CI--Deaf or Hearing?

[jillio]

Wow. In the time I've been reading this forum (over a year at this point), not once have I ever seen anyone make that remark. I've seen people twist words into something they were never intended but that is different. I don't think anyone who takes the time to participate in this forum think the d/Deaf are uneducated.

It doesn't surprise me. You wouldn't recognize the attitude of audism that exists in hearing thinking if it smacked you up side the head. You can't even recognize it when it is pointed out to you.

 

[KristinaB]

Wirelessly posted



YOU dominate everything here, not the Deaf. Plus, i thought this site was supposed to be for all deaf people, not just Deaf.

I believe it is for all deaf/Deaf/DEAF/hoh/Late Deafened/PODA's/CODA's/KODA's/Terps and Terps-to-be. I'm not sure what parents of deaf children are since PODA is parent of deaf adult and PODC doesn't sound right.

Therefore, Jillio, like GrendelQ and others are allowed to be here as they are parents of deaf/Deaf children. Jillio's has grown up beautifully and the others I am assuming will also.

 

[jillio]

There is a good deal of diversity in the opinions expressed by the Deaf on this forum. As I'd hope there would be in any community. It doesn't always stand out that way though amidst the shear volume of posts by some of our posters who have been designated to speak for others.

Have been given permission to speak with others. Or don't you bother to read what they have to say about these childish "Bad jillio" posts?

If the Deaf have a problem with it, the Deaf know they can speak up and tell me. And isn't it a little hypocritical of you to complain about me speaking for others, when you are attempting to do the same in your objection to what I post and who approves of it? The Deaf can decide for themselves. But they are not the ones complaining. The ones complaining are 3 hearing parents, who by the way, have been corrected many times by the Deaf on this forum.

 

[CSign]

You're joking, right? I've only started hanging out here since Easter and I've seen countless posts on how uneducated and delayed deaf people are.

I'm as serious as a heart attack.

I've seen posts about the challenges that face individuals who are DHH, and specific areas which need to be addressed. That is very different from labeling people who are deaf as uneducated. Sure, you might have one or two who say things just to get a rise out of people. But that is really all they are looking for. I doubt that they truly believe in their heart of hearts that Individuals who are DHH are uneducated.

If a multitude of those posts exist, then I ask for you to provide me some links and I will stand corrected.

Like I said though, that type of post is less about what they write as it is about the reaction they are looking for from others.

 

[DeafCaroline]

There is a good deal of diversity in the opinions expressed by the Deaf on this forum. As I'd hope there would be in any community. It doesn't always stand out that way though amidst the shear volume of posts by some of our posters who have been designated to speak for others.

Welcome to our world Grendel. Now you know how we feel being drowned by out the hearing world and the sheer volume of their opinions as they've designated themselves to speak for us.

jillio is just but one person. The deaf has the entire hearing world to deal with.

 

[faire_jour]

Wirelessly posted

ah! now I understand your situation much better now. that pretty much answered my question in my previous post.

I can see why your position has generated a great deal of controversy but hey... if it works out fine for your son, cool. However, I do definitely see others' POV on this issue and it's the route I would choose for my deaf child - the BiBi program.

It is the route that anyone who is informed regarding the consequences of language delay and deprivation, the problems with never being able to use the only language a deaf child has to fluency, and the psycho-social impact of deafness would choose. Especially if they put the child's needs as the first priority.

no it isn't. There are plenty of well informed hard core AV families. They just disagree with HOW to provide the language. The language goals are the same.

 

[Frisky Feline]

Welcome to our world Grendel. Now you know how we feel being drowned by out the hearing world and the sheer volume of their opinions as they've designated themselves to speak for us.

jillio is just but one person. The deaf has the entire hearing world to deal with.

well said. thats true.

 

[jillio]

I'm as serious as a heart attack.

I've seen posts about the challenges that face individuals who are DHH, and specific areas which need to be addressed. That is very different from labeling people who are deaf as uneducated. Sure, you might have one or two who say things just to get a rise out of people. But that is really all they are looking for. I doubt that they truly believe in their heart of hearts that Individuals who are DHH are uneducated.

If a multitude of those posts exist, then I ask for you to provide me some links and I will stand corrected.

Like I said though, that type of post is less about what they write as it is about the reaction they are looking for from others.

Like I said, you wouldn't recognize it if it jumped up and smacked you up side the head. You won't even acknowledge it when it is pointed out to you. Can you say, "denial".?

 

[GrendelQ]

Welcome to our world Grendel. Now you know how we feel being drowned by out the hearing world and the sheer volume of their opinions as they've designated themselves to speak for us.

jillio is just but one person and she really gets your goat, huh? The deaf has the entire hearing world to deal with. Imagine how much that gets our goat.

I'm not talking about turning the tables on hearing people. There are a whole lot of d/Deaf who are being drowned out here by a small number of posters insisting upon conformity to one position, when there are several that can be employed towards common values.

 

[deafskeptic]

Just before going to Gallaudet University, my dad surprised me by expressing his fear that I would not be accessible to him (or our family) because I would become "like the deaf". It was a bit of a surreal moment as I always identified myself as HOH and not hearing like everyone else and he always identified me as hearing. I've always lived in the two worlds, I was just on a journey to join a third world.

I had a similar reaction from my Dad when I went to VSDB. He said that he didn't want me to lose my speech skills and just become like one of those kids who just sign.

 

[jillio]

Welcome to our world Grendel. Now you know how we feel being drowned by out the hearing world and the sheer volume of their opinions as they've designated themselves to speak for us.

jillio is just but one person. The deaf has the entire hearing world to deal with.

They absolutely hate it when that cultural reversal knocks them on their butts.

 

[CSign]

Like I said, you wouldn't recognize it if it jumped up and smacked you up side the head. You won't even acknowledge it when it is pointed out to you. Can you say, "denial".?

I can. That's a river in Egypt, right?

 

[Beach girl]

flies outside would be bothersome, true.


I have been without a pasty for 17 years

but someone check my math.

Were you originally from Michigan's UP?? I love me some pasties every time we go up there. Let's hear it for the rutabagas.

 

[GrendelQ]

I can. That's a river in Egypt, right?

dork

 

[jillio]

I can. That's a river in Egypt, right?

That is apparently what you believe.

 

[GrendelQ]

They absolutely hate it when that cultural reversal knocks them on their butts.

How is Deaf or Hearing suppression of other Deaf a cultural reversal?

 

[deafskeptic]

How is Deaf or Hearing suppression of other Deaf a cultural reversal?

Who's doing the supressing?

 

[jillio]

Wirelessly posted



no it isn't. There are plenty of well informed hard core AV families. They just disagree with HOW to provide the language. The language goals are the same.

" Hard coreAV" and "well informed" are diametrically opposed. You will not find the same thing in one person.

 

[Beowulf]

Sigh. Why do I have the feeling that within a few short years, posters will be acknowledging past mistakes? For some reason I cannot imagine it to be the ASL crowd.

 

[Frisky Feline]

Who's doing the supressing?

Glad i am not alone thinking what did she mean by that.