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[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Jiro
yes I'm aware of that but in this country - he will not be remembered as "he was a good leader before holocaust happened...." Our ancestors died to free Europe from Hitler. No way they will ever respect or acknowledge or remember Hitler as "he was a good leader before....."

Of course, he is no longer remembered as a good leader. He was a monster. There's no doubt in that. Like the concept, then and now. Then, you can see that people thought quite highly of Hitler before the genocide began and now, people think quite lowly of him because of his crimes to humanity.

Hitler is in hell for eternity.

Of course you were right that many people including Germans don´t want to remember Hitler as a good leader but the history said itself that he was a good leader... the history about him spread out to the world... My boys learn positive and negative about Hitler at school... also everywhere school in the world as well... I personally feel sick about Hitler but I can´t lie about Hitler history... oh well

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Maria
Yeah, but I opposed about ONE thing what she did said about Jewish.

me too. that was..... a worst stereotypical thing to say...

It´s history itself, not my word. I only share the fact what I learn from history itself... :roll:

 

[Jiro]

It´s history itself, not my word. I only share the fact what I learn from history itself... :roll:

OK OK OK OK WE GET THE POINT. You said it like 3x already. No need to repeat same reply to every post.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

so basically whats mine is mine, if i employ ten other people pay them little, keep the rest of the money for my pool, holiday villa, whilst other people cant even afford food to survive then thats ok?
I understand where yer coming from reba but im sorry i dont agree with it.
as for the record i am an employer, with my own business, before anyone points it out lol
but i am and always will be a socialist, i believe in sharing and not in greed, it's just so many small minds are still living in the dark ages and see socialism as commonism, and not sahring

 

[Maria]

I find very immaturity that some posters are ignorant and make me look that I am racist over Jewish issues.

Yes, you are. My bf is a Jewish. You have no rights to call Jewish people " fiddle " with money in despite of history tellin' you.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

OK OK OK OK WE GET THE POINT. You said it like 3x already. No need to repeat same reply to every post.

I have to repeat it because it´s hard for some posters to convince... Now you finally convince...

for convince at last.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, you are. My bf is a Jewish. You have no rights to call Jewish people " fiddle " with money in despite of history tellin' you.

Did you know what you are saying is very offensive and insult for accuse me as a racist that´s because I gave Hear Again right and shared Hitler´s history why he do that to Jewish and kind of race people?

It has nothing do with your boyfriend because he was not born at Hitler time.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

ugh. sometimes it's just difficult to get it inside your head. Oh well. You need to learn how to read sentence COMPLETELY. I think you quickly scan the sentences for selective words. yes I know you disagree with US System. That is EXACTLY what I said!! Reread my post WORD BY WORD in a COMPLETE sentence.

"What I mean about "anti-American" ? I don't mean you hate American. You are simply against the very way of American."

do you understand better now?

Yes I know what you are saying but I do not complaint that you keep on talk negative against socialism, etc. Have you seen me to accuse you as anti-socialist? or anti-Europeans? Nope, I accept and respect your POV over socialize issues and ignore your negative posts over socialism but feed positive things over socialize issues to you instead of accuse you of something negative. It call itself as anti-foreigner when you keep on accuse me of anti-american that´s because you don´t like me for disagree with US system?

 

[Byrdie714]

Did you know what you are saying is very offensive and insult for accuse me as a racist that´s because I gave Hear Again right and shared Hitler´s history why he do that to Jewish and kind of race people?

It has nothing do with your boyfriend because he was not born at Hitler time.

Doesn't matter as he is a desecendent of those that perished.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I'm afraid not.

If "nobody saw it coming" with Hitler, what makes you think people will "see it coming" with Obama? I tried to point it out here, and still "no one sees it coming." Some people are in such denial that they won't see the freight train "coming" until it hits them.

Hitler didn't change overnight. All the signs and warnings were there. People just ignored them until it was too late.


I wish you were right. However, we've seen that impeachment of a President is not easy.


You might want to do deeper research on Hitler.

He was a skilled orator, loved children and animals, was a tea-totaler and vegetarian. Sounds peaceful and good, huh?

It proves how deceptive some people can be.



Pre-WWII Germany faced deep economic and employment problems. The Germans were seeking a leader who could give them hope and change. Hitler's speeches brought out huge adoring crowds.

Still doesn't ring a bell?

