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Macian said:
you mean like the kid i already sponsor jiro?
I'm sorry but you come over quite juvenile in your arguements/debates, perhaps im reading it wrong but i see no room for discussion, only point grabbing, if thats the case have all points, yer welcome to them.
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one kid..... how about thousand kids? I'm sure you want to cover as many kids as you can. Again - capitalism is the way to go. You already put yourself in a juvenile position with your stereotypical view of capitalism.
 
Hear Again said:
At the rate we're going, there will *never* be a victory in Iraq. After all, how could there be when there are constant suicide bombings, beheadings, car bombings, etc.?

America was a much safer country before the Iraqi War.
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thats a typical american response mate, all US US US, other countries have a global policy to help others, Iraq now needs(no matter the reason we went in) out help to stabilse their country, we now have to see it out, get some sort of organistaion then leg it before it all kicks off again lol
seriously though we have let them down in the past through greed for oil, we need to earn respect and show them we care(dont go quoting bombers, every conutry had nutters and only simple people tar them all with the same brush)
it's not going to be easy, no one said it would be, but to leave now, will give the terrorists a massive boost they can beat the US(and allies) and drive them out the country, which is a dangerous message to send out to the terrorists in this world,and rendering the lost lives of our troops a waste, we need to make it work
 
Jiro said:
one kid..... how about thousand kids? I'm sure you want to cover as many kids as you can. Again - capitalism is the way to go. You already put yourself in a juvenile position with your stereotypical view of capitalism.
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if the world was sharing the wealth then i'd no need to, ok ye mock me, how many hundreds do you sponsor?
 
Macian said:
thats a typical american response mate, all US US US, other countires have a global policy to help others, Iraq now needs(no matter the reason we went in) out help to stabilse their country, w enow ahve to see it out, gte soem sort of organistaion then leg it before it all kicks off again lol
seriously though we have let them down in the past through greed for oil, we need to earn respect and show them we care(dont go quoting bombers, every conutry had nutters and only simple peopll tar them all with the same brush)
it's not going to be easy, no one said it would be, but to elave now, will give the terrorists a massive boost they can beat the US(and allies) and drive them out the country, which is a dangerous message to send out to the terrorists in this world,
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ok then we'll leave and let your country handle it since you sounds like Scotland's got all the answers. Let's hope your country's budget is enough to fix it.
 
Macian said:
if the world was sharing the wealth then i'd no need to, ok ye mock me, how many hundreds do you sponsor?
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sorry no. doesn't work that way. the fundamental difference is - a freedom of choice. something that you're probably not familiar with.

and why don't you ask Bill Gates that question?
 
so the american way is charity jiro>? they wnat to give and be seen to, rather than just share it all as we go through life, ona fair basis, so soem kids are not working in china for a dollar a week making a yank 2000 a week, so he can then say here have 100 a week abck and feel good coz hes giving, i really dont see your point, not understand it as you are obvuiosly not in that position, nor am i
 
Macian said:
so the american way is charity jiro>? they wnat to give and be seen to, rather than just share it all as we go through life, ona fair basis, so soem kids are not working in china for a dollar a week making a yank 2000 a week, so he can then say here have 100 a week abck and feel good coz hes giving, i really dont see your point, not understand it as you are obvuiosly not in that position, nor am i
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that's precisely our choice to give. I'm sorry but you're not really giving. You're FORCED to give under socialism. You've been conditioned that way. and quite frankly - I don't see your point either. Pissing contest ends here. Nothing is won here.
 
Jiro said:
sorry no. doesn't work that way. the fundamental difference is - a freedom of choice. something that you're probably not familiar with.

and why don't you ask Bill Gates that question?
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I would but its you thats argueing his corner so i thought you had his ear, and for me bill gates should be stripped of his wealth through theft, but thats another story, but you evade as per usal and never give a valid political or rational point, so I'm going to leave it as we are getting nowhere.
 
