Baby No. 17 For Duggars Coming Soon

[Liebling:-)))]

I think someone who always on and on are consider as Bully. Of course some has their different opinion/views, its is unnecessary to go rambling on and on, we don't need people to force and to listen and believe what the high volume member poster are trying to tell us.

Good luck.

I do not see that anyone are aggressive toward ADers here but use common sense and open mind debate with no insult/bash.

This AD rules explains better.
http://www.alldeaf.com/announcements/95-forum-rules.html

9.) No bashing, flaming or harassing other members. Period.

10.) No enticing or provoking other members to cause them to get into trouble.

Even though we support freedom of speech, show some respect, use common sense, and keep an open mind when participating in discussions.

Accord those AD Rules, I do not see anyone broke the AllDeaf forum rules here but debate in respectfully agree to disagree without insult/bash. If you don't like what you see then don't post here.

Use your common sense and open mind when you agree to disagree something instead of judge someone's posts in offensive way...

 

[Cheri]

I think someone who always on and on are consider as Bully. Of course some has their different opinion/views, its is unnecessary to go rambling on and on, we don't need people to force and to listen and believe what the high volume member poster are trying to tell us.

Good luck.

!! I agreed. That's why I jumped out of that one thread, no matter what I say it's not even good enough for some posters. :roll:

 

[horselover61]

Wow they sure beat my best friend's parent who have 16 kids no twin. Wish them the best of luck.

 

[Reba]

Well, I think that having too many kids is like having too many cats.

Human children can't be compared to cats.

Why would anyone want to have so many kids?

You have to ask the parents about that. Each family is different.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

!! I agreed. That's why I jumped out of that one thread, no matter what I say it's not even good enough for some posters. :roll:

Use your common sense please...

Have you read AllDeaf Rules? I am sure that you remember moderator's post at Religion thread "Original Sin" with those link of AllDeaf Rules. Use our common sense when we debate with respectfully agree to disagree. Nobody forces you if you quit or don't want to post in some threads but your own choice as the same as I have my own choice as well.

 

[Reba]

Do you mean Christianity news, not the news from real world?

Christian news sources are about the "real" world.

Can you please provide me with a link that states that the Duggar family doesn't read, watch, or listen to "real world" news? I tried to find the source of that statement, and I can't find it on the internet, or in a search of previous AD threads. I can't give you a complete answer if I don't have the facts.

... other simple question: Why are you here?

What do you mean? "Here" at this thread? "Here" at AD? "Here" on the planet Earth? I can't answer because I don't understand your question.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Christian news sources are about the "real" world.

Oh I see...

Can you please provide me with a link that states that the Duggar family doesn't read, watch, or listen to "real world" news? I tried to find the source of that statement, and I can't find it on the internet, or in a search of previous AD threads. I can't give you a complete answer if I don't have the facts.

Check the websites where ADers provided in debate thread of last year (check those thread where I provided the link to quote Opal's post few days ago. It's not hard to find the links there).

What do you mean? "Here" at this thread? "Here" at AD? "Here" on the planet Earth? I can't answer because I don't understand your question.

Please use common sense.

 

[Reba]

Check the websites where ADers provided in debate thread of last year (check those thread where I provided the link to quote Opal's post few days ago. It's not hard to find the links there).

I did. I didn't find any original sources for the statement that the Duggar family doesn't keep up with "real world" news.

So, until I see an original statement, I say that Duggar family does keep up with world news.

Please use common sense.

Why can't you just give me a straight answer? I'm trying to be fair. I can't properly answer your question if I don't understand the question.

 

[Awauphi]

did u know that long time ago the family tend to be LARGE so the kids would help out with chores around the house and the field whenever the harvest is here. The kids would help picking the veggies and fruits out then help momma canned the foods. Today we dont do that cuz all we do is work so everything had changed today.. its not like the past.. but few have a large family.. My great grandma had 13 kids.. my grandma had 8 kids, my mom had 6..

if they want a large family then kudos to them.. they are happy with their lives.. they are not drawing any financial support from the state- believe it or not... they have their own business selling homes and renting homes to people. also restored the vehicles then sell them.. so thats how they get the money for foods and things they need around the house. They buy clothes for the kids from good will stores.

