Breaking News! CNN announces Osama Bin Laden is Dead !

[jillio]

Then again, perhaps OBL narrowly escaped a few of those bunker blasters and decided to get a house. Bush did say often during his book tour he felt OBL was in Pakistan. To me I couldn't care less who was President when our fighting men got the job done. Giving the green light in this situation isn't exactly a hard call to make.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Here is something that doesn't depend on a maybe:

Bush couldn't do it; Obama did.

 

[Reba]

We can give Bush some credit. We can credit him with making Osama a target. A target he couldn't hit, but...

I guess the intelligence that was gathered from the GITMO detainees during the Bush administration, and that they give credit for providing the information about the courier is nothing to you. Well, I'm glad the CIA put it to good use anyway.

 

[jillio]

moving from place to place. that probably got him very ill.

But not ill enough to die from natural causes. Obama's Navy Seals killed him.

 

[Reba]

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Here is something that doesn't depend on a maybe:

Bush couldn't do it; Obama did.

That's funny. I thought the CIA and the SEALs had something to do with it.

 

[jillio]

I guess the intelligence that was gathered from the GITMO detainees during the Bush administration, and that they give credit for providing the information about the courier is nothing to you. Well, I'm glad the CIA put it to good use anyway.

The report from Rumsfeld is that the info COULD have come from Gitmo, not that it did. Just more maybes.

Who ordered the killing Osama? The President did.:P

 

[TXgolfer]

Yeppers. Obama is head of that group. So, all of your previous objections to Obama had nothing to do with his party affiliation?

Nope. I just think it is laughable to praise a man for making the easiest decision in the history of the Presidency. Who would have said no? Actually Carter might have.....

 

[Reba]

But not ill enough to die from natural causes. Obama's Navy Seals killed him.

Since when are they "Obama's Navy Seals?" They are United States Navy SEALs.

 

[jillio]

That's funny. I thought the CIA and the SEALs had something to do with it.

On Obama's orders. Bush couldn't get it done, Obama did. No matter how you try to spin it.

 

[jillio]

Since when are they "Obama's Navy Seals?" They are United States Navy SEALs.

Who is the President, and as such, head of the military?

What about all those complaints that Obama didn't have military experience and therefore, could not run the military as President? Guess Bush's military experience didn't do much for him when it came to finding the most wanted terrorist in the world, now did it?

 

[jillio]

Nope. I just think it is laughable to praise a man for making the easiest decision in the history of the Presidency. Who would have said no? Actually Carter might have.....

Easiest decision? Dang...sore loosing isn't a pretty sight!

 

[Jiro]

Then again, perhaps OBL narrowly escaped a few of those bunker blasters and decided to get a house. Bush did say often during his book tour he felt OBL was in Pakistan. To me I couldn't care less who was President when our fighting men got the job done. Giving the green light in this situation isn't exactly a hard call to make.

I doubt it was ever an easy decision to green light it. No Presidential decision is ever easy to make because people will die as the result of it. International crisis will occur. Repercussion may happen. Retaliation may happen.

I definitely do not want to see Pakistan's wrath :Ohno:

 

[Jiro]

That's funny. I thought the CIA and the SEALs had something to do with it.

during Bush Administration, they couldn't do it because of legal hiccups.... that it was "illegal" to assassinate Osama bin Laden when they had him in sight. I think it was CIA lawyer who put a stop on it.

 

[jillio]

I doubt it was ever an easy decision to green light it. No Presidential decision is ever easy to make because people will die as the result of it. International crisis will occur. Repercussion may happen. Retaliation may happen.

We all know that. And if there is any form of retalliation, even just talk, all the "what ifs" and the "maybes" will intensify. It s the way some play the game. Can't handle the facts.

And Obama provided for possible retalliation by instituting a high alert last night.

 

[Frisky Feline]

this gif is big bigggg mistake. DUH at those media tv

 

[Beach girl]

A lengthy article that describes some of the background:

Osama bin Laden killed in U.S. raid, buried at sea - The Washington Post

Interesting that the point is made early on that Obama made the decision based on "circumstantial evidence." I vaguely recall a poster here making fun of the idea of circumstantial evidence - guess it's useful in some, uh, circumstances...

