user. :lol:
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same here. i also didn't have any difficulty understanding the op and i started learning asl when i was 24.
 
Hear Again said:
well, i think children with ci's have just as much a right to attend a deaf school as any other child. after all, the child is still deaf.
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That's right. In fact, it's possible that the child might even have their needs met better if they went to a deaf school.
 
faire_jour said:
It's a yes or no question. Do all mainstreamed deaf children end up with social issues?
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What part of my answer, twice repeated, do you not understand, faire jour? What the heck do you think that "consistently negative effects" means? Just because you aren't getting the "no" that would make you happy, doesn't mean that the question hasn't been answered.
 
jillio said:
shel90 said:
But you are fluent, and have a great deal of experience in daily use with other users.

I was a late comer, too, but I understood her post immediately. Never a question in my mind.
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Yea, fluency in ASL and understanding of the views of the Deaf community definitely made a big difference. If this was 15 years ago, I probably would have read it like those who arent fluent in ASL. Who knows.

That's why it is important for many of us to ask for clarification before jumping the gun on each other.
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Oceanbreeze said:
You know what I find really appalling? One poster threw a grenade into this thread and derailed into ....this debate. The OP was venting about something she had a right to vent about and she was attacked for it. Now, instead of supporting the OP, we have pages of a debate that should really have never taken place.

It's sad.
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agreed.
 
shel90 said:
She should have asked first for clarification instead of jumping the gun. Like I have said before, misunderstandings happen here on AD too many times.

That's why that is a BIG problem btw the hearing and Deaf communities even out there..
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Pretty good illustration of the misunderstandings of oral only communication in a classroom full of deaf kids, huh?
 
jillio said:
What part of my answer, twice repeated, do you not understand, faire jour? What the heck do you think that "consistently negative effects" means? Just because you aren't getting the "no" that would make you happy, doesn't mean that the question hasn't been answered.
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Consistently negative effect in summary means, "yes or at least a majority of them do. "
 
web730 said:
Well, I understand your point about the early auditory development, yes but those who don't teach sign language along is not good enough.

For those parents who were well informed, I am not against therefore... good. But please remember that many of them weren't well informed. fyi
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This is true.
 
shel90 said:
I honestly feel the same despair that Botts feel and u know what? Many other Deaf people feel the same way too. I think after 100 plus years of oppresion, protests, and education, it still all goes back to the same story...the hearing view is superior.[/QUOTE]

That's a myth. And we can bust it wide open just like the myth that a wet head causes a cold has been disproven.
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jillio said:
Pretty good illustration of the misunderstandings of oral only communication in a classroom full of deaf kids, huh?
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that's why I refuse to teach in an oral-only environment...too many misunderstandings and time would be wasted making the lessons ineffective. I have seen that firsthand before I studied Deaf ed at Gally...I feel for the kids because they dont deserve to be educated like that.
 
jillio said:
shel90 said:
I honestly feel the same despair that Botts feel and u know what? Many other Deaf people feel the same way too. I think after 100 plus years of oppresion, protests, and education, it still all goes back to the same story...the hearing view is superior.[/QUOTE]

That's a myth. And we can bust it wide open just like the myth that a wet head causes a cold has been disproven.
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Not my way of thinking but that's the way of thinking many hearing people even some deaf people think.
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