Btw they dont have any debts AT ALL! ZIP!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DreamDeaf]

Well, I came from a family that used to have large families - my grandmother lost her mother and two sisters to the influenza in 1918, and she had problems with pregancies herself - Grandpa came from a very large family, and he was the only one with a small family, but it never bothered him - he loved his wife and two daughters. My stepfather's family - Grandpa was drafterd in World War II when his 2nd son was a baby, and he was gone for more than five years. He never got to have the large family he and Grandma wanted.

As for my mother, she divorced when I was a baby, and she did not have time for a relationship as she was a full-time college student and a full-time worker - I grew up with my grandparents on the farm. I had many cousins, and it was like growing up in a large, close-knit family.

Mom did not remarry until well into her 30's and both she and my stepdad decided not to have any children, due to their ages. Stepdad adopted me, and I grew up considering him as my real dad.

I also had many friends with large families (I live in a city with many Catholic churches), and they were all very loving - they grew up with responsibilities around the house and family members - and many of them are very successful - and remain in close touch with their brothers and sisters.

Ive asked them over the years, if they ever felt left, had too many responsibilties or felt this way or that way about their families, and guess what? None of them have any regrets growing up that way. Many of them have gone on to have large families themselves, and I've kept in touch - many of them are very, very happy.

I do know of some that are not exactly happy - but that's the way things go - it's what you make of it. If you feel that you are able to do a good job of rearing a large brood, then by all means, go for it. If you want just one or two, good for you.

It's your decision - your decision to have a large brood or a small family - it's how you raise your kids that counts. Are you able to give love, care and attention to your children? Are you able to teach your kids responsibility, manners, courtesy, and how to get along in the world? Are you able to support your children, no matter how many you have?

Look at me - I had one daughter - I came to admit that I knew I would not be able to take care of her the way she should be able to be taken care of, and I willingly gave her up for adoption. I knew she would be happier with a family that could take care of her, instead of a mother that could not take care of her, and a dad that would not be around for her. I did love my daughter enough to choose the family that would adopt her, and I have no regrets making that decision.

It doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not - it's YOUR ability to take care of your children, no matter how many you have, that does count.

If the Duggans feel that they can provide what the children need the most, love, care and responsibility, then kudos to them.

 

[Angel]

^ @ DreamDeaf!

 

[Reba]

Thoughts of a Regular Guy: More On The Duggar Family

I'm replying to the link, not to you.

... Ever time you see a brand name flash across the screen some company is getting free advertising and they gave up something, namely free products to get it. Why do you think they were shocked to see their new living room set, their new outdoor grill, their new GRAND PIANO...because it was all given to them!

I wonder if this same blogger complains about "Extreme Makeover Home Edition"?

 

[Rio]

Why? All their babies are wanted, and well cared for. You aren't paying their bills.

Exactly , no one here is paying their bills. I agree this family chose to have a big family and keep on loving their children. They are not doing anything harmful.

 

[jazzy]

They do forced abortions on late third trimester moms. That kills the babies. Also, their policy encourages parents who have a daughter as their only child, to kill or abandon the baby so they can be allowed a chance to have a son. That's killing babies.



Do you really trust the government with that decision? Do you really want them interfering in and controlling your life and family that way?

U don't get it, they are overpopulation and overcrowded. No more room for more kids to grow in their country and land. I don't blame the government trying to control population in their country. 1 plus billion people live there already. That is what I am trying to telling u, our country, the land woon will be full of people and no more room to grow foods to feed all those people. In state of Calif already expereince this problem, now they are trying to take land which belong to natives away so they can make more dam to have more water to give water to more people in state of Ca. I know u are against abortions because this is what Christians believe but u rather to see those unsaved sinners to be burned in hell than they never be born ( aborted) . That is what I am trying to telling u God will burn them in hell if they are not saved. So why bother to keep bring them into this world so they would be burned in hell forever after they died. 1 billion chineses are not christians, where will they go after they dies? burning in hell that is what alnost every Christian believe in this.


This family is selfish to bring more babies into this already overpopulation world with so many problems with resources. I do not appreciate them using God for wanting them to have more babies. That is lie. God gave us free will to do whatever we want so if we want to have 16 kids that is our choice and it does not mean God want us to have more kids.

 

[jazzy]

Well, I came from a family that used to have large families - my grandmother lost her mother and two sisters to the influenza in 1918, and she had problems with pregancies herself - Grandpa came from a very large family, and he was the only one with a small family, but it never bothered him - he loved his wife and two daughters. My stepfather's family - Grandpa was drafterd in World War II when his 2nd son was a baby, and he was gone for more than five years. He never got to have the large family he and Grandma wanted.

