cochlear implants

[Cheri]

I can understand football and boxing...I won't let my normal hearing son do either one.

normal hearing son? I never heard anyone say "normal" before. What is normal anyways?

 

[sr171soars]

normal hearing son? I never heard anyone say "normal" before. What is normal anyways?

Sorry for throwing the word normal into it. I have heard it before and I didn't think about it. One can be able to hear normally but be physically unable to do normal activities... *Sigh* too many adjectives being brandied about...

 

[Boult]

well a ci users can play football, basketball, swimming, bicycling, boxing etc even scuba diving (recreational only) the only thing I know that one ci user can't go there is deep sea diving because the atmosphere depth is lot stronger than scuba diving.

kickboxing, rugby and ice hockey should be avoided because of heavy contact then other sports above. those three usually goes without helmets even in ice hockey (of course field hockey should be avoided too so is lacrosses) anyway

here's a link that talk about CI and sports;
http://deafness.about.com/od/basicsofcochlearimplants/a/cisports.htm

 

[ayala920]

well a ci users can play football, basketball, swimming, bicycling, boxing etc even scuba diving (recreational only) the only thing I know that one ci user can't go there is deep sea diving because the atmosphere depth is lot stronger than scuba diving.

kickboxing, rugby and ice hockey should be avoided because of heavy contact then other sports above. those three usually goes without helmets even in ice hockey (of course field hockey should be avoided too so is lacrosses) anyway

here's a link that talk about CI and sports;
http://deafness.about.com/od/basicsofcochlearimplants/a/cisports.htm

I've known CI users who have participated in basketball, football, swimming, etc. And a LOT who participate in ice hockey. I work at a week-long, all-deaf hockey camp in the summer, and a good number of our players have implants. One of our players last year had only had his surgery about a month before, and hadn't even been hooked up yet!

 

[sr171soars]

well a ci users can play football, basketball, swimming, bicycling, boxing etc even scuba diving (recreational only) the only thing I know that one ci user can't go there is deep sea diving because the atmosphere depth is lot stronger than scuba diving.

kickboxing, rugby and ice hockey should be avoided because of heavy contact then other sports above. those three usually goes without helmets even in ice hockey (of course field hockey should be avoided too so is lacrosses) anyway

here's a link that talk about CI and sports;
http://deafness.about.com/od/basicsofcochlearimplants/a/cisports.htm

I'm not debating this "per se". I would rather prefer to have myself (I do have a CI) or my son/daughter if they had a CI (they do not and can hear just fine) not play a sport where the chances are good that one's head could be impacted helmet or no. I look at simply from the standpoint of the odds. Now, I did let Cheri know that I wouldn't let my son play football or do boxing even there is no CI involved. It's just that the same principle applies with the odds of a head injury over time.

I'm not sure why you think ice hockey doesn't require a helmet. All levels of the sport including the NHL requires a helmet period...no exception period. There were a couple who were "grandfathered" in without the requirement. I don't know if any of the them are still playing. So, by your argument, ice hockey would be acceptable.

 

[Cheri]

well a ci users can play football, basketball, swimming, bicycling, boxing etc even scuba diving (recreational only)

Interesting, but basketball is where players run and accidents do happen what if a player who has a CI, fall down to the floor after a hard bump by another player? What about football, sometimes their helmet fall off by another player, It happened to my nephew. Those things you should be looking at the "what ifs"

 

[sr171soars]

Interesting, but basketball is where players run and accidents do happen what if a player who has a CI, fall down to the floor after a hard bump by another player? What about football, sometimes their helmet fall off by another player, It happened to my nephew. Those things you should be looking at the "what ifs"

One needs to balance this. Jeez, one can fall in one's house and hit their head! One could be walking the sidewalk and slip somehow and hit the head. There are too many things that can happen. One just can't stop living...

I have a CI and I only simply avoid the activities where my chances are very good that my head could get a nasty hit. I will continue living my life and do most everything else.

 

[Angel]

Actually children doesn't have to quit doing sports because they have a CI, they only need to take off the external part of the implant, children who use hearing aids, would take them off while playing sport, but some don't like me for example, I leave my hearing aids on while I playing softball or vollyball, I don't know about those who have CI , if some do leave them on or not...But from what I heard for younger children who wants to play on the playground and trampolines, the plastic in playground equipment can create electrostatic discharge that will interfere with the mapping of a speech processor and to avoid this risk, should simply remove the external parts of the implant....

 

[sr171soars]

...But from what I heard for younger children who wants to play on the playground and trampolines, the plastic in playground equipment can create electrostatic discharge that will interfere with the mapping of a speech processor and to avoid this risk, should simply remove the external parts of the implant....

Interesting you bring this up. There are lawsuits going on about this very thing. The parents are arguing why should these kids have to take off the external device to enjoy the slide? There are ways to make this problematical and very unlikely to happen. The problem, of course, is needing money to do so. As they say, what else is new?

 

[Cheri]

One needs to balance this. Jeez, one can fall in one's house and hit their head! One could be walking the sidewalk and slip somehow and hit the head. There are too many things that can happen. One just can't stop living...

I have a CI and I only simply avoid the activities where my chances are very good that my head could get a nasty hit. I will continue living my life and do most everything else.

I was speaking of children not adults. Thank you. If adults can make a choice on their own children of getting a CI, and without their consent and all children do fall even when they are learning to walk their first steps, And seeing how CI could effect their head injury from the fall, It's a scary thought. Excuse me if I care about the children here.