Following is from the Wash. Post article:

Obama made one of the “gutsiest calls” of any president in deciding to go ahead with the raid based on his confidence — but only circumstantial evidence — that bin Laden was indeed living in the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, Brennan said. He said there were “absolutely” disagreements among Obama’s advisers about that course of action.Obama made one of the “gutsiest calls” of any president in deciding to go ahead with the raid based on his confidence — but only circumstantial evidence — that bin Laden was indeed living in the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, Brennan said. He said there were “absolutely” disagreements among Obama’s advisers about that course of action.

Also interesting (and entirely right, IMHO) that the orders were "shoot to kill." Obama did not want Osama to come to trial. Too messy, too political.

Also from the article (towards the end):

That bin Laden was killed — rather than captured — was a victory itself for U.S. officials, who had dreaded the prospect of a long and complicated legal battle if he was taken into U.S. custody.
With the military brig at Guantanamo Bay no longer being used to house new detainees, and with the country paralyzed by the politics of where and how to try other alleged perpetrators of the Sept. 11 attacks, the logistics of trying bin Laden could have turned the capture into a spectacle. Now, although he might become a martyr to his supporters, it will be as an invisible hero.

Well done, all around.

 

[jillio]

I'm wondering how Limbaugh will try to spin it. He's been awfully quiet so far!

 

[TXgolfer]

I doubt it was ever an easy decision to green light it. No Presidential decision is ever easy to make because people will die as the result of it. International crisis will occur. Repercussion may happen. Retaliation may happen.

I definitely do not want to see Pakistan's wrath :Ohno:

Those decisions were made when they decided to continue the hunt....

 

[Reba]

The report from Rumsfeld is that the info COULD have come from Gitmo, not that it did. Just more maybes.

I wasn't talking about Rumsfeld.

The original information about the courier was obtained from the detainees four years ago.

The CIA members who have been working on this intelligence continue from the Bush administration into the Obama administration. They, and the military, continue to do their jobs regardless of who is President.

I'm not downplaying anything Obama did in this operation; I'm only pointing out that military intelligence for this operation has been in the works for years before he was elected.

Who ordered the killing Osama? The President did.:P

That's better than what Clinton did when he had the chance to get OBL.

Did Obama order them to kill him or, did he order them to take him dead or alive? There is a difference.

 

[jillio]

A lengthy article that describes some of the background:

Osama bin Laden killed in U.S. raid, buried at sea - The Washington Post

Interesting that the point is made early on that Obama made the decision based on "circumstantial evidence." I vaguely recall a poster here making fun of the idea of circumstantial evidence - guess it's useful in some, uh, circumstances...

Following is from the Wash. Post article:



Also interesting (and entirely right, IMHO) that the orders were "shoot to kill." Obama did not want Osama to come to trial. Too messy, too political.

Also from the article (towards the end):



Well done, all around.

Apples to oranges...circumstantial evidence in regard to the legal finding of guilt. Has virtually nothing to do with this situation. Obama followed through on the intelligence he had indicating the location of Osama, gave the order to attack, and he was killed. Period.

 

[jillio]

I wasn't talking about Rumsfeld.

The original information about the courier was obtained from the detainees four years ago.

The CIA members who have been working on this intelligence continue from the Bush administration into the Obama administration. They, and the military, continue to do their jobs regardless of who is President.

I'm not downplaying anything Obama did in this operation; I'm only pointing out that military intelligence for this operation has been in the works for years before he was elected.


That's better than what Clinton did when he had the chance to get OBL.

Did Obama order them to kill him or, did he order them to take him dead or alive? There is a difference.

Oh, so now you give the detainees credibility? Boy is that a reverse of position.

He gave the order to take him dead or alive. They attempt a capture, Osama resisted, and he was killed. Still accomplished what Bush didn't.