Baby born deaf will get 'bionic ears' that could help him hear and talk

Babyblue said:
The specific stage I am talking about is the psychosocial stage.. the social emotional stage, The stage that you stated are damaged due to a child due to deafness because they are left behind from their peers. That is how I am interpreting what you are saying. You stated a CI or a device will not help them with that... I think it will.
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It has. I've personally seen it. It was simply amazing on how they interacted with their hearing (and deaf) peers in a variety of social settings. The difference was that the people I saw were implanted very, very early. Certainly, adjustments were made but in no way are they seen as "damaged goods."
 
kokonut said:
It has. I've personally seen it. It was simply amazing on how they interacted with their hearing (and deaf) peers in a variety of social settings. The difference was that the people I saw were implanted very, very early. Certainly, adjustments were made but in no way are they seen as "damaged goods."
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Horrible for anyone to view a child as damaged goods.
 
Still seeing numerous of children with CIs who are still getting referred to our program after falling behind their peers in the mainstreamed setting. That is why I am not fond of mainstreaming without any visual support.
 
Beach girl said:
Which is not at all what's going to happen to Callum, according to his mum's description of her plans, so what's your beef?
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Where did you purchase that crystal ball of yours?

Even with all of his mum's "plans", she is leaving out consideration of the very things that create the problems for deaf kids.
 
kokonut said:
It has. I've personally seen it. It was simply amazing on how they interacted with their hearing (and deaf) peers in a variety of social settings. The difference was that the people I saw were implanted very, very early. Certainly, adjustments were made but in no way are they seen as "damaged goods."
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You are confused about the topic of psychosocial development as well. As usual.

Who has used the words "damaged goods" but you? Says a lot about your perspective.
 
What do you think she's leaving out? She specifically mentioned having appropriate teachers of the deaf, having deaf children among his social group, having all sorts of support.

Where did you purchase YOUR crystal ball that seems to have the gloom and doom version installed?
 
Babyblue said:
Horrible for anyone to view a child as damaged goods.
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Yes, quite sad to see that, and I've witnessed how some people see them as just that only because they have CIs. Note I said in quotes, "damaged goods" and that is because of the lack of a better word in what I was trying to express.
 
Beach girl said:
What do you think she's leaving out? She specifically mentioned having appropriate teachers of the deaf, having deaf children among his social group, having all sorts of support.

Where did you purchase YOUR crystal ball that seems to have the gloom and doom version installed?
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That's her nature.

*shrugs*

Such a negative outlook. Always gloomy.
 
shel90 said:
Still seeing numerous of children with CIs who are still getting referred to our program after falling behind their peers in the mainstreamed setting. That is why I am not fond of mainstreaming without any visual support.
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I am curious as to why some children with CIs who are doing great while other children with CIs are struggling. Does it have something with how their intelligences result?
 
shel90 said:
Still seeing numerous of children with CIs who are still getting referred to our program after falling behind their peers in the mainstreamed setting. That is why I am not fond of mainstreaming without any visual support.
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I agree they still need visual support.
 
Beach girl said:
What do you think she's leaving out? She specifically mentioned having appropriate teachers of the deaf, having deaf children among his social group, having all sorts of support.

Where did you purchase YOUR crystal ball that seems to have the gloom and doom version installed?
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Were you a deaf child?
 
Beach girl said:
What do you think she's leaving out? She specifically mentioned having appropriate teachers of the deaf, having deaf children among his social group, having all sorts of support.

Where did you purchase YOUR crystal ball that seems to have the gloom and doom version installed?
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I don't use a crystal ball. I use research, I use evidence arrived at in assisting children who have been implanted and placed in an oral environment deal with their psychosocial adjustment issues, evidence obtained from mental health experts who have worked with the D/deaf for many,many years, knowledge of psychosocial development and the ways in which it occurs and how deafness impacts that progression, etc. etc. etc. In other words, I use knowledge and fact, you use emotion and a need to project your issues onto a a topic where they don't apply.
 
jillio said:
That is because you are late deafened. You have no experience with the psychosocial effects of deafness in a developing child.
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So what would your solution be then jillio to resolve all the psychosocial effects of children born deaf?

90% of deaf babies are born to hearing parents. These parents need confidence to raise their children, not being told that we're going to screw them up, unless we make decisions that fit in with your way of seeing things. No matter what anyone says on here it seems that you can only see your point of view, even when someone who is deaf is telling you they don't agree with you.

You seem to be saying that if I give my child CI's and put him in a mainstream school, no matter what other support there is, the likelihood is he's going to resent me for it, not do well educationally and have psychological issues growing up. I really hope that you don't work with other parents like me, as this attitude is no help at all.
 
Babyblue said:
I agree they still need visual support.
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That is the whole point. And not just visual support for communication, but the need for belonging that comes from interaction with others "just like them."
 
kokonut said:
Yes, really. I believe there are those who have done really well. Do you?
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Not what I was saying. You missed my point. You say Jillio is so negative...ok if she is so negative then what's so positive about your thread about disadvantages of being deaf? Isnt that on a negative note?

If you are going to criticize someone for being negative, then maybe you should practice what you preach. Just sayin'
 
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