 

[Boult]

I've known CI users who have participated in basketball, football, swimming, etc. And a LOT who participate in ice hockey. I work at a week-long, all-deaf hockey camp in the summer, and a good number of our players have implants. One of our players last year had only had his surgery about a month before, and hadn't even been hooked up yet!

There you go as long they have very good protection then they can play. but they should not act like those in major league where they don't wear helmet and be tough you know

 

[Boult]

Interesting, but basketball is where players run and accidents do happen what if a player who has a CI, fall down to the floor after a hard bump by another player? What about football, sometimes their helmet fall off by another player, It happened to my nephew. Those things you should be looking at the "what ifs"

I have the video from Cochlear where one teenager plays in basketball for real he wears the processor while playing so he can hear the whistle and all that.. I even seen him fall down or hit the wall but his still works and didn't come off cuz it was secured real good and his headpiece was secured with headband so no sweat for him. that was the proof that he can play with ci processor on or off. the players didn't try to be careful with him. . they played normally like roughing... so no harms in that.


as for football, you don't want to wear the processor, it is uncomfortable. but still can play that sport.

 

[Boult]

I'm not debating this "per se". I would rather prefer to have myself (I do have a CI) or my son/daughter if they had a CI (they do not and can hear just fine) not play a sport where the chances are good that one's head could be impacted helmet or no. I look at simply from the standpoint of the odds. Now, I did let Cheri know that I wouldn't let my son play football or do boxing even there is no CI involved. It's just that the same principle applies with the odds of a head injury over time.

That's understandable...

I'm not sure why you think ice hockey doesn't require a helmet. All levels of the sport including the NHL requires a helmet period...no exception period. There were a couple who were "grandfathered" in without the requirement. I don't know if any of the them are still playing. So, by your argument, ice hockey would be acceptable.

well I don't follow the hockey sport closely but grandfathered in sound reasonable why I think they wear without one. but as for young folks like little league or high school, oh yeah they are required to wear them due to liability in school since major league does not tie to school. so that's different. so that's why i said they can play hockey but for major league forget it.

 

[sr171soars]

I was speaking of children not adults. Thank you. If adults can make a choice on their own children of getting a CI, and without their consent and all children do fall even when they are learning to walk their first steps, And seeing how CI could effect their head injury from the fall, It's a scary thought. Excuse me if I care about the children here.

I knew you were and I still say you are worrying far too much. There is nothing wrong for caring about kids...actually I commend you for that in a world where there are far too many people who would hurt 'em (too many digusting stories of perverts and the other such).

 

[Angel]

Interesting you bring this up. There are lawsuits going on about this very thing. The parents are arguing why should these kids have to take off the external device to enjoy the slide? There are ways to make this problematical and very unlikely to happen. The problem, of course, is needing money to do so. As they say, what else is new?

Yes, that what I heard from others too, and at my son's school there's a few parents already complaining about adding new playground for children who are handicapped and it cost more money, it like some parents always have something to complain about like it never enough for them, they want to see more and more things being changed just for their children, but it doesn't work that way, it takes alot of money to build one and money don't fall from trees...

Forgive me for the off-topic here.....

 

[Boult]

I knew you were and I still say you are worrying far too much. There is nothing wrong for caring about kids...actually I commend you for that in a world where there are far too many people who would hurt 'em (too many digusting stories of perverts and the other such).

agreed!

 

[Cheri]

I knew you were and I still say you are worrying far too much.

Is that so? I think it is very selfish for parents who decide their children's future by giving them C. Implants without even discussing this along with their children, They are too young to understand the meaning of CI, I don't see any fairness in deciding their operation when it is not a life and death situation. It seems like to me they are not opening about their child's deafness or ashamed that their child is deaf? I always believe it is the person's who is wearing the CI, should be one to decide entirely by them. It sounds like the parents just want their children to hear the world, but they're not wearing it, their children are. It's more like forcing a child under a knife because that's what parents wants, but what does the children want? Does their voice have the say in this matter or not?

 

[ayala920]

I'm not sure why you think ice hockey doesn't require a helmet. All levels of the sport including the NHL requires a helmet period...no exception period. There were a couple who were "grandfathered" in without the requirement. I don't know if any of the them are still playing. So, by your argument, ice hockey would be acceptable.

Very true. We follow standard hockey rules, and those rules have stated that players must wear helmets since the 80s. The only time we ever make exceptions to that rule is when we have all-star games with former NHL players who were around before the rules were enforced.

*end babbling, for now*

 

[sr171soars]

Is that so? I think it is very selfish for parents who decide their children's future by giving them C. Implants without even discussing this along with their children, They are too young to understand the meaning of CI, I don't see any fairness in deciding their operation when it is not a life and death situation. It seems like to me they are not opening about their child's deafness or ashamed that their child is deaf? I always believe it is the person's who is wearing the CI, should be one to decide entirely by them. It sounds like the parents just want their children to hear the world, but they're not wearing it, their children are. It's more like forcing a child under a knife because that's what parents wants, but what does the children want? Does their voice have the say in this matter or not?

I'm sorry but I'm not getting into this issue. I can see here and many other threads that this is still being "hotly" debated and going nowhere. I will agree to disagree on this and leave it at that.

 

[neecy]

I'm sorry but I'm not getting into this issue. I can see here and many other threads that this is still being "hotly" debated and going nowhere. I will agree to disagree on this and leave it at that.

Well said.