Cochlear recalls Nucleus CI500

Cloggy said:
Excellent.. Who here has raised deaf children that grew up hearing with CI??
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Wouldn't you rather hear straight from the horse's mouth itself which would be adults who grew up with CIs?
 
Banjo said:
Exactly my point. You have no qualifications since this is your first time raising a deaf child. So are a lot of parents you come in contact with. 99% of people you talk to only has raised a deaf child, not two, not three. Nearly none of the parents are deaf as well. So hardly any of them would know squat about how to raise a deaf child, they rely on some so-called professionals and support groups, which none of them are experts in the field of parenting.

However, I am deaf, you are not. Big difference.
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We are not raising a deaf child that cannot hear, we are raising a deaf child that can hear...

Who in this messageboard has experience with that..?? NOT you..
But I'll gladly listen to your input as a deaf person that cannot hear...
 
Cloggy said:
We are not raising a deaf child that cannot hear, we are raising a deaf child that can hear...

Who in this messageboard has experience with that..?? NOT you..
But I'll gladly listen to your input as a deaf person that cannot hear...
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Me? I can hear, I wear a hearing aid. Therefore, I can hear. By the way, you're still raising a deaf child... for the first time.
 
Food for thought....

The following 2 statements are assumed true:

1) A Deaf person can't "relate" to a deaf person with a CI because the latter can "hear".

2) All parents agree that their CI kids, while being able to hear well, cannot hear perfectly nor as well as a hearing person.

Fine.

What about listening to those who are hard of hearing? They still CAN hear well and even talk on the phone. Just like the CI kids, right?

What say you, HOH folks?
 
Jiro said:
not me.
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Yes, you already made that clear... in action and words...

Jiro said:
who here grew up as deaf children with CI/HA? me! me! me!
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So... nothing about raising a deaf child that can hear...
Could you understand conversation with your HAs? Telephone, whispering, conversations between different rooms?
 
Cloggy said:
Yes, you already made that clear... in action and words...

So... nothing about raising a deaf child that can hear...
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So that makes you more qualified and experienced than deaf people who can hear especially your own child when she becomes an adult?

Cloggy said:
Could you understand conversation with your HAs?
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yes. I'm guessing you still think you're more experienced and qualified than me?

Cloggy said:
Telephone,
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no

Cloggy said:
whispering,
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no

Cloggy said:
conversations between different rooms?
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what's that???
 
Banjo said:
Me? I can hear, I wear a hearing aid. Therefore, I can hear.
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It sounds to me that there's a grey zone between "I'm deaf" and "I can hear"... Deaf can mean that you can still hear. Hear with HA's can mean that you pick up sounds but cannot understand speech..
Where are you?

Banjo said:
By the way, you're still raising a deaf child (that can hear - added by cloggy)... for the first time.
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Uhh.. and why are you repeating the obvious and already confirmed..??
 
Cloggy said:
It sounds to me that there's a grey zone between "I'm deaf" and "I can hear"... Deaf can mean that you can still hear. Hear with HA's can mean that you pick up sounds but cannot understand speech..
Where are you?

Uhh.. and why are you repeating the obvious and already confirmed..??
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there's no grey zone. Take away all technology.... what do you get? deaf people!

Include all these wonderful technology... what do you get? still deaf people!

If you think otherwise... well there you go. a big problem beginning with you.
 
Cloggy said:
We are not raising a deaf child that cannot hear, we are raising a deaf child that can hear...

Who in this messageboard has experience with that..?? NOT you..
But I'll gladly listen to your input as a deaf person that cannot hear...
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I can hear ...

Just like Banjo said. I can hear with my HAs.
 
Cloggy said:
Another "No"
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why don't I answer this question for you? Even my audiologist nor doctor wouldn't assume to answer this question.

Cloggy said:
Just to make sure we are on the same sign...
Qualified for what?
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Qualified..... as in you know what it's like to be deaf - culturally, socially, and medically.
 
Jiro said:
there's no grey zone. Take away all technology.... what do you get? deaf people!

Include all these wonderful technology... what do you get? still deaf people!

If you think otherwise... well there you go. a big problem beginning with you.
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The question is.... How much do deaf people hear?
 
It all comes back to the same age-old question. If we can't hear enough, can we function?

Wow, I must be supernatural in that I can breathe, eat, sleep, work, drive a car, have family, friends, text, surf the internet. Same as ANYBODY else. My deafness has never stopped me from doing anything I want to do. NOTHING.
 
Jiro said:
why don't I answer this question for you? Even my audiologist nor doctor wouldn't assume to answer this question.
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:dunno:
Jiro said:
Qualified..... as in you know what it's like to be deaf - culturally, socially, and medically.
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AH... NO.. we're on a different page...
So you changed the subject.... Ah, well, good think I asked you..

Answer for this new question is "no"..
So.. I don't know what it means to be deaf - culturally, socially, and medically.
You don't know about raising a deaf child that can hear, use the telephone, whisper, shouts from the toilet and understands the answer....

But really... we already knew that...
 
AlleyCat said:
It all comes back to the same age-old question. If we can't hear enough, can we function?

Wow, I must be supernatural in that I can breathe, eat, sleep, work, drive a car, have family, friends, text, surf the internet. Same as ANYBODY else. My deafness has never stopped me from doing anything I want to do. NOTHING.
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really? you can drive? work? hang out with friends? same privilege as anybody else??? all this as a deaf person???

:bowdown:
 
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