'Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone'

[Beowulf]

Well, who is "they" then?

People. Just people who are the victims of inexorable fate.
Sighhh...
Never mind. We know how you feel.
But hey, it's a free country.

 

[TXgolfer]

People. Just people who are the victims of inexorable fate.
Sighhh...
Never mind. We know how you feel.
But hey, it's a free country.

I doubt you do......You have yet to clarify who you were talking about when you asked

Do they not deserve our kindness and charity? Charity from just a voluntary few, or should there be a national policy to look after them?

 

[Reba]

Now we're getting somewhere. Do they not deserve our kindness and charity? Charity from just a voluntary few, or should there be a national policy to look after them?

The problem with a national policy is that it also gives the government the power to control whatever it doles out.

Whatever the Feds giveth, they can taketh away.

 

[Beowulf]

I doubt you do......You have yet to clarify who you were talking about when you asked

Shhhh, let me study their habits first.

 

[Beowulf]

The problem with a national policy is that it also gives the government the power to control whatever it doles out.

Whatever the Feds giveth, they can taketh away.

I declareff, it is like pulling teef.

 

[TXgolfer]

Shhhh, let me study their habits first.

Meh, it is pretty disingenuous to accuse me of using tactics to avoid answering a question when you are unwilling to clarify your question. I asked for clarification 4 times.

We can let it drop if you like, but let the record reflect that I tried.

 

[jillio]

Most rich pay for their own insurance. Most middle class have company paid private insurance as well if they are working. That may end if the government gets involved.
I know the older folks get Medicare too. Maybe that's what your speaking of?

How is it going to end if the government offers a plan for coverage for all. Anyone who is satisfied with their insurance coverage can continue with that insurance coverage.

Where to you get the idea that most rich pay for their own health insurance? And that most middle class have company paid insurance?

 

[Beowulf]

Meh, it is pretty disingenuous to accuse me of using tactics to avoid answering a question when you are unwilling to clarify your question. I asked for clarification 4 times.

We can let it drop if you like, but let the record reflect that I tried.

The danger here is dehumanizing the subject.
I am talking about people.
Those who cannot afford healthcare through no fault of their own.

 

[rolling7]

You are going to have to explain to us all exactly how Obama's policies redistribute wealth, and how exactly they fulfill the criteria for being socialist. You have no idea what the answers to these questions are, as you have demonstrated time and time again. You sit back and throw around words and key phrases that you can't even explain.

Resorting to name calling? Typical of those who don't have the knowledge or the intelligence to discuss the topic.:roll:

You should know better than to post this BS. You need to look in the mirror because anyone can look all through AD and come up with many post by you where you did name calling. That shows now true a hypocrite you are.

 

[TXgolfer]

The danger here is dehumanizing the subject.
I am talking about people.
Those who cannot afford healthcare through no fault of their own.

Ah, probably best to let it drop then.

 

[Beowulf]

Ah, probably best to let it drop then.

I thought the cream rises to the top?

 

[jillio]

For starters, those who have healthcare in the USA can use it anytime they so choose. They also get better care without waiting periods or being denied in most cases. Ask the Canadians why they come to America for their healthcare?

I think you have it reversed. More are going into Canada for healthcare and lower cost prescription medicines than the other way around.

The separation of church and state has nothing to do with God or religion and the government.
It most certainly does.
It only prevents the government from choosing your religion or church or faith.
And my freedom to choose my own religion means that the government will not sanction one religion above another, nor use one religion above another to make political and legal determinations. Perhaps it is you that should read a little further, and stop believing whatever it is the right and your pastor is feeding you.
Read more and you will understand that. Don't just believe what others are telling you on the left. Yes and thank God that I do have the freedom to pray to my God anytime and anywhere I want. That is on what and how this country was founded.

Again, you might want to delve into history a bit deeper.

If you are truly patriotic you do and will care about the other individuals that are living here. At least it's citizens. I'm patriotic does that mean I'm crazy or blind. Certainly not. I served my country in the Navy. I now serve as a police officer in my community. I believe in God and country, flying the flag, saluting it and singing the National Anthem. I guess that just means I love this country.

