Confederate Flag

[society's_child]

Yeah, I agree; maybe those who hold dear the original meaning of this flag should raise another flag to go after these hate mongrels: an old Battle flag of the South. I'll try to see if I can find it; if I remember right, it was yellow and has an image of a snake on it.......

I'm intrigued. I'd like to see it.

 

[ncff07]

The Gadsden Flag.

history of the flag:
Gadsden flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Tousi]

Ah, thanks, ncff; this computer dummy here wasn't able find it.....hope it is appropos to what we are talking about.....:P

 

[society's_child]

The Gadsden Flag.

history of the flag:
Gadsden flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I recall seeing that image somewhere before...maybe it was on a t-shirt.

 

[Reba]

What do you guys think of North-born people displaying the Confederate flag?

If a Northerner moves to the South and wants to become part of that society, then it would make sense.

Like they say, "Northerner by birth, Southerner by God's good grace." :P

 

[Maria]

Education system in Europe is probably have rich of teach about WWI and WWII, just like American Civil War in USA but it depends on school system, some of them in America aren't good.

IF, some of school system in America isn't good, then how can the world get along due to their difference of education that they are bein' taught in their own school ?

Now, The questions are getting more deeper and detail about civil war.

Right. I am thinkin' more deeper to question about things, too.

Excuse me for off-topic about WWI and WWII.

No problem.

 

[Reba]

The Gadsden Flag.

history of the flag:
Gadsden flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I like that one, and the similar Naval Jack.

Don't Tread on Me Flag History

 

[Texan Guy]

Did y'all know that when the Marines from the southerner states fought and took over the highest point on Okinawa, during the World War 2 went on, raised the Confederate flag for the several minutes until their commander ordered them to replace it for USA flag. No punishment or court-martial for those Marines for raise that Confederate flag on that bloody island battle.

 

[Jiro]

I agree!

I do not like how the Hate Groups use, and abuse the Flag! It is because of them! That ruined the true meaning of it, to some people.

Just like Nazi destroyed the true meaning of swastika. It was copied after Buddha symbol.

 

[Byrdie714]

You don't recognize confederate flag as exist to use in southern states during modern time and there's nothing to stop them, it supposed to be none of your business if they use confederate flag as southern heritage or southern pride, that's their own.

In bold, I don't care if others are used as pride, even confederate flag is still popular used for southern pride, that what I know because of live in south.

So it is prideful to fly the Confederate flag because of your Southern heritage?

Southern heritage of what?

Losing a war 2 centuries ago, accepting handouts from us "carpetbaggers" to help you rebuild, supporting the top 3 poorest states in the country--Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas-- welfare cases, be involved in civil unrest by not allowing African-Americans the right to vote, desegregation of the schools in the South, and of course the likes of David Duke, Newt Gingrich, Jesse Helms, Trent Lott--

Yeah--be prideful of your little Southern flag. :roll:

Oh wait a minute---isn't being pride consider one of the 7 sins?

 

[Byrdie714]

If a Northerner moves to the South and wants to become part of that society, then it would make sense.

Like they say, "Northerner by birth, Southerner by God's good grace." :P

Just like a saying we have in the northern states when a Southerner moves to the North, "Southerner by birth, Northerner by choice."

Did y'all know that when the Marines from the southerner states fought and took over the highest point on Okinawa, during the World War 2 went on, raised the Confederate flag for the several minutes until their commander ordered them to replace it for USA flag. No punishment or court-martial for those Marines for raise that Confederate flag on that bloody island battle.

Link?

 

[Reba]

Just like a saying we have in the northern states when a Southerner moves to the North, "Southerner by birth, Northerner by choice."

That's funny; I grew up in the North, and I never heard anyone say that. In fact, I don't recall ever meeting any Southerners who moved North. I have met many, MANY Northerners who have moved South though.

 

[Byrdie714]

That's funny; I grew up in the North, and I never heard anyone say that. In fact, I don't recall ever meeting any Southerners who moved North. I have met many, MANY Northerners who have moved South though.

Because you haven't moved around enough.

 

[Reba]

Because you haven't moved around enough.

I've lived in various towns in Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, California, Illinois, Florida, and South Carolina. I've had extended stays (more than several weeks each) in Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and Maryland. A good mix of Northern, Southern, and Western states.