:roll: look what and how Bill Clinton did for his people and country pretty good, also created million jobs for his people and also economcy as well. Is he Hitler?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Doesn't matter as he is a desecendent of those that perished.

Doesn´t matter either the people at present time have the same race as the people during Hitler time but it´s History, I am referring to, period. Should I tell the kind of race people lie about Hitler´s history? Nope... They deserve the truth when they want to know why Hitler do that. I have Jewish and kind of race friends here in Germany who have no problem to accept Hitler history and share their disagreement what and how Hitler did to kind of race people.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

oh no wonder. they wouldn't understand. once they taste American capitalism & freedom... there's no going back

That's why we have so many illegal immigrants

We have illegal immigrants here in Europe countries including Germany as well. Illegal immigrants from poor countries are everywhere in many countries around the world, not just America.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

uh... because we're not a bloodthirsty killer like you. We do not need to take out whole Republican Guards. They have families, you know. USA let them live because they can be used for reconstruction purpose. And beside... the 2nd army? uh... are you kidding me? it was not even at full strength. They were flat-ass broke and hungry. It was all smoke and cover. It was an easy surrender this time.

oh btw - I'm Korean. My birth country is forever in USA's debt for their involvement in Korean War and is a strong & close partner of USA.

:scratch: I thought you support the hunter for the foods and overpopulation protection accord our debate at Palin and wolves in 2 different threads?

Because of those exact word, the Vegans and Vegearians would use to against the hunters.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I do too. But sharing is voluntary, not forced. If it's forced it's not truly sharing. Truth be told, I donate more of my money than I pay in taxes, so it's not a matter of being tight or greedy.

What is more desirable? Increasing (voluntarily) the wages of your employees so they can have improved life, or giving additional money (involuntarily) via taxes (minus bureaucratic service charges) to people who haven't earned it? Which would you rather receive--a raise in pay for work performed, or a handout from the government that reminds you that you're an inadequate provider?

High taxes and social insurance doesn´t affect European taxpayers but we (many Europeans) still donate voluntarily to kind of charities and oversea, like Hurriances, earthquarke, etc.

:shrug:

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Originally Posted by Reba
I'm afraid not.

If "nobody saw it coming" with Hitler, what makes you think people will "see it coming" with Obama? I tried to point it out here, and still "no one sees it coming." Some people are in such denial that they won't see the freight train "coming" until it hits them.

You cannot seriously believe that?

Yes I am wondering the same...

I assumed that Reba would say the same about Clinton as Hitler because Obama agree many of Clinton Adminrastion.

 

[Reba]

Hawaii officials just released birth certicicate and verified that OBAMA WAS BORN IN USA!

State Verifies Obama's Birth Certificate - Politics News Story - KITV Honolulu

I'm curious why he needed to prove his birth with a certificate. If he was born in Hawaii where his mom's family lived, weren't there plenty of witnesses to his birth? I mean, don't family members remember the day his mom went to the hospital, the day he was born, going to the hospital to see the new baby, bringing him home, etc.? What about hospital records, and the attending physician's records? Newborn baby pictures? Why is the birth certificate the only proof of his birth?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Jiro and Macian, I read your interesting argument over Capitalism vs. Socialism. I respect your POV over capitalism, Jiro but I am with Macian over Socialism issues.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I'm curious why he needed to prove his birth with a certificate. If he was born in Hawaii where his mom's family lived, weren't there plenty of witnesses to his birth? I mean, don't family members remember the day his mom went to the hospital, the day he was born, going to the hospital to see the new baby, bringing him home, etc.? What about hospital records, and the attending physician's records? Newborn baby pictures? Why is the birth certificate the only proof of his birth?

Have you read FactCheck.org, Hear Again provided in his previous post?

 

[jillio]

I'm curious why he needed to prove his birth with a certificate. If he was born in Hawaii where his mom's family lived, weren't there plenty of witnesses to his birth? I mean, don't family members remember the day his mom went to the hospital, the day he was born, going to the hospital to see the new baby, bringing him home, etc.? What about hospital records, and the attending physician's records? Newborn baby pictures? Why is the birth certificate the only proof of his birth?

Its not the only proof. The fact that the man is walking around is proof that he was born. However, it is the official proof of place of birth, and obviously McCain supporters find it necessary.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

In this country, we have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of rights, freedom of etc. Your country did not.

Opposite to me, To me that Germany country and also European countries have much freedom than America.