Lots of lip service. Means nothing.

I serious doubt that OWS will ever be as big as the Tea Party. They are not organized and mainly show up in small groups with no real purpose. They have affected very little change if any. The Tea Party on the other hand changed the face of the mid-term elections by ousting many iron clad seats and putting in fresh candidates. Unfortunately both parties are to blame for the mess that we're found to be in.
Well, you need to check your facts, because the movement has already outgrown the Tea Pary. They have effected very little change? They have people talking more than the Tea Party ever thought about. The first step to change to awareness and talk. OWS has accomplished that many times over. You would have to go no farther than this thread to find some accurate information, but you will need to read all of the posts and not just the right wing objections and attempts to discredit.

And as to why Steiny logs in and I log out? Gee whiz, duh, maybe it's because I live in Missouri and he is in Georgia? We don't live together or use the same computer and we don't call or text each other about when we will be online. Maybe, just maybe it is a coincidence??? Or maybe it's a conspiracy???!!!

What does you living in one state and him living in another have to do with whether the two of you can be logged on at the same time? I live in a different state than many posters here, but you will see us online at the same time.

 

[jillio]

The problem with a national policy is that it also gives the government the power to control whatever it doles out.

Whatever the Feds giveth, they can taketh away.

So, you would prefer that profit driven insurance companies have that power instead? Because that is where it stands currently. Just ask anyone who has paid into their private plan for 40 years and then had their claim denied when they were diagnosed with a catastrophic illness.

Ask the woman whose insurance company denied payment for treatment for broken bones because she was a known victim of domestic violence, which they used as a "pre-existing condition" to deny coverage.

Oh, I could go on and on and on and on.

 

[jillio]

The danger here is dehumanizing the subject.
I am talking about people.
Those who cannot afford healthcare through no fault of their own.

And again, one has to dehumanize to deny. That is exactly what is going on.

 

[Beowulf]

And again, one has to dehumanize to deny. That is exactly what is going on.

Yeah, I am jolly well aware of it.
I just cannot understand giving some cubicle-ensconsed insurance worker the power to override a doctor's professional judgement, but that's another topic.

 

[deafskeptic]

So, you would prefer that profit driven insurance companies have that power instead? Because that is where it stands currently. Just ask anyone who has paid into their private plan for 40 years and then had their claim denied when they were diagnosed with a catastrophic illness.

Ask the woman whose insurance company denied payment for treatment for broken bones because she was a known victim of domestic violence, which they used as a "pre-existing condition" to deny coverage.

Oh, I could go on and on and on and on.

It's a good thing my dad is on medicare now or his insurance would drop him when he got dx'd with stage 3 cancer.

 

[jillio]

Yeah, I am jolly well aware of it.
I just cannot understand giving some cubicle-ensconsed insurance worker the power to override a doctor's professional judgement, but that's another topic.

Me, either. But it would seem that those fighting so hard against health care reform see that as a perfectly acceptable situation, especially in the case of denial of claims, labeling treatment as unnecessary, and denying coverage for "pre-exisiting conditions".

 

[TXgolfer]

Yeah, I am jolly well aware of it.
I just cannot understand giving some cubicle-ensconsed insurance worker the power to override a doctor's professional judgement, but that's another topic.

Ah yes....so much better to give that responsibility to cubicle-ensconsed government worker.

 

[jillio]

It's a good thing my dad is on medicare now or his insurance would drop him when he got dx'd with stage 3 cancer.

He would have maxed out his benefits and been dropped like a hot potato!

 

[Reba]

So, you would prefer that profit driven insurance companies have that power instead? Because that is where it stands currently. Just ask anyone who has paid into their private plan for 40 years and then had their claim denied when they were diagnosed with a catastrophic illness.

Ask the woman whose insurance company denied payment for treatment for broken bones because she was a known victim of domestic violence, which they used as a "pre-existing condition" to deny coverage.

Oh, I could go on and on and on and on.

How do you know that inequities won't happen under Obamacare?

You've never heard of people being dropped or denied services who were under government healthcare plans?

What do you think will happen when government funds are running low (or run out)?