About 1/3 of the residents in our part of SC were born in other states. None of my neighbors are originally from SC. We have dozens of church members from Ohio and Michigan. Our previous pastor was from Ohio, via California, and our current pastor is from Idaho.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

OK, I looked at your links. They are time lines of historical events. What point are you trying to make? What do you mean about Europe? How does that fit into the discussion about the Confederate flag? Please explain.

The reason I'm trying to show you that it's not just America history over slavery, we (European) were being taught to learn about because some of you feel being insult and offensive by European's knowledge over America's history.

Of course. I'm old but I'm not that old.


News flash!


OK. We gather information from historical documents of that time.

My whole reason for mentioning my life in the South was because:

My Quote:
I'm exposed to the historic places of antebellum plantations, the Civil War in the South, and the descendants of the Confederates, both white and black. I've seen the proud black men participate in the Civil War reenactments. I've done research beyond my high school days.

Your Quote:
Me, too.

So I asked you when you "too" were in the South. When did you visit or live in the South?

Exactly, why I'm trying to explain you that you and I learn about America's history differently since
we were not born in that time and even haven't collect Civil War survivor's experience in real life since you claimed that the history you was being exposed is accurate.. How do we know that the history, we were being taught is accurate? You know that the history is not alway accurate. That's why I said "me too"... because we both were not born in that time but was being exposed to learn those history in different way.

Can you please explain why there're over thousands white and black people protest against confedernce flag in South Carolina? And also schools, too?

To which white people are you referring? Worldwide white people? People in the Confederate states? People in the Union states? In the American states some were European immigrants but by the time the Civil War started, the majority of white people were born in America, some since several generations.

Huh? I thought you know what I mean.

Okay, here...

European colonization of the Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not most but many.

"many"? I doubt.

 

[Daredevel7]

Come over to Alabama, Georgia (anywhere but ATL), or Mississippi....

In my opinion, North and South Carolina are too mixed to be truly "South" nowadays. The beaches/skiing resorts drew in new residents.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Jiro's poster was for the North.

Yes, it make sense that the posters was made in North, not in South.

Some slave owners allowed some of their slaves to learn to read and write, usually because it benefited the slave owner, not necessarily because he was "good." Also, some slaves learned to read on the sly. Some were probably self taught. Also, some freed blacks could teach other blacks to read. "Each one teach one," as the saying goes. Black people wrote letters and kept diaries. That's how we get some of their history.

Just because something was "illegal" doesn't mean it wasn't done. That was just as true in the 19th Century as it is now.

I would say very few, not some.

 

[society's_child]

Come over to Alabama, Georgia (anywhere but ATL), or Mississippi....

In my opinion, North and South Carolina are too mixed to be truly "South" nowadays. The beaches/skiing resorts drew in new residents.

I read somewhere that Atlanta is considered by many hardcore southerners as an "occupied" city. Meaning it's full of yankees. :P

 

[Liebling:-)))]

That probably explains why forgien countries have their war, because each country don't learn the same history as we have nor the same bia views as we have ....

Those people who support Confederate Flag as their heritage, they will STILL tell their true and accurate story against the American Flag we present -- same thing with Americans who support American Flag as their true Freedom/Independence/etc will tell their true and accurate story against the Confederate Flag as well.

Just like for example : Lieblin' came from Germany and she views/opinates differently than Americans -- same thing, the Americans' views/opinions are different than Germans.

How are we suppose to know/believe which one is TRUE and ACCURATE ?

How are we makin' peace with each/every country if, we ALL don't have the same history or bia views ?

Yes, you were right that we (Americans and Europeans) don't know either the history, we were being taught is accurate or not because we were not born at that time.

Look at an example: Northern Americans were being taught differently as Southern Americans over Confederate flag, Black Slavery history and Civil War. Northerners viewed confederence flag as a racism and Southerners viewed confederence flag as a Southern pride. They are Americans and were being taught differently.

See the example of the debate between Northern and Southern American Aders.

http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/15503-civil-war.html

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/37955-shld-blacks-forget-abt-slavery-move.html

 

[Daredevel7]

Heck, we don't even know the "truth" at present time! In reality, we don't know much about the Iraq War!