As for my mother, she divorced when I was a baby, and she did not have time for a relationship as she was a full-time college student and a full-time worker - I grew up with my grandparents on the farm. I had many cousins, and it was like growing up in a large, close-knit family.

Mom did not remarry until well into her 30's and both she and my stepdad decided not to have any children, due to their ages. Stepdad adopted me, and I grew up considering him as my real dad.

I also had many friends with large families (I live in a city with many Catholic churches), and they were all very loving - they grew up with responsibilities around the house and family members - and many of them are very successful - and remain in close touch with their brothers and sisters.

Ive asked them over the years, if they ever felt left, had too many responsibilties or felt this way or that way about their families, and guess what? None of them have any regrets growing up that way. Many of them have gone on to have large families themselves, and I've kept in touch - many of them are very, very happy.

I do know of some that are not exactly happy - but that's the way things go - it's what you make of it. If you feel that you are able to do a good job of rearing a large brood, then by all means, go for it. If you want just one or two, good for you.

It's your decision - your decision to have a large brood or a small family - it's how you raise your kids that counts. Are you able to give love, care and attention to your children? Are you able to teach your kids responsibility, manners, courtesy, and how to get along in the world? Are you able to support your children, no matter how many you have?

Look at me - I had one daughter - I came to admit that I knew I would not be able to take care of her the way she should be able to be taken care of, and I willingly gave her up for adoption. I knew she would be happier with a family that could take care of her, instead of a mother that could not take care of her, and a dad that would not be around for her. I did love my daughter enough to choose the family that would adopt her, and I have no regrets making that decision.

It doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not - it's YOUR ability to take care of your children, no matter how many you have, that does count.

If the Duggans feel that they can provide what the children need the most, love, care and responsibility, then kudos to them.

Ur brave for giving your daughter up for adoption. My father was 9th child and he was given up for adopted because his biology mother could not afford to raise him. My neice adopted two girls from Russia two years ago and I fell in love with them. And my brother in law and his wife adopted a boy, his parents already had 4 kids and could not afford to raise 5 kids.

I came from large family and I do know what it is alike. They are idiots for keeping have more babies. That is my IHMO. They did not tell u whole truth about having a large family.

 

[LakeTahoe]

AMEN to DD!!

I do agreed with you.

I was adopted also. My real dad's oldest brother have 6 kids and too many grand kids I cannot count! LOL!

My best friend's hubby's parent had 13 kids (one died) and have 24 grand kids and one is on the way. It is their decision to have that many kids. I don't think they used Government to get support. They did them selves.

So it is every one's decision to have a large family or small family.

As for me I wanted up to 4 kids but realized that the cost of living is insane so just 2 are enough.

I knew that Dugger family will have a new additional brother or sister which it didn't surprised me. As long as what God gives.

Well, I came from a family that used to have large families - my grandmother lost her mother and two sisters to the influenza in 1918, and she had problems with pregancies herself - Grandpa came from a very large family, and he was the only one with a small family, but it never bothered him - he loved his wife and two daughters. My stepfather's family - Grandpa was drafterd in World War II when his 2nd son was a baby, and he was gone for more than five years. He never got to have the large family he and Grandma wanted.

As for my mother, she divorced when I was a baby, and she did not have time for a relationship as she was a full-time college student and a full-time worker - I grew up with my grandparents on the farm. I had many cousins, and it was like growing up in a large, close-knit family.

Mom did not remarry until well into her 30's and both she and my stepdad decided not to have any children, due to their ages. Stepdad adopted me, and I grew up considering him as my real dad.

I also had many friends with large families (I live in a city with many Catholic churches), and they were all very loving - they grew up with responsibilities around the house and family members - and many of them are very successful - and remain in close touch with their brothers and sisters.

Ive asked them over the years, if they ever felt left, had too many responsibilties or felt this way or that way about their families, and guess what? None of them have any regrets growing up that way. Many of them have gone on to have large families themselves, and I've kept in touch - many of them are very, very happy.

I do know of some that are not exactly happy - but that's the way things go - it's what you make of it. If you feel that you are able to do a good job of rearing a large brood, then by all means, go for it. If you want just one or two, good for you.

It's your decision - your decision to have a large brood or a small family - it's how you raise your kids that counts. Are you able to give love, care and attention to your children? Are you able to teach your kids responsibility, manners, courtesy, and how to get along in the world? Are you able to support your children, no matter how many you have?

