Can't we all get along?

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Steinhauer said:
There is a difference between actually being crazy, and making others believe you are crazy. Nadal Hassan's colleagues knew he was crazy. Loughner's instructor's knew he was crazy.
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I don't get it. Being crazy and making people believe you are crazy? example?

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Jiro said:
The Americans should know that it's not very easy to say "I'm sorry" in Asian culture especially from higher up. That's why there's a seppuki. :lol:
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heh. Exactly. :P

That's why I respect that dude even though I can't remember his name. Imagine being in that suit taking questions from US lawmakers. Hot Seat of the Year.
 
I fired someone for repeated aggressive behaviour. A week later he was arrested for assault.

Go figure .... sometimes people do not act on common sense.
 
Jiro said:
I don't get it. Being crazy and making people believe you are crazy? example?

:confused:
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How many punk rockers do you know?


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craigm26 said:
heh. Exactly. :P

That's why I respect that dude even though I can't remember his name. Imagine being in that suit taking questions from US lawmakers. Hot Seat of the Year.
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Akio Toyoda. Had to look it up. I can never remember any of Asian name. Too hard to spell and pronounce.
 
Steinhauer said:
I fired someone for repeated aggressive behaviour. A week later he was arrested for assault.

Go figure .... sometimes people do not act on common sense.
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That has nothing to do with "crazy" or mental illness.

Is he mentally-ill?
 
Jiro said:
That has nothing to do with "crazy" or mental illness.

Is he mentally-ill?
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Yes, that person is mentally ill. Anyone who has ever had contact with that person has mentioned something or other. I couldn't do anything until he/she made a threat.

The threat was "if that m.....f.....r doesn't STFU, I am gonna hit him!"


Everyone thought he was the type of person who would go postal if fired.

A real "pleasant" type of individual.
 
Steinhauer said:
Yes, that person is mentally ill. Anyone who has ever had contact with that person has mentioned something or other. I couldn't do anything until he/she made a threat.
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do you believe that the law should be changed to allow the government to take him to mental institution based on people's complaint about him?
 
Jiro said:
do you believe that the law should be changed to allow the government to take him to mental institution based on people's complaint about him?
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I believe there should be some neutral intervention, not detainment. Again, only if it is plain as day. If 10-15 people all notice the same odd behaviour, then someone needs to intervene.

None of this, "I disagree with his politics so I am gonna make him look like he is crazy" BS.
 
tousi said:
while that's a given, sallylou, about reba but in this instance i cannot for the life of me believe that there are those of us here, according to saywhatkid, who would relish in the murder of politicos who have opposing political views.
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+1
 
Steinhauer said:
I believe there should be some neutral intervention, not detainment. Again, only if it is plain as day.

None of this, "I disagree with his politics so I am gonna make him look like he is crazy" BS.
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neutral intervention? what's that? let's take Loughner as an example.

In the beginning, he was in the class, acting crazy, talking crazy. and then what?
 
Jiro said:
neutral intervention? what's that? let's take Loughner as an example.

In the beginning, he was in the class, acting crazy, talking crazy. and then what?
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Depends on the environment...like at work?
 
Steinhauer said:
anywhere.

Suppose your in class with someone who is obviously a heroin/meth user. The first reaction most people have is to stay the hell away from the individual.

That is what happens .... sadly. Then someone gets hurt and people say "Why didn't anyone do anything?"


I can cite examples .....
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no need to cite examples but you can answer my question, if you please because I don't know what's "neutral intervention"

I ask again. In the beginning, Loughner was in the class, acting crazy, talking crazy. and then what? (no he's not heroin/meth user).
 
allright...I think Loughner's case should've went somewhere outside the school once it hit a certain threshold/pattern. I mean if a Psych can recognize his behavioral temperament deteriorating they should give the case to a higher-ranking pysch.

Most healthcare systems have different levels of care, so a minor case might get a clinical social worker, medium case gets a psychologist and then a high risk case might go a psychiatrist.

I'm hoping more pysch careerists recognize more serious cases quicker and maybe hoping that society isn't as cautious about reporting cases and keeping it confidential. At least where we work, it's easily taken care of.
 
Jiro said:
no need to cite examples but you can answer my question, if you please because I don't know what's "neutral intervention"

I ask again. In the beginning, Loughner was in the class, acting crazy, talking crazy. and then what? (no he's not heroin/meth user).
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Your asking about Loughner. Ok, neutral intervention would have been an instructor asking to talk to him outside of class. A recommendation to visit MHC on campus. Put him in contact with a counselor.

Stuff like that. Why wasn't it done?
 
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