Arizona governor signs immigration bill

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We fight to keep aliens out, but have nothing but excuses for all the tech jobs that leave. If all these higher paying jobs had stayed, there might be less complaint about "Juan" doing landscaping jobs.

Do anyone need to hire Juancho for some cherry-picking?

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Just like going to any other country, documentation is required. No different here except ya'll makin' a lot noise n' and hollerin' stuff.
 
Just like going to any other country, documentation is required. No different here except ya'll makin' a lot noise n' and hollerin' stuff.

so you're telling me these countries stop people to check for their immigration status like what Arizona wants to do?
 
Just like going to any other country, documentation is required. No different here except ya'll makin' a lot noise n' and hollerin' stuff.

You're also forgetting most other countries are largely homogeneous or have less than stellar human rights records.
 
I'm wondering how many Caucasian people (non-American & illegal) will the police officers stop to verify for their immigration status :hmm:

Anyone who speaks Spanish. I was detained for hours once by the border patrol -- All the way up near Salinas California mind you, because they caught me speaking Spanish to my friends. They looked at my driver's license and kept calling me "Pancho."


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America, instead of harassing people... why not fix the root causes?

Because root causes is ancient history... What fun is that?

It's illegal (non-citizens) to be in Mexico without proper documentation and Arizona can't request that??

I never had a problem. Nobody ever bothered to ask me for papers.

Just like going to any other country, documentation is required. No different here except ya'll makin' a lot noise n' and hollerin' stuff.

Been to Canada too, nobody there ever asked for papers there either.
 
You're also forgetting most other countries are largely homogeneous or have less than stellar human rights records.

A bit of red herring there. This is about documentation and the requirement thereof and more importantly allow police the legal means to check up on a person's status (e.g. immigration status). It's no different than going into Mexico where you are required to have documentation.
 
Anyone who speaks Spanish. I was detained for hours once by the border patrol -- All the way up near Salinas California mind you, because they caught me speaking Spanish to my friends. They looked at my driver's license and kept calling me "Pancho."

Because root causes is ancient history... What fun is that?

I never had a problem. Nobody ever bothered to ask me for papers.

Been to Canada too, nobody there ever asked for papers there either.

Though documentations are required. There is no getting around that.
 
so you're telling me these countries stop people to check for their immigration status like what Arizona wants to do?
Hey, for me, no worries! I am white as the snowcaps of Colorado. They will racially profile me by waving me past the checkpoint with an apology for slowing traffic. :wave:
 
Though documentations are required. There is no getting around that.

And it is required here also.

So are we discussing the requirement, the enforcement, who it will effect, how much it will cost in dollars, and what will the toll be in good will.
 
we're not in Mexico. this is a country where a law-abiding, free man of any race can walk around without being stopped by cop (racial-profiling) to prove his immigration status.

Actually it is pretty much like that in Mexico.

By the way you can find native born Mexicans of every hue and color. Including the descendants of Irish and Chinese rail road builders.
 
And it is required here also.

So are we discussing the requirement, the enforcement, who it will effect, how much it will cost in dollars, and what will the toll be in good will.

Arizona is doing the job the feds refuse to do by taking the law and our borders seriously to protect the health, safety, and welfare of our citizens first. I've no objection to that.
 
Arizona is doing the job the feds refuse to do by taking the law and our borders seriously to protect the health, safety, and welfare of our citizens first. I've no objection to that.


Sorry but I find it difficult to believe that Mexico or Mexicans in general are this big huge threat people seem to think they are. Perhaps it is because I have had so many friends among them over the years.

Perhaps I'm just not paranoid enough for my own good and that of my country.
 
Is it no wonder that Mexico won't complain seeing that U.S. Dollars come back to them from the U.S. via illegal aliens? Why would Mexico want to jeopardize that? Of course, they're going to complain. Though, let's keep quite about Mexico's own border problem on their southern end. Mustn't show the hypocrisy when it comes to border control enforcement and all that. Mustn't round them up and deport them back to where they came from?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/world/americas/18mexico.html
Center for Immigration Studies
Mexico's Other Border - National Geographic Magazine
 
Sorry but I find it difficult to believe that Mexico or Mexicans in general are this big huge threat people seem to think they are. Perhaps it is because I have had so many friends among them over the years.

Perhaps I'm just not paranoid enough for my own good and that of my country.

Might want to ask that same question to Mexico's own illegal immigration problem through their own southern borders.
 
I remember that CA passed a proposition similiar to the bill and the court voided it. That was in 1994 or earlier.
 
Is it no wonder that Mexico won't complain seeing that U.S. Dollars come back to them from the U.S. via illegal aliens? Why would Mexico want to jeopardize that? Of course, they're going to complain. Though, let's keep quite about Mexico's own border problem on their southern end. Mustn't show the hypocrisy when it comes to border control enforcement and all that. Mustn't round them up and deport them back to where they came from?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/world/americas/18mexico.html
Center for Immigration Studies
Mexico's Other Border - National Geographic Magazine



Now that is hilarious.

People will be people and do what they hope will help them survive.
 
Might want to ask that same question to Mexico's own illegal immigration problem through their own southern borders.

I'm not certain what kind of a problem it is. Political, emotional, economic, etc.

I don't think how our country solves its problems should be influenced by how other countries handle their problems. It would be wise to examine the merits of other countries methods of solving problems, but just because they do or do not do something is not a valid reason for us to emulate them.

As Jiro says, "There are other ways."
 
A bit of red herring there. This is about documentation and the requirement thereof and more importantly allow police the legal means to check up on a person's status (e.g. immigration status). It's no different than going into Mexico where you are required to have documentation.

um.... this is not about showing your passport to cross the border. This is about checking random people on the street for their immigration status.
 
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