Look at me - I had one daughter - I came to admit that I knew I would not be able to take care of her the way she should be able to be taken care of, and I willingly gave her up for adoption. I knew she would be happier with a family that could take care of her, instead of a mother that could not take care of her, and a dad that would not be around for her. I did love my daughter enough to choose the family that would adopt her, and I have no regrets making that decision.

It doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not - it's YOUR ability to take care of your children, no matter how many you have, that does count.

If the Duggans feel that they can provide what the children need the most, love, care and responsibility, then kudos to them.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

U don't get it, they are overpopulation and overcrowded. No more room for more kids to grow in their country and land. I don't blame the government trying to control population in their country. 1 plus billion people live there already. That is what I am trying to telling u, our country, the land woon will be full of people and no more room to grow foods to feed all those people. In state of Calif already expereince this problem, now they are trying to take land which belong to natives away so they can make more dam to have more water to give water to more people in state of Ca. I know u are against abortions because this is what Christians believe but u rather to see those unsaved sinners to be burned in hell than they never be born ( aborted) . That is what I am trying to telling u God will burn them in hell if they are not saved. So why bother to keep bring them into this world so they would be burned in hell forever after they died. 1 billion chineses are not christians, where will they go after they dies? burning in hell that is what alnost every Christian believe in this.

Reba, see this link
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China warns of population growth

This family is selfish to bring more babies into this already overpopulation world with so many problems with resources. I do not appreciate them using God for wanting them to have more babies. That is lie. God gave us free will to do whatever we want so if we want to have 16 kids that is our choice and it does not mean God want us to have more kids.

I am with you on this. I know that God didn't forbid sex protection and even didn't say anything that we should have a lot of kids but it's us who choose to have kids or not, not God. I noticed that people use God as an excuse.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I came from large family and I do know what it is alike. They are idiots for keeping have more babies. That is my IHMO. They did not tell u whole truth about having a large family.

I am not surprised after read your posts because you said the same thing what my friends (my hubby's school friends) says. It's long story to type here so I gave you one example but it's true story what I know from my friend's childhood experience.

Example: a mother cooked the dinner for 10 children and gave them small meal and look at a father who have a big meal than all of them. Some of 10 children told mother that they want to have big meal like their Daddy. Daddy is angry and told them that he work hard to earn for foods and support to take care of them... then he has the right to have a big meal to deserve his work hard. Some children are angry and told him that they also work hard for him at farm etc as well... and ... mother tried to explain that they have little money to acheive the foods and clothes... Some children told her to use birth control pill, condom... It make everything blow up... Its hard to beleive that a big family are happy one... They struggle real alot... but I agree that it could be rare that there are large and happy family only if they have money to acheive Nannies or relatives for support...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It's your decision - your decision to have a large brood or a small family - it's how you raise your kids that counts. Are you able to give love, care and attention to your children? Are you able to teach your kids responsibility, manners, courtesy, and how to get along in the world? Are you able to support your children, no matter how many you have?

It's parents' job to parent their children, not give their children to parent their siblings. If the parents want to have many children then is their responsiblity as parents and leave their children alone to enjoy their childhood.

Look at me - I had one daughter - I came to admit that I knew I would not be able to take care of her the way she should be able to be taken care of, and I willingly gave her up for adoption. I knew she would be happier with a family that could take care of her, instead of a mother that could not take care of her, and a dad that would not be around for her. I did love my daughter enough to choose the family that would adopt her, and I have no regrets making that decision.

First of all, I admire that you doing thing right when you are sure that you are not right mother to your daughter and want her to have a good home with good parents who care of her which she deserve it. I would do the same as you instead of abort my child if I know for the sure that I am not ready or fit to be mother to my child. I know I will make a child unhappy when I am force to keep a child instead of give a child up to an adoption.

It doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not - it's YOUR ability to take care of your children, no matter how many you have, that does count.

Yes, that's right as long as the parents take responsiblity to raise their children, not give their children to raise their siblings.

If the Duggans feel that they can provide what the children need the most, love, care and responsibility, then kudos to them.

I will Duggars if they get someone to support them to take care of their children instead of give their children to raise their siblings. To me, Duggars don't parent their children but their children. If I want to have children then is my and my hubby alone responsibity, not give my babies to my children to raise for us.

All what I hope for Michelle's safe and health pregnancy.

 

[Cheri]

Good posting DreamDeaf.