Jiro said:
that's precisely our choice to give. I'm sorry but you're not really giving. You're FORCED to give under socialism. You've been conditioned that way. and quite frankly - I don't see your point either. Pissing contest ends here. Nothing is won here.
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your understanding of socialism is opionatiatd and very naive,but another discussion for another day, catch ye later mate, bye for now
 
Macian said:
your understanding of socialism is opionatiatd and very naive,but another discussion for another day, catch ye later mate, bye for now
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NOW you understand my position. Your understanding of capitalism is opininated and very naive. See ya later, skirt-wearer! make sure you got your boxer on! :laugh2:

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Jiro said:
NOW you understand my position. Your understanding of capitalism is opininated and very naive. See ya later, skirt-wearer! make sure you got your boxer on! :laugh2:
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Kilts are not skirts. :roll:
 
Again Jiro, Adam Smith - the father of modern economcs/capitalism - would disagree with you. Adam Smith clearly wrote that the richer a person gets, the more taxes he should pay. He does NOT believe in "flat tax" at all.
 
netrox said:
Again Jiro, Adam Smith - the father of modern economcs/capitalism - would disagree with you. Adam Smith clearly wrote that the richer a person gets, the more taxes he should pay. He does NOT believe in "flat tax" at all.
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uh... no shit? after all.... he was a Scottish... naturally he would disagree with the ideal of American capitalism.... not me. We don't have flat tax either.

point is - you're missing the fundamental point of American way - the free choice.
 
Jiro said:
uh... no shit? after all.... he was a Scottish... naturally he would disagree with the ideal of American capitalism.... not me. We don't have flat tax either.

point is - you're missing the fundamental point of American way - the free choice.
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I think Bill Franklin made it clear... two things we cannot avoid - taxes and death. :)
 
Jiro said:
uh... no shit? after all.... he was a Scottish... naturally he would disagree with the ideal of American capitalism.... not me. We don't have flat tax either.

point is - you're missing the fundamental point of American way - the free choice.
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one more thing, virtually all economists consider Adam Smith to be the one that influenced American capitalism.
 
You can also find the same information about Obama's birth certificate on Factcheck.org:

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Just do a search for "Obama birth certificate" and click the links that read "Born in the USA" and "Has Obama's Birth Certificate Been Disclosed?"
 
Capitalism vs. Socialism.... hmmmmm let's see.....

Sure in theory socialism is sounds nice, but I have to side with capitalism. Capitalist societies seem to have very powerful economies. America has only been a country for 230+ years and has become a superpower in short time. One huge reason is because of the great freedom and capitalism has definitely helped. The GDP of the U.S. far exceeds that of any other individual country.

People like to say that capitalism doesn't work well because of greed. I'll agree that is one of the negative points of capitalism but it's also one of the positive ones as well. In capitalistic societies, companies compete in a free market. They are of course greedy, but because of greed they fight to gain more customers. Competition almost always benefits the consumer because they are reaping the benefits of having amazing products or services.

2 reasons why I prefer capitalism -
1. I don't like the idea of a government controlling what's supposed to be private.

2. Free Market & Competition produce better products than government work. Look at government workers... they don't give a shit about making it better for you but private corporations will work as hard as they can to keep you as their customer.

As far as Europe is concerned, I have no argument. I agree that Europe did a lot of good things to help their citizens over the years. But now that entitlement spending is ballooning and their society is aging, you'll see changes to the way they are structured.

While i don't agree with unrestricted capitalism, I do feel capitalism - such as the type we have here in America - is a MUCH better way to spread out a limited number of goods and resources over an entire society.

btw - we're :topic:
 
Endy, Banjo and Macian,

:ty: for make fact posts about Hitler and socialism.

Oh yes, I love that Braveheart´s song... I am Scottish and my family generation on my mother´s side is also Scottish as well... :D


I find very immaturity that some posters are ignorant and make me look that I am racist over Jewish issues. It seem to me that they refuse to accept that it´s not my word but Germany history.

I also find very immaturity of some posters to compare Obama with Hitler.





 
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